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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:28 am

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VC 1.3
TheFuzzylogic99 (2)- Nero Cain, The thenewearth
brassherald (2)- The Powerpuff Girls, Momrangal
thenewearth (2)- Hopkirk, Kop
Nero Cain (1)- TheFuzzylogic99
havingfitz (1)- Kokichi Oma

Not voting (5)- Dunnstral, yurkin, Chickadee, havingfitz, brassherald

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:46 am

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I thought I pulled back my vote for TFL, but for good measure.

VOTE: chickadee
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:56 am

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In post 151, brassherald wrote:I thought I pulled back my vote for TFL, but for good measure.

VOTE: chickadee
I don't know what you're talking about. :shifty:
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:58 am

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In post 152, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 151, brassherald wrote:I thought I pulled back my vote for TFL, but for good measure.

VOTE: chickadee
I don't know what you're talking about. :shifty:
Well then, pretend I never mentioned it. I must have been dreaming
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:14 am

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In post 125, Hopkirk wrote:At least some nice feelings: Brass, Fitz, TPG, Fuzzy, Nero

We should talk: Dunn, Kop, Mom

At least some nasty feelings: Yurin, TNE, Chickadee, Kokichi

UNVOTE: Whoever
VOTE: TNE
You should explain these
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:52 am

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In post 135, Momrangal wrote: Besides he's funny and the game can use humor.
Why is being funny a reason he should live? Not that town can't be funny but I think alot of scum use humor b/c likeability=less chance of getting lynched.
Where else do you want to venture?
idk. I'm kinda tunneling TFL and I'm not a fan of you or KOP blanket discrediting a TFL wagon but I know that disagree=//=dcum so IDK but no one else seems real scummy to me.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:09 am

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In post 141, havingfitz wrote:
In post 72, havingfitz wrote:
In post 51, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 34, havingfitz wrote:
In post 22, Hopkirk wrote:@Havingfitz: I agree with Dunn. Fuzzy should be the nightkill here. He's the only one we know for sure is watching for scumslips.
Why are you telling me this?

Are you're saying you're scum with Dunnstral? Since he hadn't posted yet in this game. You have a PT with him?

VOTE: Hopkirk
Overly defensive.

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What am I being defensive of?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:28 am

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In post 154, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 125, Hopkirk wrote:At least some nice feelings: Brass, Fitz, TPG, Fuzzy, Nero

We should talk: Dunn, Kop, Mom

At least some nasty feelings: Yurin, TNE, Chickadee, Kokichi

UNVOTE: Whoever
VOTE: TNE
You should explain these
Which ones don't you feel I've explained- other than you?
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:33 am

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When I have 45 posts, It feels odd you're asking me to explain all of those reads while not asking anything about/to anyone else at the same time.
Combined with asking in general rather than specifics feels like you're primarily interested in my choice to put you in the nasty pile.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:35 am

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In post 155, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 135, Momrangal wrote: Besides he's funny and the game can use humor.
Why is being funny a reason he should live? Not that town can't be funny but I think alot of scum use humor b/c likeability=less chance of getting lynched.
Where else do you want to venture?
idk. I'm kinda tunneling TFL and I'm not a fan of you or KOP blanket discrediting a TFL wagon but I know that disagree=//=dcum so IDK but no one else seems real scummy to me.
Do you have any townreads, or is everyone except Fuzzy neutralish?
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:44 am

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In post 159, Hopkirk wrote:everyone except Fuzzy neutralish
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 146, Hopkirk wrote:Momtangal was in one of my first two games on mafiascum.

@Chickadee: I did, but it's 1/2 I didn't like. Plus, kind of related to 3, saying you disliked my 'push' on TPG felt like a way to buddy with the hydra.

@Mom: What about 128/9 from TNE?
I’m kind of feeling like we’re not reading the same things?

Point #2 was straight up false and I proved it with a quote.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:07 am

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In post 161, Chickadee wrote:
In post 146, Hopkirk wrote:Momtangal was in one of my first two games on mafiascum.

@Chickadee: I did, but it's 1/2 I didn't like. Plus, kind of related to 3, saying you disliked my 'push' on TPG felt like a way to buddy with the hydra.

@Mom: What about 128/9 from TNE?
I’m kind of feeling like we’re not reading the same things?

Point #2 was straight up false and I proved it with a quote.
You say all the votes on the TFL wagon are bad but you don't say how
instead you justify it with a weak TR.
That's the part of 2 that I didn't like.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:27 pm

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I haven’t said anyone was a weak town read though.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:36 pm

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Yeah, that's why I didn't put that half in italics. It's the first half I'm talking about.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:15 pm

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It felt like people found an easy push and just found a multitude of reasons to jump on. Brass's vote was by far the worst I think though.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:11 pm

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I'm totaly gonna catch up tonight!
in a 10hours or so after work
>.>' vote me if I don't!!
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:14 pm

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In post 156, havingfitz wrote:
In post 141, havingfitz wrote:
In post 72, havingfitz wrote:
In post 51, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 34, havingfitz wrote:
In post 22, Hopkirk wrote:@Havingfitz: I agree with Dunn. Fuzzy should be the nightkill here. He's the only one we know for sure is watching for scumslips.
Why are you telling me this?

