Mini 2034: DnD uPick (Town Victory!)

[Tatl and Tael]

So what happens when MC flips scum?

[Wisdom]

This ain't some kind of 'its a read that only I can see thing' which I am perfectly comfortable bringing out when it suits me, its an objective fact.

Then show me why theyre scum
All youve said is "they look town but don't get fooled"

[Tatl and Tael]

Like I just said

there's no gamesolving effort
there's a lot of empty shade
there's a lot of empty questions that don't get followed up on
there's icky interactions between them and simyk
I get heavily gut pinged by several of their posts

[Tatl and Tael]

I dunno you're acting like I'm saying 'lynch this person because I'm RC and I'm the cutest person in the game' but that's not really what's been happening.

[Wisdom]

the latter two are bias and the others are present in like every slot

[Tatl and Tael]

Why would I be biased regarding MC? I think the only thing at all present in this game I systematically get biased about is people scumreading me are more likely to be scum.

[Tatl and Tael]

Okay SO apparently the leveling system is not public information!

So I guess only my role has knowledge of its existence WHICH makes sense! ^_^

Tinfoil hat theory, you are scum and didnt realize that only you guys had that part of the game explained to you. You spoke to it before your buddies could tell you not to. Now you are stuck in an odd position.

HOW am I in an odd position? (・_・ヾ

I mean in this theory you are scum who has knowledge of a mechanic that isnt known to the town. So in this case the odd position would be you claiming to have info about how the game works when no one else does. Like I said maybe you thought this was info we'd all have and now you have to backtrack a bit to save face.

I felt that he was more likely to pick my vote if he townread me for my entrance as town and also feel like he is opening himself to be interactive! ^_^

So not really a specific post it is JUST an emotional leveling with the content he has posted so far

The more I read the top part the more confused it get.

The more I read the bottom the more I think this is coming from scum.

Like this empty shade on the Simyk hydra that never gets seriously followed up is incredibly scum indicative and that's an objective statement.
FF is a big boy who follows up on his reads, he is not someone I've known to shade a slot a whole bunch of times and not end up pushing them seriously.

[Tatl and Tael]

ff kinda looks town 2 me

I kinda feel like this is a test. Is this a test? Like if I dont say anything after what I said earlier than how can you trust anything I say?

Also who when townread immediately asks if it's a test like they expect to

not

get townread or something

[RightKnight]

no its just rc being rc
can you just ignore him for now?

So this seems like a majority of the “content”.

~~Castle

@Wisdom I am thinking RC/Key Schadd and Lovebird.

Thoughts? Where do you agree? Where do you disagree?

[RightKnight]

I dunno you're acting like I'm saying 'lynch this person because I'm RC and I'm the cutest person in the game' but that's not really what's been happening.

It’s really how you’re coming off.

~~Castle

If you think we’re scum or anyone else is come at it with an explanation. What you’re doing isn’t convincing or helping.

[RightKnight]

I think that {Saske/MC} has really high odds of being two scum. I don't understand the townreads SIMYK has: are you just locking her town for postcount because that's the only thing I can see.
I can't 100% say that Lovebird is town because I don't have a strong grasp of what her scum game looks like but I can say pretty confidently that no one can say that she's scum for what she's done this game. And given the contents of the wagon (sidenote: I'm not actually that sure Wis is scum, though I do think he's below null) if she's scum I'm pretty sure she's being bussed which also makes me less enthusiastic about voting there because it's no good to vote scum and in the process gives scum immunity the rest of the game.

Then why are you so quick to dismiss those with knowledge of lovebird’s scum game where it is what she does?

(See the upick where she was scum with LLD she lurksacked it out similar to here.)

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Sure, let's talk results.

My last finished town games:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77380

poed the game d1, still lost because my reads were ignored.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=77043

had 2 scum pinned on D1, had enough townreads to poe the game, still lost because my reads were ignored.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76181

literally mechanically guiltied 3 scum and had called all 4 scum on d2 with only 1 flipped scum (that I deathtunneled) and still lost the game because... my reads were ignored.

there's a pattern here.

This is gambler’s fallacy RC.

Just stop. Mafia isn’t a scientific game.

~~Castle

[schadd_]

that isn't gambler's fallacy

[schadd_]

just pondering, the multiball theory was hilarious and enjoyable

[ceejayvinoya]

Why is lovebird not lynched yet ughhh

[Tatl and Tael]

Ceejay you saw my reads in the newbie sheep me on MC please

[Tatl and Tael]

Sure, let's talk results.

My last finished town games:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77380

poed the game d1, still lost because my reads were ignored.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=77043

had 2 scum pinned on D1, had enough townreads to poe the game, still lost because my reads were ignored.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76181

literally mechanically guiltied 3 scum and had called all 4 scum on d2 with only 1 flipped scum (that I deathtunneled) and still lost the game because... my reads were ignored.

there's a pattern here.

This is gambler’s fallacy RC.

Just stop. Mafia isn’t a scientific game.

~~Castle

I'm glad that you've started appreciating that your reads are no better than chance.
I would argue that your reads are significantly

worse

than chance, but I am fine with you at least agreeing your reads are not better than chance.
That said, the fact that your reads are significantly worse than chance (or chance) does not mean that

my

reads are chance and the fact you scumread LB basically guarantees them town imo

the people who have strong lovebird scumreads are the same people who have mislynched lovebird in their past games.

[Tatl and Tael]

Like LOVEBIRD HAS 58 POSTS.

YOU SAY SHE LURKS AS SCUM: I AGREE SHE LURKS AS SCUM

SHE IS NOT LURKING THIS GAME

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ABOUT HER ALIGNMENT?

[schadd_]

i claim to be lovebird-agnostic

[Tatl and Tael]

RightKnight Oct 06, 01:39pm Oct 11, 02:00pm 0 days 0 hours 172
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis Oct 06, 12:19pm Oct 09, 08:49pm 1 day 18 hours 119
schadd_ Oct 06, 01:35pm Oct 11, 02:18pm 0 days 0 hours 103
Tatl and Tael Oct 06, 02:28pm Oct 11, 02:54pm 0 days 0 hours 100
Eragon Oct 06, 12:11pm Oct 10, 11:37pm 0 days 15 hours 79
MariaR Oct 06, 12:55pm Oct 11, 01:20am 0 days 13 hours 63
Messiah Complex Oct 06, 07:07pm Oct 10, 10:46pm 0 days 16 hours 58
Lovebird Oct 06, 02:12pm Oct 11, 12:24am 0 days 14 hours 53

median activity
some lurker huh
sure playing to that scum meta of lurking

[Tatl and Tael]

oh, 1 below median activity
tragic
point stands i would expect like 20 posts from her as scum at this point in the game.

[Tatl and Tael]

@Maria why are you sheeping kokichi instead of me?

[ceejayvinoya]

Ceejay you saw my reads in the newbie sheep me on MC please

I'll think on it.
My early townreads are usually right tho...

[Tatl and Tael]

Ceejay you saw my reads in the newbie sheep me on MC please

I'll think on it.
My early townreads are usually right tho...

this one isn't.

[Tatl and Tael]

also, would you agree that malakittens and lovebird are very comparable in terms of the reason that you're scumreading them?