Mini Theme 2022: Trapped! [Gameover]

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:48 am

Pretty sure I'm lynching Enigma regardless of result

Enigma · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:03 am

mutantdevle · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:21 pm

In post 1244, Pine wrote:Mmkay.

I’m not waiting for NSG. She’s been mostly absent and has had time to respond.

Going with 2. It hasn’t shown up yet, and while that is a shit reason for guessing it, there aren’t any good reasons.

Choose: 2

I’m voting Enigma, fyi

PE: My new phone makes unnecessary word-completion guesses all the time. I usually catch them (two in this post alone), but I must have missed that one. Your penchant for latching onto tiny things and making them into conspiracies is weird.

"Unfortunates, you have failed.

Miserably!"

"Looks like theys got another

bad

number..."

"You must now vote for who you think the saboteur was, and why?"

mutantdevle · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:27 pm

The voting phase has begun. You have (expired on 2018-08-19 00:00:00) to answer both of the following questions:

You must now vote for who you think is a saboteur and why?

How would you feel about being trapped?

mutantdevle · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:39 am

Prods have been issued to those who have failed to respond to the questions.

northsidegal is being replaced.

mutantdevle · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:59 am

FA_Q2 replaces northsidegal.

mutantdevle · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:51 am

"You must now vote for who you think is a sabotuer, and why?

Pine, who do you think is a saboteur?"

"I think Enigma is our best bet for saboteur. I still really want to vote GL, or perhaps Kokichi, but Enigma is pinging me hard right and there's momentum to prosecute now. Bird in the hand versus two in the bush, I suppose.

I feel I've made my case on Enigma, but in summary, it's a lot of odd behavior that rings alarm bells on a gut level. Some of it's hard to quantify, like attitude and lack of motivation to get stuff done, but the really damning thing in my opinion is Enigma's total lack of hard positions. Practically everything has been qualified or retractable, as if they're choosing their words very carefully so as not to perturb anyone. Town oughtn't be concerned with that, they ought be concerned with detection and prosecution of their reads."

"Chickadee?"

"Orfzh because I don't want to vote elsewhere in the lynch pool. Obviously I will not be voting myself. And I feel like Enigma has some interesting interactions going, and I would like to see some of that pan out more.

"Myloninja13?"

"I'll vote alongside my townreads once more by voting Enigma."

"Kokichi Oma?"

"I am voting for Enigma. I think I made it clear why earlier, but I think his posting style and his way of lurking indicates he is scum."

"Prof Fridays?"

"I

will

vote for ofhrz, as I think he's most probably scum, though I would expect if ofhrz is scum that he and his scum-buddies might team up on Enigma to ensure he's lynched instead. We shall see, though."

"ofrhz?"

"i'm voting chickadee

because

prof fridays is my first choice, but I don't think there's a whole lot of people who will vote for him."

"FA_Q2?"

"

I'm voting for

Chickadee

because

Chick has not made a single post that was substantive until they were under the chopping block and even then has simply refused to actually take a stance on anyone. Early they tried to cozy up to irrelephant and that still does not sit well with me. 751 was almost to scummy to be scum (calling to essentially PL and never trying to hunt). It would also lead straight to enigma if he flips scum. Irrelepahant also laid a good case out (and mentions 751 as well). "

"GuiltyLion?"

"I am voting for ofrhz

because

I think the entirety of their D2 has been focused on pushing Prof Fridays and asking 'why me' questions towards the scumreads on her, with little-to-no commentary on anything else. She does not feel like a townie who is genuinely invested in the game or genuinely trying to scumhunt, she is coasting, and I have no real reason to believe she is town compared to most of the other players.

I also do not want to vote for Enigma tonight, because if ofrhz is scum and if Enigma happens to be lynchbait, then I think scum will go in to vote Enigma instead. I think the angles between ofrhz-Prof Fridays-Enigma are worth noting -> ofrhz is tunneling on Prof Fridays who seems to be mostly ignoring it, Prof Fridays is defending Enigma for bizarre and hardly justifiable reasons, and Enigma has avoided commentary on both altogether. Definitely at least one scum in here if not two."

