It sucks then.
There is no autowin.
We actually have to work for reads today.
The problem with games that start well often ends up being the fact that there's very little to read into.
Game devolves into claims/claimed night-actions only.
So when we run out of those, we are suddenly dumbfounded.
I'm still thinking FF/SS, and since I have a bad habit of getting paranoid, I'm trying to get into a habit of tunneling instead..
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed." -Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
In post 1865, ChibiBear wrote:I had the chance to hammer way before anyone claimed any of that stuff. But like yeah SS seems real determined not to clear me so let's just keep going or whatever but I'm going to sleep soon
Yeah I should probably reread that part, it does sound familiar now that you mention it
But, you are right that I don't want to clear you. Even if you could have hammered before any actions were claimed, there's always the possibility that Lamees comes in during twilight and says "Wtf I confirmed myself to Chibi and she hammered me, instalynch her tomorrow."
And also... it's you or FF. And I really don't think it's FF. Even with bussing tactics considered, it's dumb to give up the trust that Tchill had... and I think Tchill played around FF's claim far too ineptly for it to be planned.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
Yeah I think I'm happy voting for SS today, it would make sense for him to be scum.
The conftown players seem to have all figured out that I'm town which means that as it is, we'll lynch FF and SS one today and one tomorrow which would guarantee a town win, so he needs to cast doubt on me and get me back into the lynching pool.
Yes. That is a post where I said stuff. What is your issue with me right now? I voted you because I don't think your play has been town. I think town you works more with me. Town you isn't so obstinate with me.
I am working with you, or trying.
You are kind of exasperating me in this one so far which whilst in line with town meta, is pretty frustrating.
Like you compared me with you Ex girlfriend for starters, whom unless she has a profile we can ISO shouldn't really be a factor in the thinking.... then proceeded to mention me negatively several times since...
Back on topic, I'm counting 4 TPRs, so whatdya wanna do about that?
So Invis dissapeared outta the game for 8 or 9 pages, then didn't post until after I'd given him a town!pass.
Upon re read I see Invis actually posted more than I recalled. At the time tho, I was sensing he became too focused on Short maybe??
Some posts appear Townie on the re read.
I put the FF interactions in there as they also seemed strange at the time. I cant tell If its because he didn't read chronologically before he replied to me or what but the sentiment was I came away not TRing FF as hard as I was expecting.
I have (redacted) with both, from which I can hand on heart tell you it could be Either fucking slot!
Chibi the way you were telling it it sounded like you completely shut down the prospect of lynching Lamees but it doesn't really look like that...
In post 181, ChibiBear wrote:I read it, and I also think it looks hella suspicious but I want to hear what Lamees has to say about it before she gets lynched. If her explanation is awful then we continue from there. Full on scum slipping 25 posts into a game would be hilarious but there's a chance we're misreading it or something.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
Um yeah what else was I supposed to do, just out her as a PR without her permission? I pushed multiple times against her lynch throughout that whole piasco.
Also at that point I didn't actually know why I received a pm stating that she was town since I received it with no context. I suspected that it was because she has some sort of PR but I had no way of being sure that it wasn't me who has some sort of unknown power or something since this setup is pretty confusing. All I knew what that I had to stop her from getting lynched without making me look too weird.
Since I knew for sure she was town all I needed to do was delay it until she came back to explain why she said what she did, obviously I would want to achieve that without outing the fact that I had extra information if it was avoidable.
In post 1881, Something_Smart wrote:Chibi the way you were telling it it sounded like you completely shut down the prospect of lynching Lamees but it doesn't really look like that...
In post 181, ChibiBear wrote:I read it, and I also think it looks hella suspicious but I want to hear what Lamees has to say about it before she gets lynched. If her explanation is awful then we continue from there. Full on scum slipping 25 posts into a game would be hilarious but there's a chance we're misreading it or something.
If I had said 'I don't think it looks suspicious at all' and then was unable to explain why I thought that (which I would not have been able to do since I did not in fact have any explanation as to why she said it) it would have made me look pretty freaking weird wouldn't it. I had to make myself sound reasonable, and it worked out.
I mean the pressure on her was because of something that was a typo but that looked like a slip... you could just say "that was obviously a typo, this push is dumb". That's what I would have done.
But it's pretty clear from your response that you do genuinely think that was the best town way to play it, which means it's something you would have done as either alignment.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
Because it didn't look like a typo to me? Kokichi actually made that exact argument and I think that it wasn't very good even though we were technically on the same side of the argument.
Well I've explained my entire thought process behind the situation, and I think that it should pretty clearly show that I am town. If you don't see it, then there's not much else I can do. But there's like a a more than 50% chance you're scum imo so I guess I don't expect you to.
The thing is, I don't see why you wouldn't act the same way as scum.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
I can see how your posts could come from a town mindset, sure. But that's only half of it.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
In a vacuum it could be either alignment. But Lamees was at L-1 at the time, and Chibi could have BSed a reason to vote.
Not sure if I trust your attempt to challenge a lockdown read.
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
I'll challenge whatever I want if I don't think it's sound, and I'm always correct to do so even if the conclusion turns out to be right.
Just because she COULD have acted a different way as scum doesn't mean she WOULD have. If scum-Chibi votes Lamees she's risking everything on the hope that (a) nobody saw Lamees visit her and (b) Lamees doesn't have time to claim her visit before the lock.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
"FF, you're a dick, but you don't hit below the belt. So you're a dick about finding scum, not hurting the people who are playing the game. That's acceptable dickary." MaryJoLisa
It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Chibi is clear based off play, I've come to that conclusion. Everyone else is a TR regardless of PR claim, except una, that's the only one I'm unsure of.
"FF, you're a dick, but you don't hit below the belt. So you're a dick about finding scum, not hurting the people who are playing the game. That's acceptable dickary." MaryJoLisa
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