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In post 847, Wisdom wrote:can you just stay on lovebird?

T&T is fucking open wolfing. I don’t know wtf they’re trying to prove but saying they want me dead and saying they’re not even sr me, is a blatant scumclaim.

I feel a lot more confident that this is flipping red than LB but I’m not opposed. I just don’t want open wolfing scum to be allowed to coast.

no its just rc being rc
can you just ignore him for now?

In post 851, Wisdom wrote:no its just rc being rc
can you just ignore him for now?

Okay, he’s just trying to bait our slot to get off LB.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Lovebird

In post 685, RightKnight wrote:Anyway RC, I apologize if I said anything to upset you. I think it’s pretty damn clear to everyone here that neither Math or you have any interest in fighting. I can tell you that Math made it 100% clear to me, he isn’t. Like you, he just wants to have a fun game.

@Mod, can you delete this post? You will be my favourite mod ever.

In post 853, RightKnight wrote:

In post 685, RightKnight wrote:

Anyway RC, I apologize if I said anything to upset you.

I think it’s pretty damn clear to everyone here that neither Math or you have any interest in fighting. I can tell you that Math made it 100% clear to me, he isn’t. Like you, he just wants to have a fun game.

@Mod, can you delete this post? You will be my favourite mod ever.

Actually, please only remove the bolded. Kthanx

~ Checkmate

(If Math is still going to sign Castle, then why not? )

In post 850, RightKnight wrote:

In post 847, Wisdom wrote:can you just stay on lovebird?

T&T is fucking open wolfing. I don’t know wtf they’re trying to prove but saying they want me dead and saying they’re not even sr me, is a blatant scumclaim.

I feel a lot more confident that this is flipping red than LB but I’m not opposed. I just don’t want open wolfing scum to be allowed to coast.

RightKnight your cherrypicking is becoming frustrating. I think you're scum, I've said this and you not paying attention to that if while thinking we're scum is , but we're looking elsewhere right now because I think it's more useful and RC is working with that. We'll revisit you later.
In the meantime be helpful and protown, do the cooperative talking thing you want RC to be doing. Exclaiming we're open wolfing and blatantly scumclaiming, asking the mod to edit ingame posts ( ) and all that nonsense is just counterproductive noise, since it's unlikely to get us lynched. Assuming that's your goal with it.

In post 821, Lovebird wrote:

In post 776, Tatl and Tael wrote:i'm townreading maria, lovebird, kinda townreading dunn, vaguely townreading kokichi and schadd and ceejay, willing to sheep consensus on eragon

the leftover pool is

messiah
rightknight
simyk
wisdom
-empty slot-

I like how it sounds! But, not convinced on ceejay. Why consensus on eragon?

I didn't give this list but I'll give opinions. Personally I switched on ceejay because of the zero fucks given, that seems riskier to me as scum. I have messed up reads because of that before though, thinking about it. Consensus on Eragon is that I think he's town and some of the things he's said have been very on point, plus most everyone already thinks he's town so kicking that is probably not worth it. Him getting in between Kokichi and Maria was suuuuper awkward though. Possibly as awkward as Maria herself, though that looks resolved now.

In post 836, MariaR wrote:

In post 833, Kokichi Oma wrote:Lovebird I'm sad you're scum this game

How do you feel about MC?

In post 837, Kokichi Oma wrote:Literally who

I'm not the only one suffering!


-Key

Btw I'm not a lie detector I was just testing maria

ND there's an element of progression that I think you're missing. I did think you guys were scum. Now I'm not so sure. Keychain still thinks that you're scum outright. I'm not scum and I wouldn't push on you guys if I were scum because Mathblade is one of the most easily pocketed players in site history and town you wouldn't see anything amiss with me cozying up to your slot given that I did it every time we rolled town.

