Mini 2026: Deja-Vu Mafia (night 3)

Invisibility · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:33 am

lynch kokichi

Invisibility · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:33 am

haha i can do it too

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:33 am

My meta is quite situational and depends on factors such as my mood, how my schedule is going during the games timeline, my emotional state, my role, if im trying something new. Etc etc. My meta here hasnt entirely stabalized as much as elsewhere.
Anyway im not gonna find excuses if im not playing at my best in every game tbh

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:35 am

In post 395, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 352, Gamma Emerald wrote:townread on FA
kinda townleaning brass but I think I still want more from him
invisibility is in the null range
enigma is a scumlean, so is branson
everything else I don't have much of an opinion on yet

Why townlead on brass just curious.

I feel like his contributions have been helpful. I don't feel like he's on the sidelines, which is kinda what I expect from him after what happened in Varsoon Variety Hour

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:36 am

In post 400, Invisibility wrote:lynch kokichi

In post 401, Invisibility wrote:haha i can do it too

That's nice. So are you going to at least answer me

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:36 am

In post 397, Invisibility wrote:
In post 386, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 313, Invisibility wrote:
In post 300, Gamma Emerald wrote:invisibility so far most of your content has been votes
top 3 townreads and why on each
ok
brassherald and frozen angel were towny from their interaction
ok now i have to conjure up a third townread because the game has actually completely been kokichi
hmm maybe i shall PoE pool this can help
actually nah that would be 3029203923092039 null reads
still on the search but i found 186 from enigma which is kind of a gross post
but i like 274 downwards from enigma so thats pretty good
oh wait gamma has a pretty neat looking effort to gamesolve in this so gamma can be the third townread

Which interaction?
the thing where fa got really angry at brass

Which FA and give a postrange imo.

Invisibility · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:37 am

oh crap there are two FAs

Invisibility · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:37 am

lemme look for it i gotta answer kokichi's question first

Invisibility · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:38 am

In post 404, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 400, Invisibility wrote:lynch kokichi

In post 401, Invisibility wrote:haha i can do it too
That's nice. So are you going to at least answer me

ok
its because while people are talking in mafia they still have a role pm they received and therefore are thinking in a mafia mindset

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:39 am

In post 403, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 395, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 352, Gamma Emerald wrote:townread on FA
kinda townleaning brass but I think I still want more from him
invisibility is in the null range
enigma is a scumlean, so is branson
everything else I don't have much of an opinion on yet

Why townlead on brass just curious.
I feel like his contributions have been helpful. I don't feel like he's on the sidelines, which is kinda what I expect from him after what happened in Varsoon Variety Hour

Thats fair.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:40 am

I dont think that's wise to townread off of. Because just because someone is passionate about something, does not mean it gives info about alignment. I could argue about something danganronpa related with true passion but still be scum in a game.

Fiery Angel · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:41 am

In post 381, DeathRowKitty wrote:Huh? You believe Kokichi to be essentially 100% town, right? Even given that perspective, do you consider the range of possibilities of what might happen tonight around his role satisfactory? If so, I would love to hear what you think the range of possibilities is, that you could possibly find it satisfactory.

No, not a 100% obviously.

We don't really need to know his role, not yet at least. Learning potentially if someone targets him. Effects is satisfactory.

Invisibility · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:46 am

ok
but i think that brass is still town and stuff because throughout the game content
lemme iso frozenlafhalsfjoaisjf;iaesjfioaeshgoih4woegjsoighsdiughoashfgiushgoiahsgiuhsriughadughasildhfglukshgkluhdfkughskughsfkughkuhkufdshgkushfgkudhsfguhfdsguhsdfug
btw ignore the keyboard mashing part

btw got pedited im responding to 410

uh frozen can actually go to townlean

btw answering the question that is eevee's
looking for the postrange but 44 is a beuatiful post
any post range is 88-123

also it was game related kinda so hah

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:51 am

Spoiler: This Post

Gamma:

For Now probably town i down see scum going through this much work.

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:14 am

In post 411, Fiery Angel wrote:
In post 381, DeathRowKitty wrote:Huh? You believe Kokichi to be essentially 100% town, right? Even given that perspective, do you consider the range of possibilities of what might happen tonight around his role satisfactory? If so, I would love to hear what you think the range of possibilities is, that you could possibly find it satisfactory.
No, not a 100% obviously.

We don't really need to know his role, not yet at least. Learning potentially if someone targets him. Effects is satisfactory.

Okay, but that's the single best-case scenario and I think the least likely scenario. What if instead of 1 person, 5 people target him and we've just wasted night 1? What if some combination of the bystander effect and Kokichi's cagey anti-town play causes no one to target him and he's town who actually did need to be targeted? What if he's scum hiding behind "oh, I can't claim, but everyone needs to target me" and he turns out to be some sort of role that would really harm town if targeted? Your scenario of 1 person targeting Kokichi and us learning town-him's role is incredibly optimistic and not representative of what I believe to be the plausible range of night 1 happenings. Does anything about any of this concern you?

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:15 am

In post 15, Branson wrote:Good morning, everyone.

I'd like to state that
I am a miller.

VOTE: NicoRobin

is your miller specific or just miller.?
For now

Branson:

Null; hasnt been here for alot of game. Miller claim is also an ehh thing. Neither really alignment revealing for now.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:16 am

In post 414, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 411, Fiery Angel wrote:
In post 381, DeathRowKitty wrote:Huh? You believe Kokichi to be essentially 100% town, right? Even given that perspective, do you consider the range of possibilities of what might happen tonight around his role satisfactory? If so, I would love to hear what you think the range of possibilities is, that you could possibly find it satisfactory.
No, not a 100% obviously.