"Irrelephant11?"

"I'm voting for chickadee. She's in my lynchpool, vote ties are good for town (seems like there will be a number of votes for enigma already), and I don't have time this game night to re-read & analyze who in my lynchpool is absolutely the *best* lynch."

"Enigma?"

"

I am voting

Chickadee because of self-preservation, but I actually want to vote Pine."

"Feysal?"

"

I am voting for

Prof Fridays

I gave my reasons in my post 1040. I considered Ofrhz, mostly because consolidating votes would help keep our fortunate secret, and because his flip would at least force people to reconsider their reads if he was town. But no. Prof Fridays is who I suspect more.

I also tried to meta read Prof Fridays, but did not find much to go on. However, looking at his performance in Fallout Mafia, which he just won after replacing in as scum, does nothing to ease my suspicion. He is apparently completely capable of masquerading as town."

mutantdevle · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:52 am

Vote Count

(4) Chickadee

- ofrhz, FA_Q2, Irrelephant11, Enigma.

(3) Enigma

- Pine, Myloninja13, Kokichi Oma.

(3) ofrhz

- Chickadee, Prof Fridays, Guilty Lion.

(1) Prof Fridays

- Feysal.

mutantdevle · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:52 am

"You have voted for Chickadee

I can now reveal Chickadee was in fact a...

Spoiler: Role

"Chickadee, you successfully sabotaged the challenge but you were detected. Therefore you will not be leaving this room.

How do you feel about being trapped?"

"I

will

encourage town to look at GuiltyLion. More than once he's been accused of twisting people's words. I find that interesting. Even his line of questioning about my timing seems to be poking at something to make it much bigger and confusing for people to look at"

"Poor unfortunate Chickadee.

YOU'RE TRAPPED!"

Poor little Chickadee,

She bit off more than she could chew.

She made herself obvious

And now she is trapped on floor 2!

mutantdevle · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:57 am

The night phase has now begun and will end in (expired on 2018-08-22 23:00:00).

mutantdevle · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:38 pm

Okay so I’m an idiot who keeps remembering and instantly forgetting to unlock this thread. I’m in bed right now so I’ll

hopefully

start the day tomorrow. My apologies for being a moron.

mutantdevle · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:59 am

"Voting right may came at a cost,

As yet another innocent is lost.

FA_Q2 was trapped on the way to floor 3,

Sadly now, he'll never be free."

"FA_Q2, you have been trapped by the saboteurs and therefore will also not be leaving this room.

The rest of you are free to pass to the next floor.

FA_Q2, how do you feel about being trapped?"

"I feel much as Friday pointed out day one - shortest ever stand in. Really, 24 hours and one death post lol. That

is

not be cool at all. As far as the gamestate:

GL

I have a town read on GL. Enigma's case on him is weak. His hunting does not feel forced to me. Lots of engagement.

Irrelepahnt

Town. I like how he has been engaging and seems to be genuinely scum hunting.

Feysal

Town. Not seeing anything scummy here and he feels genuine.

Kokichi Oma

Scum lean. 420 felt like hedging should they want to screw up a challenge. Lots of using mechanics to scum hunt w/o actually scum hunting. Made a few good points on pine and suddenly started acting town at 733. Not sure how to take that considering the earlier posts.

Pine

lean scum. The number picking was utter garbage. I tend to tunnel play that I think is garbage though so take that for what it is worth. I don't really see anything from this slot that looks like genuine town. Overall, pine seems more interested in defending themselves rather than finding scum. That is a scummy thing to do.

