Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[Not Known 15]

24: To 22, Elbirn said no experience w/ playerlist; too much time shitposting not playing, so not sure what skill level is. To 23, stated too timid, notes there should be some sneaking suspicion. Acknowledges lost townies/town not confident in reads, but on a different level. Yet specifies it's too obvious and wonders how bad scum would be. (Hmm, add this to the list of suspicious posts.)

Elbirn, is this true?

[jjh927]

Something doesn't seem to add up

Votecount #18:

Player	Votes	Voters
MariaR	4	Nibbui, northsidegal, Not Known 15, Elbirn
Not Known 15	2	MariaR, Kokichi Oma
Kokichi Oma	1	mutantdevle
Elbirn	1	Firebringer
Not voting	---	NicoRobin, ChibiBear, Gamma Emerald

With 11 alive it's 6 to achieve majority for the lynch

The day will end in (expired on 2019-01-11 06:00:00).

[jjh927]

mutantdevle shoots D1, hitting Gamma Emerald.
northsidegal shoots B4. missing.
Gamma Emerald does not shoot.
Kokichi Oma shoots C2, missing.

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
A	1	1	1	1	0
B	0			0			0
C		0	1			0
D	1					2		0
E				0	0	2
F						2	0
G		0				3	1	0
H	0			0			0	0

Known hits:

Not Known 15: A3, A4, A2, A1

MariaR: E6, D6, F6, C6

Succinct: E6, D6, F6, C6

northsidegal: C3
Kokichi Oma: G7, G6
Gamma Emerald: D1

You know the drill. Aiming for around (expired on 2019-01-08 16:00:00).

[Elbirn]

24: To 22, Elbirn said no experience w/ playerlist; too much time shitposting not playing, so not sure what skill level is. To 23, stated too timid, notes there should be some sneaking suspicion. Acknowledges lost townies/town not confident in reads, but on a different level. Yet specifies it's too obvious and wonders how bad scum would be. (Hmm, add this to the list of suspicious posts.)

Elbirn, is this true?

Which part and yes

The only person in this game who was alive when I said that that i knew previously was Gamma Emerald, and I wont claim to have some insight into his brain when I haven't played with him for ages and I have the memory of a goldfish regardless and also meta is mostly turds

Chibis read list immediately bothered both me and nibbui, who seemed to have a simultaneous brain blast about it. I mused that while its surface level scummy, I'd think scum would probably fake one or two scumreads for the sake of completeness, and then I'm a sucker for AtE and boy did she do that

Every post that succinct has declared suspicious so far either appears to have been RNG'd out of a hat (because I have no idea where the fuck hes coming from) or otherwise ignores context and other details in an attempt to spin it the worst possible way. I only briefly skimmed the contrived bullshit that was making a wall of every single post in the neighborhood but I legitimately cant see how someone reads all of that and so confidently reaches the conclusion of "all of this is bad".

Like lmao nah I'm being cased by scum

[Firebringer]

want to give examples of why you think they rnged posts?

[jjh927]

mutantdevle shoots E1, missing.
northsidegal shoots G4, hitting Kokichi Oma.
Gamma Emerald does not shoot.
Kokichi Oma shoots D3, hitting both northsidegal and Gamma Emerald.

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
A	1	1	1	1	0
B	0			0			0
C		0	1			0
D	1		2			2		0
E	0			0	0	2
F						2	0
G		0		1		3	1	0
H	0			0			0	0

Known hits:

Not Known 15: A3, A4, A2, A1

MariaR: E6, D6, F6, C6

Succinct: E6, D6, F6, C6

northsidegal: C3, D3
Kokichi Oma: G7, G6, G4
Gamma Emerald: D1, D3

Probably around (expired on 2019-01-09 01:30:00).

[Succinct]

I can't tell if that line of thinking from Elbrin is scummy or just stupid.

You understand my suspicion, yes?

I legitimately cant see how someone reads all of that and so confidently reaches the conclusion of "all of this is bad".

I didn't. Only 13, 15, 17, 20, 21, 24, 29, + 30. Rest were fine.

[Elbirn]

Elbirn said NSG was softing a cop inno. (I felt that was a misleading narrative.)

Lol what. Nico claimed miller so there is no way that NSG has a cop inno on them. Unless nico claimed miller when they're not a miller???

How else do you explain NSG behavior around nico?

If I'm scum, why do I want town to stop role fishing an investigative?

[mutantdevle]

You understand my suspicion, yes?

100% yeah. Elbrin is one of my strongest scum reads. I plan to case him on day 3/4 depending on how Kokichi resolves. Though if you wanna push him at any point then I'll jump in to back you up with the numerous scummy shit he's done throughout the game.

[mutantdevle]

How else do you explain NSG behavior around nico?

If I'm scum, why do I want town to stop role fishing an investigative?

