Mini 2017: Encore Mafia - Now Without Cults [Endgame]

[Kokichi Oma]

When did I say scumslip? It sounded like you were making it up, but now I understand you just mean dangan ronpa

[mastina]

I think you're wrong to have liked her. Believe it or not I actually am quite familiar with Awoo and I can tell you with 80% confidence she's scum here.

Color me intrigued. On what grounds?

On the grounds that I have personally

read

most of Awoo's games (about half, the entirety of; the other half, a few key points of), and I am that exact percentage sure that this is how Awoo enters the game as scum.

Awoo is not mislynch bait; Awoo is just scum.

[mastina]

implosion: agree with mastina that this guy is the highest town. However, experience suggests that he has a wide range of scum ability, from transparent to very solid.

This would be my experience as well--he's not outside of his scumrange altogether, but what he has given feels quite solidly not what I would even remotely expect to be his approach if he were actually scum.

Pine: I wonder if mastina is seeing the same thing that I'm seeing here, to put Pine so high off of just a couple posts -- I'd expect him to have big scum shoes to fill, and perhaps he'd be a little more involved here.

Not quite, actually. You're on the right track, in that it has to do with what Pine's doing versus what he's not doing, but Pine as scum does have some obvious signs that here are absent; his approach this game is precisely what I'd expect from him as town.

hmm
Actually you can be town for now

More or less my thoughts. Every time I see Errant post, it makes me think town, though this is with the caveat that I don't really have a good baseline for what from him is scum.

I am also intrigued, because I feel you're the type to if you actually believed you had a meta read to just state that as first.

I am intrigued, because you have enough experience with me to know that I deliberately avoid giving immediate reasoning behind my initial reads to gather reactions, and only after people have reacted to my reads do I give them the explanations. (And even then, often skipping the reasoning a fair amount.)

Yeah Kokichi is coming off as scum here.

That's because he is.

[mastina]

Mylo gave me the same newbie vibes as Awoo did, but I'm more cautious of him.

I got the same vibes from them as well!

I got the impression they were both scum and had no idea what to do in this playerlist filled to the brim with big names widely known/respected players that all randed town!

[mastina]

VOTE: Mastina
I Really feel like wagoning this slot

I really feel like you're being dumb. (Especially since you're one of the few players in this playerlist to have a chance to know what role I possess off of my stance that this is a role which

should

be breadcrumbed. I breadcrumb ALL roles I have--even THIS one. Because no role, not even THIS one, should remain uncrumbed.)

[mastina]

VOTE: mutantdevele im watching you, pine.

See this?

This is scum, blatantly hopping onto a wagon initiated by town, most likely ON town.

The proof?

Awoo votes mutant, while pointing suspicion onto Pine...the player who singlehandedly initiated the wagon in the first place.

[mastina]

Is mutant different as town? I dont have experience there

I have enough to say this is, with around 60-75% certainty, mutant as town. mutant as scum sticks out like a sore thumb; mutant as town in my experience with him is pretty much what I'm seeing this game. This comes with the caveat that I've seen him in like a total of four or so games so my experience with him is limited, but I still think what I am seeing is far, FAR more likely to be town than not.

Mara should be able to back me up to some extent; she saw what mutant as scum was like in the worst game ever run rather intimately (being exposed to his inner process of workings as his partner), and it was nothing like what he's like in this game.

[Pine]

Yay! MastinaTown!

Please don't implode, okay?

VOTE: Awoo

[implosion]

VOTE: Mastina
I Really feel like wagoning this slot

I really feel like you're being dumb. (Especially since you're one of the few players in this playerlist to have a chance to know what role I possess off of my stance that this is a role which

should

be breadcrumbed. I breadcrumb ALL roles I have--even THIS one. Because no role, not even THIS one, should remain uncrumbed.)

Idk why you're so deeply interested in discussing your role after you've already breadcrumbed it. Like, spouting bullshit softclaims to try to throw off scum is not good town play in this game.