Enigma

lean Scum. Lots of whining here and excuses for not hunting (140 complaining how the day was going to be 'boring') feels like covering for bad play that he knows is coming. Also feels pretty defensive. Going after GL gives him some town points but not enough to cover for the rest.

ofrhz

Scum. Started with neutral when I was putting this together but the more I think on it the more he feels like scum. There is some good content in his iso but I do not see any reaction when he pushes and asks questions but is ignored. That feels like he actually does not care about the answers - just wants to appear to be hunting. 1016 is a stand out example here - he calls out Friday for several reasons and asks directly about reasoning behind friday's reads. Friday does not respond at all and ofrhz does not seem to even notice. I would not be surprised if these 2 were a scum team.

Prof Fridays

Scum. Not really keen on his lynch choice. Feels like he just did not want to be on the mislynch with his scum buddies. 1235 was bad. REALLY bad. What possible town reason would there be to refuse to put a case on a player you are scum reading?

Myloninja

Scum. No content here at all. Very bad reasoning when there is a 'read' and overall not adding anything to the hunt.

I know I have a lot of scum here but there are just a lot of players that seem scummy in this game. Had to do this really fast - about an hour so I will expand more during day and try to be more clear with some of my reads if there are any questions."

Spoiler: Role

"Poor unfortunate FA_Q2.

YOU'RE TRAPPED!"

"Poor FA_Q2,

He bit off more than he could chew,

And although he just got here,

He's trapped on floor 2!"

mutantdevle · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:59 am

"FLOOR 3!"

"Perilous Passwords"

"This is perfect for a chatterbox.

There's a list of words that has been created,

As passwords to a floor that is locked and gated.

Guessing these 9 words will be no walk in the park,

As for unfortunates it'll be a stab in the dark!

For this challenge, a list of 9 words has been created.

If anyone uses any of the words then they will be crossed off the list.

No clues will be given as to what these words are.

To pass, all 9 words must be checked off the list."

"Unfortunates! To pass, you must have checked all 9 words off the list at the end of 1 week.

Let the challenge begin...

NOW!"

mutantdevle · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:00 am

Some clarification:

Only 1 person has to use the word for it to be crossed off the list.
The word must be spelt correctly to be crossed off.
Grammar is irrelevant. Eg, "their's" would be accepted for "their".
When a word is crossed off the list, the post that caused this to happen will be identified. However, it will not be revealed what the word was.

Now is the time to ask questions about the challenge if you do not understand it.

You will fail in (expired on 2018-08-31 16:00:00)

The saboteurs are told exactly what all the words are.

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:14 am

https://www.randomlists.com/random-words

road
rescue
wobble
terrific
dysfunctional
hammer
play
handsomely
suit
sweater
empty
staking
pipe
lamp
furniture
uninterested
painful
floor
crush
love
comparison
haunt
wrist
seal

Any chance the first three challenges just *happen* to be the three least fun?

the votes were interesting though
ofrhz & chickadee were on each other - suggests ofrhz town but this is WIFOMy
enigma voted scum while wishing he was voting someone else - suggests town
At least one of Prof & Guilty has to be town I'd think? If not both

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:15 am

In post 1263, mutantdevle wrote:Grammar is irrelevant. Eg, "their's" would be accepted for "their".

Would "unidentified" work for "identified"? Would "pineapple" work for "apple"?

ofrhz · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:35 am

In post 1257, mutantdevle wrote:
Vote Count
(4) Chickadee
- ofrhz, FA_Q2, Irrelephant11, Enigma.

(3) Enigma
- Pine, Myloninja13, Kokichi Oma.

(3) ofrhz
- Chickadee, Prof Fridays, Guilty Lion.

(1) Prof Fridays
- Feysal.

Not even close

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:37 am

@mutant can the word be inside a spoiler

Spoiler: words related to fairy tales

ofrhz · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:38 am

In post 1262, mutantdevle wrote:
"FLOOR 3!"

"Perilous Passwords"

"This is perfect for a chatterbox.

There's a list of words that has been created,

As passwords to a floor that is locked and gated.

Guessing these 9 words will be no walk in the park,

As for unfortunates it'll be a stab in the dark!