1. I doubt that Nico is town fake claiming miller with NSG having a cop inno. I think that NSG's read on Nico is nothing more than just that, a read. Nico has done something that has made NSG think she is strongly town. I don't know whether that's because of meta or a PT we don't know about but I don't see a reason why NSG wouldn't claim a mechanical reason to town read Nico when NSG literally can't be targetted by the mafia unless she doesn't actually have much to support the read.

2. As scum, you wouldn't want town to role fish because you wouldn't want us learning information that we don't have. If you know something that we don't then that gives you an advantage. Additionally, "we shouldn't role fish" is an easy defence for scum who don't want to talk about information they know. Both for the reason above and because you'd have to fake theorising if you knew the answer. Tbh, I don't understand why you're so paranoid about town questioning NSGs role. If we figure it out, what are scum going to do about it, huh?

[Not Known 15]

100% yeah. Elbrin is one of my strongest scum reads.

I plan to case him on day 3/4 depending on how Kokichi resolves

. Though if you wanna push him at any point then I'll jump in to back you up with the numerous scummy shit he's done throughout the game.

Mutant is likely Mafia for that sentence. Why would town wait to case someone when they could die at any night?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would scum?

[mutantdevle]

Mutant is likely Mafia for that sentence. Why would town wait to case someone when they could die at any night?

You're reading that as "I don't have any urgency because I'm scum and don't have to worry about being night killed". But it was mostly "If Kokichi is indeed an IC then I will be pushing Elbrin instead and if Kokichi isn't an IC I don't want to do anything that will get in the way of that lynch".

[NicoRobin]

I am lazy

as hell.

[Elbirn]

100% yeah. Elbrin is one of my strongest scum reads.

I plan to case him on day 3/4 depending on how Kokichi resolves

. Though if you wanna push him at any point then I'll jump in to back you up with the numerous scummy shit he's done throughout the game.

Mutant is likely Mafia for that sentence. Why would town wait to case someone when they could die at any night?

This actually tracks for a town mindset

If mutant==scum and kokichi==town, mutant would know immediately that kokichi is telling the truth and would back off / case me today. Maintaining suspicion of kokichi makes more sense for town mutant

[Elbirn]

want to give examples of why you think they rnged posts?

Before I make you buttmad again I plan to answer this in a longer post dissecting what succinct has posted thus far, especially the neighborhood breakdown

[jjh927]

It's bathtime again

mutantdevle shoots B3. missing.
northsidegal shoots G5, hitting Kokichi Oma and sinking his battleship.
Gamma Emerald shoots F3, hitting both northsidegal and mutantdevle.
Kokichi Oma shoots E3, hitting northsidegal and sinking her battleship.

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
A	1	1	1	1	0
B	0		0	0			0
C		0	1			0
D	1		2			2		0
E	0		1	0	0	2
F			2			2	0
G		0		1	1	3	1	0
H	0			0			0	0

Known hits:

Not Known 15: A3, A4, A2, A1

MariaR: E6, D6, F6, C6

Succinct: E6, D6, F6, C6

northsidegal: C3, D3, F3, E3

Kokichi Oma: G7, G6, G4, G5

Gamma Emerald: D1, D3
mutantdevle: F3



In the interests of not unnecessarily prolonging this minigame, mutantdevle wins, as he is guaranteed the victory in 2 turns.

[jjh927]

Ship positions:

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
A	1	1	1	1
B
C			1
D	1	1	2	1		2
E			1			2
F		1	2	1	1	2
G				1	1	3	1
H

mutantdevle: F2, F3, F4, F5
Succinct: G6, F6, E6, D6
MariaR: D6, E6, F6, G6
northsidegal: C3, D3, E3, F3
Gamma Emerald: D1, D2, D3, D4
Kokichi Oma: G4, G5, G6, G7
Not Known 15: A1, A2, A3, A4



Please take a moment to acknowledge that MariaR and Succinct submitted the same ship placement facing different directions

[mutantdevle]

In the interests of not unnecessarily prolonging this minigame, mutantdevle wins, as he is guaranteed the victory in 2 turns.

Umm, actually - if people decided to target me and ignore shooting Gamma's ship then there is still a chance he could have won.

Now that the minigame is over, are we allowed to discuss it?

[northsidegal]

i was already dead at that point, it was just you and gamma.

either way, now that that's out of the way, i think i'm fine ending the day now.

[Firebringer]

by ending the day do u mean lynching elbirn?
cause I am also fine with that.

[Not Known 15]

by ending the day do u mean lynching elbirn?
cause I am also fine with that.

No, lynching MariaR.

[mutantdevle]

i was already dead at that point, it was just you and gamma.

Oh yeah, I forgot that the dead can't shoot lol. I shouldn't make posts right after I wake up.

[mutantdevle]

by ending the day do u mean lynching elbirn?
cause I am also fine with that.

No, lynching MariaR.

Lynching Elbrin is certainly an option. Not so sure we have the time left in the day to explore it though.

[Kokichi Oma]

Mfw you try to sink me when I unlock another ability as well