Are you're saying you're scum with Dunnstral? Since he hadn't posted yet in this game. You have a PT with him?

VOTE: Hopkirk
Overly defensive.

VOTE: Fitz
What am I being defensive of?
VOTE: Kokichi Oma
Seems like a weird post for you to react like that. It was very clearly a joke and you didn't take it as one, like you were nervous to be linked to him or anyone.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:15 pm

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In post 158, Hopkirk wrote:When I have 45 posts, It feels odd you're asking me to explain all of those reads while not asking anything about/to anyone else at the same time.
Combined with asking in general rather than specifics feels like you're primarily interested in my choice to put you in the nasty pile.
Well, it's a bit weird for you to have those ind of reads like 5 pages in, when most of the posts have been joking, including yourself.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:15 pm

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In post 122, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 111, The Powerpuff Girls wrote:
In post 64, Hopkirk wrote:@TPG-Key: A four-person scum hydra has incentive to coordinate before posting. Based on experience, your town hydra partners posted a lot more while in hydras. I just finished a game where RC/North were a town hydra, and Cheeky was in a town hydra (and it read like Cheeky barely had a hydra QT). Despite RC/North dying n1, the two hydras accounted for over 50% of the posts in a 9 player game. Therefore, not posting much initially is definitely odd in comparison.
Hopkirk this is dumb. I've only just noticed the game started. Also, we're town so.

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What makes it dumb? It's a talking point based on an observation of difference.

Side point- how many people are in your hydra, I've seen 6 names so far.
It's not very alignment indicative, this was said in and . To your side point -
we're just using flavour names based on the hydra (Professor, Bubbles, Buttercup, Blossom) for fun.

In post 147, brassherald wrote:I'm going to start off with Powerpuff Girls in my little catch up post. I am not positive how a hydra works, and am just super confused by the whole slot there, so I don't know how to read it.

Hopkirk strikes me as town, he's been active, he's been helpful, seems to be taking the lead on early scum hunting.

I think Chickadee seems off as well, and agree with even if I don't understand how hydras work and am super hoping someone just explains it to me.

I do not like TFL's self vote at the beginning of the game as a joke, or his really early defensiveness, but there are too many people who have not yet voted to go on any one person as a group yet.

I don't think anyone else has posted more than 5 times yet. But, of them, I townlean Nero, and scumlean TNE but I've read TNE's games and played with her once, I think she just naturally pings me as scummy no matter her alignment.

Anyway, I would like a vote count before I make any new votes.
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This entire post is very vague. You're averse to wagons too early? Also I'd like to hear what in particular you liked about , and why you have those reads on Nero and thenewearth.


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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:52 pm

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Nothing actually happened while I was gone

VOTE: Hop

Seems like a better vote right now
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:57 pm

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now I know it might seem like OMGUS

But its only 15% OMGUS so its on the threshold
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:01 pm

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In post 170, thenewearth wrote:Nothing actually happened while I was gone

VOTE: Hop

Seems like a better vote right now
In post 171, thenewearth wrote:now I know it might seem like OMGUS

But its only 15% OMGUS so its on the threshold
Hopkirk is town.

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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:14 am

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In post 165, Chickadee wrote:It felt like people found an easy push and just found a multitude of reasons to jump on. Brass's vote was by far the worst I think though.
Can you go through why specifically you disliked the other 3 votes then (excluding me/Brass). I don't get an impression you're following up on them.
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In post 158, Hopkirk wrote:When I have 45 posts, It feels odd you're asking me to explain all of those reads while not asking anything about/to anyone else at the same time.
Combined with asking in general rather than specifics feels like you're primarily interested in my choice to put you in the nasty pile.
Well, it's a bit weird for you to have those ind of reads like 5 pages in, when most of the posts have been joking, including yourself.
What kinds of reads exactly? The catagories I used weren't hard town/hard scum. Most of them were impressions.
Most of my posts aren't joking. There's been a fair amount of content/interactions going on and I don't really like dismissing them as irrelevant.
In post 170, thenewearth wrote:Nothing actually happened while I was gone

VOTE: Hop

Seems like a better vote right now
In post 171, thenewearth wrote:now I know it might seem like OMGUS

But its only 15% OMGUS so its on the threshold
My rule is that until you justify it, it's 100% omgus.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:19 am

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@Chickadee: Expanding on the above, the votes on TFL were (Nero, TPG, TNE, Brass, Hop). You seemed ok with TPG’s vote, later said mine was fine, and haven’t commented on Nero/TNE or followed up on them afterwards. It feels like you’re saying the entire wagon is bad, but only following up on Brass- while not looking at (or in two cases, not even mentioning) the rest of the wagon.
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