For this challenge, a list of 9 words has been created.

If anyone uses any of the words then they will be crossed off the list.

No clues will be given as to what these words are.

To pass, all 9 words must be checked off the list."

"Unfortunates! To pass, you must have checked all 9 words off the list at the end of 1 week.

Let the challenge begin...

NOW!"

If password is in quoted text, does it still count

ofrhz · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:48 am

Town

Irrelephant, enigma, feysal
Mylo
Gl
Pine, Kokichi, Fridays

Scum

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:02 am

ohhh it was nsg's slot that died
I couldn't remember who he replaced and was confused
yeah that makes sense nsg-slot would be a hard lynch and they hadn't let slip that they weren't the fortunate (maybe no one has done this, maybe I noticed someone do this, but anyway nsg didn't)

ofrhz talk to me about that feysal read

Irrelephant11 · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:23 am

In post 1264, Irrelephant11 wrote:Any chance the first three challenges just *happen* to be the three least fun?

sorry @mutant if this is rude but as feedback for any similar future games: last game day and this one give town very little agency...
Like at least if it were "one of these three words is

magical

and if you as a group say it more than the other two than you get through!" then town could feel like we were *doing* something, and maybe read into what scum did post-flips. As it is it feels like both these game days are mostly just stumbling in the dark

ofrhz · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:29 am

Why is feysal town?

I think scum would have consolidated their votes on me and enigma to push through one of our lynches. They must’ve known that chickadee was a likely lynch target based on the amount of suspicion she was receiving EOD. It would’ve been easy for even feysal to vote for one of me or Enigma despite not scumreading either of us under the guise of ~consolidating votes to get information~

I’m also impressed by the effort he has done in metadiving me to make sure he doesn’t fall for ummmm lynchbaity players and going against the group consensus. It’s honestly really easy for scum to sheep a generally strong town player who’s wrong about one of their scumreads. There’s a few other smaller things that are towny, like he’s demonstrated that he’s thinking of strategies throughout these challenges

Enigma · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:09 am

Hi wasn't expecting to still be here and I had spent a bit of time finding a nice I told you so meme, bit sad no one gets to see it

Glad that my suspicions on Chickadee played out true, I tend to get a bit distracted and tunnel, and end up skimming over other parts. Have a bit more of an idea about the game state now so some more clarity on reads ... finally, as requested

--
Probs Town
Irrelephant: I like his vote reasoning from last night with the parity and that it led to scum being lynched, considering the various wagons happening. Tbh I was expecting him to be NKed. Considering how widely town read he is becoming, if he is alive in LYLO it will be a headfuck.

Ofrhz: I resonate quite a bit with her vote from last night. 1272 follows my chain of thought, being in the same wagon position. Similar to ofrhz, I feel like scum would tend avoid the chickadee wagon given the viability of ofrhz and myself as counter wagons, so ofrhz's vote on chickadee gives town points.

Feysal: Similar reasoning to ofrhz's post above

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Probs Scum
Pine: Tbh, I was originally feeling town on this slot but the number thing (and sequencing of guesses) was a bit too convenient and felt like a show by the end of it. The way he was explicit about who is was voting (me) felt like a way to encourage/persuade others to jump onto my wagon, rather than letting others make up their own mind (I've mentioned previously why I think this is a bad thing for town). Chickadee flipping scum further cements the read.

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That's enough for now, the others are a bit null to me. A few other random comments

I don't know what to make of chickadee's will on GL right now. Combine my read on Pine with Pine's interaction with GL (I don't think it is SvS) makes me want to think of GL as town, but don't really want to yet ahaha.

Gut maybe scum on PF based on associations with who I TR.
Not sure about Kokichi and Mylo. Hard to read. Less likely to be scum if Pine flips scum based on last night's vote.

Enigma · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:11 am

Can I also whine about today's challenge as well....?
As I see it, either someone goes and ctrl c+v a dictionary, or we just ignore and play mountainous fun.