If you're town trust us to figure it out in the space that we're giving you, if you're scum trust us to not forget it and to powerlynch you into next week

I think that MC is scum in a way that I haven't felt about any of my other scumreads this game.

hh VOTE: messiah gomplecx

I think that {Saske/MC} has really high odds of being two scum. I don't understand the townreads SIMYK has: are you just locking her town for postcount because that's the only thing I can see.
I can't 100% say that Lovebird is town because I don't have a strong grasp of what her scum game looks like but I can say pretty confidently that no one can say that she's scum for what she's done this game. And given the contents of the wagon (sidenote: I'm not actually that sure Wis is scum, though I do think he's below null) if she's scum I'm pretty sure she's being bussed which also makes me less enthusiastic about voting there because it's no good to vote scum and in the process gives scum immunity the rest of the game.

Like Lovebird is a perfectly fine slot to not lynch in the early game because no one should be afraid of them endgaming. MC I'm already really concerned is going to endgame as scum, as I am with Simyk. Don't like their mutual interactions, don't like the individual slots, don't like Simyk's approach to MB wagon, don't like anything at all.

I think MC is getting lazy townreads because they're charismatic and trying to be nice to people that don't mesh with the content they've actually produced.

rc logic
Whoever looks town is scum

Or more accurately
"I cant read anyone for shit so i want to lynch town looking people so they dont endgame if they are scum"

MC doesn't look town at all and if you think that you're a weak player.

Or more accurately
"I cant read anyone for shit so i want to lynch town looking people so they dont endgame if they are scum"

Neither Simyk nor Messiah look town at all and if you think that you do, well, you're probably not a very good player.

both of them look town and are town

whos not a good player is open to interpretation

Sure, let's talk results.

My last finished town games:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77380

poed the game d1, still lost because my reads were ignored.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=77043

had 2 scum pinned on D1, had enough townreads to poe the game, still lost because my reads were ignored.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76181

literally mechanically guiltied 3 scum and had called all 4 scum on d2 with only 1 flipped scum (that I deathtunneled) and still lost the game because... my reads were ignored.

there's a pattern here.

Now do I have a flaw in terms of reacting badly to being scumread and scumreading people for scumreading me? probably. Do I systematically misread certain people? probably.
But I was just in a formerfish game where I opened his ISO and had him pinned as town on his 4th posts (the newbie.) I scumread him about his 7th post in this game.
I'm confident in my ability to read that slot, thank you very much.

oh we can add

viewtopic.php?f=83&t=77333

had the PoE pool down d1, was right, lost because I got mislynched despite having been the town mvp in every sense.
led two mislynches on carca and skygazer but they were scumreading me for the most bogus reasons imaginable and they shouldn't have won if they were scum.

Let's talk your results. Partition mafia? NSG single easiest modern player to read on the site, even moreso than Creature, and you derptunneled her and lost? That's unimpressive.
So dunno dude. I am not Ellibereth because I don't have his machine but I perform. Don't discredit me or my reads.
If you're scum trying to keep your partners alive you're better off just calling me scum, I'm sure you'll get at least a few dummies in the game to mislynch me.

Or that deathtunnel you did on Titus that was so extreme that I thought you had a guilty despite the fact that I was hard townreading Sakura Hana.
Like I'm not here to say you're a shit player but I have confidence in my abilities and if you're going to attack my reads I'll certainly bring them into perspective.

lmao
sorry guys you should totally sheep this great player

I'm not against that but MC is fundamentally scummy and I think that anyone who takes the time to actually look through their ISO critically will agree with my assessment that there's a shit ton of empty shade and a shit ton of questions that don't get followed up on and a shit ton of charismatic buddying up to people but very little actual gamesolving effort or reads pushing.

This ain't some kind of 'its a read that only I can see thing' which I am perfectly comfortable bringing out when it suits me, its an objective fact.

i dont fucking care about your results

The two people youre scumreading are town and you evidently are scumreading them just because they look town

Everything else is you trying to make yourself feel better