Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[mutantdevle]

Were you able to talk there during the night phase?

[Succinct]

RC and I both lost access to gamma's private thread, though exactly when i don't recall – i'm not sure if it was at the end of day one or later.

Did you actually lose access, or was it simply locked?

[northsidegal]

Were you able to talk there during the night phase?

i don't recall, although on further reflection i'm certain that gamma could answer.

RC and I both lost access to gamma's private thread, though exactly when i don't recall – i'm not sure if it was at the end of day one or later.

Did you actually lose access, or was it simply locked?

i lost access.

[Elbirn]

kokichi didn't reveal IC

so i feel fine with lynching him today

you can't mislynch nicorobin while i'm alive.

I'm glad we're still on the same page friendo

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

[Gamma Emerald]

nsg lost access, every day a different set of people are in the hood

[northsidegal]

/when/ did i lose access

[Gamma Emerald]

End of Day 1
It was Chibi and Nico D2, and I’d rather keep the current people a secret for now if that’s fine

[Elbirn]

nsg lost access, every day a different set of people are in the hood

End of Day 1
It was Chibi and Nico D2, and I’d rather keep the current people a secret for now if that’s fine

Do you get to choose who is in the hood or is it randomized?

[Kokichi Oma]

I am town

[Elbirn]

I am town

What happened to your IC reveal bb?

[Not Known 15]

I think there is a good possibility that I was roleblocked Night 1 and 2 or even vannillaized Night 1.

[Gamma Emerald]

nsg lost access, every day a different set of people are in the hood

End of Day 1
It was Chibi and Nico D2, and I’d rather keep the current people a secret for now if that’s fine

Do you get to choose who is in the hood or is it randomized?

I selected an order pre-game and it selects the next 2 living players on the list post-nightkills

[Not Known 15]

I think now, that we could be already at MYLO/LYLO or are one day before LYLO(unless we lynch scum) it is high time that we do massclaims to see where we stand.
Most effective, in my opinion, would be a double massclaim via popcorn.
This is my proposal:
Someone begins - if needed that's me - and tells the others whom they visited, and what they know has happened to them(NO investigative results first round, except No Result). The last person in popcorn round 1 picks the first one to start round 2. In round 2, every townie gives their full true roleclaims(paraphrase, don't copy your role PM). This includes quests. Lying at this stage means lynch no matter what(except an IC reveal). Not saying everything is, in this occasion, lying.
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Reason for this? We already have at least one claim of a powerful role(PT investigator) and multiple half-claims(Neighbourizer variant and so on).
We are in a bad spot with no scum lynches and 1 No Lynch.
We have at least one event we all need clarity about(the Lynchproof on Nico Robin).
The double variant is more effective in catching liars.
This can clear things up. We should do it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Excuse me, WHO is PT investigator?

[Not Known 15]

why do you consider all of that hood town

I'll claim, then.

I have an ability which checks to see if my target is in any PT containing scum.

N1 I targeted RC. Nibbui, Elbirn, and myself initially believed I was redirected, but thanks to mutant we have reason to believe my initial RC target was accurate.
N2 I targeted Elbirn. mutantdevle's in the neighborhood now as well.

Both results were negative; no scum in any of target's PTs. This conftowns you and Gamma via RC, and mutant/Elbirn via Elbirn.
Ergo, we have a POE pool of four possible scum, and a mislynch to spare.

[northsidegal]

according to jjh i was removed on the turn of the second day rather than at night 1

[mutantdevle]

We are in a bad spot with no scum lynches and 1 No Lynch.

That no lynch doesn't technically count towards anything. It was basically a vig kill that we failed to get through and it has no impact on the number of mislynches we can afford.

And we're not in as bad of a position as you'd think. Kokichi is caught scum and we've managed to produce a townblock of 5. The PoE pool besides Kokichi is only 3 people and with a mislynch to spare we're headed towards a guaranteed victory. The only way I can see this going wrong is if there are somehow 3 kills in the night all on town.

[mutantdevle]

according to jjh i was removed on the turn of the second day rather than at night 1

Good. The inno result still counts for both you and Gamma then.

[Not Known 15]

That means... IF Succinct is town then the Mafia are Chibi, Kokichi(who lied with the IC claim) and Nico Robin.... let me check something... No there is something still wrong here.
ChibiBear and Kokichi Oma is an unlikely scenario. Either Succinct is lying or they were redirected or... or we have a godfather.
Because Nico+Kokichi/Chibi is entirely possible I cannot rule out Succinct being town and suffering from a godfather.
Succinct could also be mafia, and then all these clears are fake.

[Elbirn]

Okay so barring Succinct being a Slumlord 4D chess master the game is solved with the scum team being <Kokichi/NK15/Chibibear>

NSG can you confirm Nico as town? Because if you can then theres corroborating evidence and a larger town bloc and we dont even have to worry about a single mislynch, the game is solved and over and we just need to go through the motions of lynching them

Also I want the smart boi credit of knowing you were softing an innocent

[Elbirn]

That means... IF Succinct is town then the Mafia are Chibi, Kokichi(who lied with the IC claim) and Nico Robin.... let me check something... No there is something still wrong here.
ChibiBear and Kokichi Oma is an unlikely scenario. Either Succinct is lying or they were redirected or... or we have a godfather.
Because Nico+Kokichi/Chibi is entirely possible I cannot rule out Succinct being town and suffering from a godfather.
Succinct could also be mafia, and then all these clears are fake.

NK has fought valiantly but when you have to hypothesize about GodFathers in order to avoid pointing out that the PoE has fallen on you being the last puzzle piece you kinda have to know that you're fukt

Gg m8 this was a strange turn of events

[NicoRobin]

VOTE: Kokichi

This needs to go. I had bad experience with false ICs. Hint: they were mafia. Don't let this go.

[Not Known 15]

And if Succinct is truly that cop and they were not redirected then...
then there is an incredibly high chance that there is a godfather.
There is no way that this role is even remotely balanced without a godfather, since it can result in multiple clears.
Still, I doubt that there is more than one, so(from my viewpoint) there are two scum in Nico/Kokichi/Chibi and a godfather in mutant/elbirn/gamma/NSG... if Succinct is town.
I have very good reasons to distrust a Kokichi/Chibi team, which means that Nico is scum. This is entirely possible. Kokichi lied about IC - they confessed to it - so they are more likely the second scum... than Chibi. But then there is still the Godfather around, unless I am wrong about Chibi/Kokichi.

[Elbirn]

NK where's your vote at?

[Not Known 15]

NK has fought valiantly but when you have to hypothesize about GodFathers in order to avoid pointing out that the PoE has fallen on you being the last puzzle piece

No not really.
First of all, there is the possibility that I am the only town in the POE.... but I am pretty sure that I am not - due to reasons you won't buy(since they rely on me being town).
Second - there is no way that the mod lets a cop like this loose unchecked. That means that the claim is either fake or has a downside ... such as a Godfather.