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Taly it seems like your entire scumread of me is based on the fact that northsidegal had a stated weak townread on me and she never really fully elaborated on that read. idk about you but in most games I play I generally have a couple folks for whom I have no strong opinions at all regardless of alignment.
you also completely ignore my reads on nsg. that would be some pretty aggressive bussing from me as scum. bussing is pretty dangerous in this setup, and I'm not exactly the most eager to bus in general.- apthet
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Alright, seeing as I (and others) are asking a lot from me, I'll just go ahead and officially say I won't be that active until about Tuesday or Wednesday, when my whole traveling deal is over. I think it's better that way, as opposed to me continually not meeting promises to post.sometimes i want to rest- Trekkie99
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i just wantxyzzyandapthetto do something other than prodge
i mean, yeah, ive done better scum-cases before but im at least very confident in this townbloc:
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apthetbecause i think some points onxyzzycan be applied to her,northhad pretty ineffective interactions with her, but it never became a 1v1 like withTony, plusnorthpractically ignoredapthetreadwise herself
plus i seeenter/tony'sPOV with their recent posts on her
and i did not like thexyzzy/Enter"as long as they're lynched i can follow"post last page... town does not post these things unless they're actively going against their wincon.
we only have 1 scum left and she's putting up multiple options while completely bargaining herself to the jury later
- Shows that she's not confident in either option as scum, likely because she knows they're town at this point.
- Town should never want to be lynched, especially while putting up multiple lynch options, this is a scum-motivated WIFOM tactic
- Also her reads cannot be correct at all... there's one scum left, and she's expressing axyzzy/Enterlynch order ((which is actually similar to my reads on my FIRST few posts after thenorthflip))
i mean, tbh 243 alone makes me want to seeapthetlynched."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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I really don't know want to be "either x or y" but I can't see bothapthet/xyzzyas town. :/"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
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What do you like about it and why do you not think apthet is scum?In post 256, Trekkie99 wrote:Oof. Got quiet around here.
I can see Taly's read has some holes in it, but I like it a lot so I'm all for a xyzzy lynch.
Just going to VOTE: xyzzy so the jury can see.- schadd_
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apthet has been lynched ! she wastown- xyzzy
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apthet was a bad lynch (she wasn't like........ conf town but she was also not obvious scum) but honestly I don't know what the jury are even doing this game
my #1 scum read is still trekkie but pretty much since the end of day 2 message I've been acting under the assumption that that'll never happen. taly's sudden laser-focused tunnel on me feels like it could be scum realizing that he suddenly has to win this whole game alone and trying to find an easy target?
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you talked an awful lot about how bad this lynch was over the days of silence we had.In post 260, xyzzy wrote:apthet was a bad lynch (she wasn't like........ conf town but she was also not obvious scum) but honestly I don't know what the jury are even doing this game
my #1 scum read is still trekkie but pretty much since the end of day 2 message I've been acting under the assumption that that'll never happen. taly's sudden laser-focused tunnel on me feels like it could be scum realizing that he suddenly has to win this whole game alone and trying to find an easy target?
I don't know what to make of enter at all at this point tbh- Enter
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In post 233, Enter wrote:Xyzzy please post reads. It doesn't have to be long, but when you post, please share reasons for your three strongest reads. Also, if your three strongest reads agree with people who have recently posted/made a case about that person, please share any differences and similarities in your opinion and WHY.
Thank you.- Trekkie99
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It makes sense for all the reasons Taly has stated.In post 258, Enter wrote:What do you like about it
I said I thought she was mixed. And she was still mixed due to her hopping around on her read on you.In post 258, Enter wrote:and why do you not think apthet is scum?
Also, I'd like you to clarify your answer to this question.In post 241, Trekkie99 wrote:
Erm...In post 237, Enter wrote:Xyzzy is in my town reads because I like what Xyzzy has done this game when xyzzy has been a part of this game.
I want to know why your town reading him. is there a reason he's not at least in your mixed reads?- Trekkie99
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I would assume Enter still thinks I'm scum. Surely you must have some read on him?In post 260, xyzzy wrote:my #1 scum read is still trekkie
I don't know what to make of enter at all at this point tbh- Trekkie99
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He certainly looks a lot more scummy now.In post 263, Trekkie99 wrote:
It makes sense for all the reasons Taly has stated.In post 258, Enter wrote:What do you like about it
I said I thought she was mixed. And she was still mixed due to her hopping around on her read on you.In post 258, Enter wrote:and why do you not think apthet is scum?
Also, I'd like you to clarify your answer to this question.In post 241, Trekkie99 wrote:
Erm...In post 237, Enter wrote:Xyzzy is in my town reads because I like what Xyzzy has done this game when xyzzy has been a part of this game.
I want to know why your town reading him. is there a reason he's not at least in your mixed reads?