I'm not really sure how to read mastina in general; my only even-slightly-recent meta knowledge of her is from turn of camn and we were both scum and it was not the kind of thing that can be meaningfully extrapolated. Not really interested in pushing her right now though. I might be willing to join the Awoo wagon.

[mastina]

Idk why you're so deeply interested in discussing your role after you've already breadcrumbed it. Like, spouting bullshit softclaims to try to throw off scum is not good town play in this game.

It actually is good townplay, so I'll continue doing it as much as I want.

[BNL]

Not really seeing the Pine wagon.
Mastina what do you think of Pine?

[Espeonage]

I can post properly this evening.

[Pine]

*shrug* Wagon on me is a pressure tactic. I'm hard to pressure, though, so it's pretty useless. It amounts to a distraction at best, an excuse for vote-parking at worst.

[Kokichi Oma]

So, how do you feel about voting Awoo?

[Pine]

Yay! MastinaTown!

Please don't implode, okay?

VOTE: Awoo

[Kokichi Oma]

I missed that

[Wisdom]

VOTE: awoo

[implosion]

VOTE: Awoo

(L-2)

[implosion]

That said, devle, I want to echo BNL's point - you're acting like we're supposed to be reading you as town here, while simultaneously explaining that you aren't doing any scumhunting. Why exactly are we supposed to think you're town here? And why haven't you done any scumhunting? I'm willing to buy that there's a level of scumminess that you're going to show regardless of alignment, but... you're acting like you showing that scumminess and people seeing it is a reason for people to think that you're town, which is patently absurd.

[implosion]

List of people that I'm willing to call some degree of town so far: BNL, EP, mastina, Kokichi, Wisdom, Pine, mutantdevle, vaguely in that order. This list is easily mostly garbage right now though since I haven't audited it yet.

Nonetheless, leaves Awoo, espe, myloninja, Maragnal, and srceenplay. Doesn't feel great that this list is by and large lurkers but that's basically a good excuse to not audit the list of townreads yet so~

[BNL]

Implosion so how did you get mutantdevle town?

[Espeonage]

Ok I said I'd post, but I also found out my six years of uni are useless so I was focused on that. I'll take a look tomorrow if I get a chance, and I should be able to be active all weekend.

[BNL]

I think with mastina talking about her role so much, I think it’s best to leave sorting her to another Day.

Pedit: good luck on your whatever!

[Ms Marangal]

I think you're wrong to have liked her. Believe it or not I actually am quite familiar with Awoo and I can tell you with 80% confidence she's scum here.

Color me intrigued. On what grounds?

On the grounds that I have personally

read

most of Awoo's games (about half, the entirety of; the other half, a few key points of), and I am that exact percentage sure that this is how Awoo enters the game as scum.

Awoo is not mislynch bait; Awoo is just scum.

I don't think Awoo is mislynch bait, and I see Awoo much like how I was when I joined ms. I also think this is a little strong for not actually having experience with him

VOTE: Mastina
I Really feel like wagoning this slot

I really feel like you're being dumb. (Especially since you're one of the few players in this playerlist to have a chance to know what role I possess off of my stance that this is a role which

should

be breadcrumbed. I breadcrumb ALL roles I have--even THIS one. Because no role, not even THIS one, should remain uncrumbed.)

The only role that popped into my head was unlisted by you and I don't think our last game finished by the start of this so it wouldn't count. That leaves me a bit confused, but I guess I could leave you until tomorrow.

[Ms Marangal]

As far as Mutant goes, this doesn't feel much like how he played in worst game ever, but I am not sure that's such a great baseline because of what it invited also we were all kinda discombobulated d1 until we found each other . I'm also limited in my knowledge of his towngame (read none). That being said, I'm not sure this is out of his realm of scum play. Iirc in our chat, when we chatted, and found the chat he was active and showed some ability to effectively think ahead and plot. I don't remember him playing dumb in the game, and if anything I think he tried to make himself look good