We don't really need to know his role, not yet at least. Learning potentially if someone targets him. Effects is satisfactory.
Okay, but that's the single best-case scenario and I think the least likely scenario. What if instead of 1 person, 5 people target him and we've just wasted night 1? What if some combination of the bystander effect and Kokichi's cagey anti-town play causes no one to target him and he's town who actually did need to be targeted? What if he's scum hiding behind "oh, I can't claim, but everyone needs to target me" and he turns out to be some sort of role that would really harm town if targeted? Your scenario of 1 person targeting Kokichi and us learning town-him's role is incredibly optimistic and not representative of what I believe to be the plausible range of night 1 happenings. Does anything about any of this concern you?

Yeah no this is scum. This is possibility vs probability at its finest.
VOTE: DeathRowKitty

Invisibility · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:17 am

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:21 am

In post 416, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 414, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 411, Fiery Angel wrote:
In post 381, DeathRowKitty wrote:Huh? You believe Kokichi to be essentially 100% town, right? Even given that perspective, do you consider the range of possibilities of what might happen tonight around his role satisfactory? If so, I would love to hear what you think the range of possibilities is, that you could possibly find it satisfactory.
No, not a 100% obviously.

We don't really need to know his role, not yet at least. Learning potentially if someone targets him. Effects is satisfactory.
Okay, but that's the single best-case scenario and I think the least likely scenario. What if instead of 1 person, 5 people target him and we've just wasted night 1? What if some combination of the bystander effect and Kokichi's cagey anti-town play causes no one to target him and he's town who actually did need to be targeted? What if he's scum hiding behind "oh, I can't claim, but everyone needs to target me" and he turns out to be some sort of role that would really harm town if targeted? Your scenario of 1 person targeting Kokichi and us learning town-him's role is incredibly optimistic and not representative of what I believe to be the plausible range of night 1 happenings. Does anything about any of this concern you?
Yeah no this is scum. This is possibility vs probability at its finest.
VOTE: DeathRowKitty

If by "possibility vs probability," you mean that I'm presenting unlikely possibilities as being likely, your vote is ridiculous. Unless you believe the best-case scenario to be particularly likely, expected value is way not on our side here.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:29 am

In post 418, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 416, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 414, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 411, Fiery Angel wrote:
In post 381, DeathRowKitty wrote:Huh? You believe Kokichi to be essentially 100% town, right? Even given that perspective, do you consider the range of possibilities of what might happen tonight around his role satisfactory? If so, I would love to hear what you think the range of possibilities is, that you could possibly find it satisfactory.
No, not a 100% obviously.

We don't really need to know his role, not yet at least. Learning potentially if someone targets him. Effects is satisfactory.
Okay, but that's the single best-case scenario and I think the least likely scenario. What if instead of 1 person, 5 people target him and we've just wasted night 1? What if some combination of the bystander effect and Kokichi's cagey anti-town play causes no one to target him and he's town who actually did need to be targeted? What if he's scum hiding behind "oh, I can't claim, but everyone needs to target me" and he turns out to be some sort of role that would really harm town if targeted? Your scenario of 1 person targeting Kokichi and us learning town-him's role is incredibly optimistic and not representative of what I believe to be the plausible range of night 1 happenings. Does anything about any of this concern you?
Yeah no this is scum. This is possibility vs probability at its finest.
VOTE: DeathRowKitty
If by "possibility vs probability," you mean that I'm presenting unlikely possibilities as being likely, your vote is ridiculous. Unless you believe the best-case scenario to be particularly likely, expected value is way not on our side here.

Maybe that wasn't the best way to phrase it, but you not giving ANY solutions is bad imo, as it means you're just trying to freak people out.

Invisibility · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:30 am

gamma you're making yourself look much worse

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:31 am

In post 419, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 418, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 416, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 414, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 411, Fiery Angel wrote:
In post 381, DeathRowKitty wrote:Huh? You believe Kokichi to be essentially 100% town, right? Even given that perspective, do you consider the range of possibilities of what might happen tonight around his role satisfactory? If so, I would love to hear what you think the range of possibilities is, that you could possibly find it satisfactory.
No, not a 100% obviously.

We don't really need to know his role, not yet at least. Learning potentially if someone targets him. Effects is satisfactory.
Okay, but that's the single best-case scenario and I think the least likely scenario. What if instead of 1 person, 5 people target him and we've just wasted night 1? What if some combination of the bystander effect and Kokichi's cagey anti-town play causes no one to target him and he's town who actually did need to be targeted? What if he's scum hiding behind "oh, I can't claim, but everyone needs to target me" and he turns out to be some sort of role that would really harm town if targeted? Your scenario of 1 person targeting Kokichi and us learning town-him's role is incredibly optimistic and not representative of what I believe to be the plausible range of night 1 happenings. Does anything about any of this concern you?
Yeah no this is scum. This is possibility vs probability at its finest.
VOTE: DeathRowKitty
If by "possibility vs probability," you mean that I'm presenting unlikely possibilities as being likely, your vote is ridiculous. Unless you believe the best-case scenario to be particularly likely, expected value is way not on our side here.
Maybe that wasn't the best way to phrase it, but you not giving ANY solutions is bad imo, as it means you're just trying to freak people out.

I did give a solution - Kokichi needs to claim.

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:32 am

What did you mean by "possibility vs probability" though? Now that you responded the way you did, I don't understand what framing you were going for.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:37 am

In post 422, DeathRowKitty wrote:What did you mean by "possibility vs probability" though? Now that you responded the way you did, I don't understand what framing you were going for.

I was referring to how you were just throwing out possibilities without any follow-up. And maybe I overreacted but it just didn't feel right in any way.

DeathRowKitty · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:39 am

Do you still feel that way about that post, given that the entire context of the post was that I'd been advocating for a fullclaim?