That's probably the best question to ask right now, TBH.In post 265, Trekkie99 wrote:I'm confused. Everyone still here had NSG to whatever extent in their scum reads. My best guess is at some point NSG's scum mate realized that NSG's lynch was inevitable and they jumped on the wagon. So the question iswho was lateto the party?
I honestly don't know how to answer it. You were slow to mention NSG scum read... but your response seemed genuine, as did xyzzy's. I still like Tony for Town. Taly is ... town for now because he directed a lot of attention towards NSG - even if you bus as scum, it's a pretty hard bus if you're trying to get other people to jump on that train. (which he wasn't, but directing attention towards someone is a good way to get them lynched a lot of the time.)- Trekkie99
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Yeah... I'm confident you're scum here. If this is your townplay then it seriously sucks.In post 260, xyzzy wrote:apthet was a bad lynch (she wasn't like........ conf town but she was also not obvious scum) but honestly I don't know what the jury are even doing this game
my #1 scum read is still trekkie but pretty much since the end of day 2 message I've been acting under the assumption that that'll never happen. taly's sudden laser-focused tunnel on me feels like it could be scum realizing that he suddenly has to win this whole game alone and trying to find an easy target?
I don't know what to make of enter at all at this point tbh
-You literally stated NOTHING about theapthetlynch until after-the-fact, so you can say it's "bad" and look perceptive.
- You've done nothing to push, entertain, or change your perspective onTrekkie, you just baselessly continued your thought there despite multiple pages of discussion on differing opinions aroundTrekkie'salignment.
-Nothing in your posts direct to any specific point I made on you being scum, you didn't even mention anNSG-associative-based read on either myself orTrekkie- your supposed scumreads.
-Your scumread on me is because of a "laser-tunnel" ??? Tunneling isn't NAI and the more you post the more valid I feel about my read. You didn't even give a concrete read on me either... Which reads as a fencesitting response that you can withhold in the hypothetical possibility I get lynched and you know I'll flip town.
-You are by no means"an easy target"xyzzy, I'm the only person that's actually PUSHED a scumread on you - after actually looking into your interactions and play - so I can fill in the holes within this game. The labels you place on my opinions here is only geared to minimize any suspicion placed on you.
If my scumread on you is completely irrational off the basis you deemed, then answer this:
- Why am I not scumreadingTrekkie? He's been the easiest-pushed lynch this entire game, your argument of being scum by trying to "just lynch" people is wrong.
- Why am I townreadingEnter? I disagree with his assessments but I still see a good wealth of town-motivation within him that's based on my interactions and view of his play.
At most points in this game, you've avoided to actually discuss it, and your response right here shows how much more invested you are in dividing the playerlist rather than gamesolving."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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how am I supposed to comment on something that hasn't happened yet?In post 268, Taly wrote:-You literally stated NOTHING about theapthetlynch until after-the-fact, so you can say it's "bad" and look perceptive.
the jury made it absolutely clear that they have zero interest in lynching Trekkie and that they don't really care that much what the rest of us think. focusing on Trekkie isn't a productive use of anyone's limited time.- You've done nothing to push, entertain, or change your perspective onTrekkie, you just baselessly continued your thought there despite multiple pages of discussion on differing opinions aroundTrekkie'salignment.
I don't tend to focus as hard on associative tells, because I know based on my own play that there's generally not really anything there. you're free to scumread me based on associative tells if you want, but the fact that I'm not doing the same thing isn't indicative of me being scum.-Nothing in your posts direct to any specific point I made on you being scum, you didn't even mention anNSG-associative-based read on either myself orTrekkie- your supposed scumreads.
you were high on my town list before the current day; there are a number of explanations for your sudden scumread on me, and one of those possible reasons is that you're scum.-Your scumread on me is because of a "laser-tunnel" ??? Tunneling isn't NAI and the more you post the more valid I feel about my read. You didn't even give a concrete read on me either... Which reads as a fencesitting response that you can withhold in the hypothetical possibility I get lynched and you know I'll flip town.
when I say I'm an easy target, I mean it was trivially easy for you to go into NSG's iso and pull out quotes that made me look like her possible partner.-You are by no means"an easy target"xyzzy, I'm the only person that's actually PUSHED a scumread on you - after actually looking into your interactions and play - so I can fill in the holes within this game. The labels you place on my opinions here is only geared to minimize any suspicion placed on you.
why, exactly, is it incumbent on me to answer for your reads?- Why am I not scumreadingTrekkie? He's been the easiest-pushed lynch this entire game, your argument of being scum by trying to "just lynch" people is wrong.
- Why am I townreadingEnter? I disagree with his assessments but I still see a good wealth of town-motivation within him that's based on my interactions and view of his play.- Trekkie99
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Saying the jury has "zero interest in lynching me" is another way to say the jury reads me as town, but in a negative light. And no, the "rest of us" is not those who agree with you in thinking I'm scum.the jury made it absolutely clear that they have zero interest in lynching Trekkie and that they don't really care that much what the rest of us think. - Trekkie99
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