Mini 2052: Downtown Train Mafia - Game Over!

[RCEnigma]

I'd do that but I'm too lazy.

Honestly I'll put my actual effort into this game tommorow and see why TGP is scummy or if I notice something else.

You had one job.

[Robert2424]

@Robert
From what you say, I gather you townread NSG, feel good about TGP and null read Bambi.

Am I your only scumread? Can you give reasons for your read or is it just level of activity? Who else do you scumread?

I honestly Feel better about TGP then past times.

What about TGP makes you feel better?

Any thoughts about others?

Your not really a scum read. I don't have any scum reads. If I had to choose somebody, I'd choose Bass, mainly for his aggressiveness but it doesn't mean scum. I voted you cause I had 0 notes on you, so I wanted activity and conversation, I got both. My main problem is my lack of a scum read. Though my day one reads are usually trash, having no reads doesn't bode well for me getting any better reads for the following days, therefore, I have to make something, even if its out of nothing, to get a read.

Activity is a contributing factor to my thoughts on anybody. I recently finished a game were scum laid behind the scenes while town tore itself apart. Before I was lynched, I figured out the remaining scum team, but my words fell on death ears. The slots committed nothing to the game but nobody seemed to care.

TGP the last game I played with him was very conservative and flipped anti, here he is opposite, course he could be trying to change his play style. Course I did hammer him too. Not sure if he was expecting me to do so, but yeah. Why my thoughts are on him right now.

[Robert2424]

Unvote

[TheGoldenParadox]

I apologize. I swear this has nothing to do with the game - I'm going through a rough patch in life right now and can't play a lot until Monday.

@mod V/LA until Monday

Noted ~ LA

[northsidegal]

i'm leaning town on robert

[Amor]

Can you expand on that?

[northsidegal]

it's kind of a lazy read, i suppose

i guess i townread his relative lack of direction as well as his lack of real scumreads, kind of as shown in these posts:

I'm still here, just mainly stumped.

Your not really a scum read. I don't have any scum reads. If I had to choose somebody, I'd choose Bass, mainly for his aggressiveness but it doesn't mean scum. I voted you cause I had 0 notes on you, so I wanted activity and conversation, I got both. My main problem is my lack of a scum read. Though my day one reads are usually trash, having no reads doesn't bode well for me getting any better reads for the following days, therefore, I have to make something, even if its out of nothing, to get a read.

Activity is a contributing factor to my thoughts on anybody. I recently finished a game were scum laid behind the scenes while town tore itself apart. Before I was lynched, I figured out the remaining scum team, but my words fell on death ears. The slots committed nothing to the game but nobody seemed to care.

TGP the last game I played with him was very conservative and flipped anti, here he is opposite, course he could be trying to change his play style. Course I did hammer him too. Not sure if he was expecting me to do so, but yeah. Why my thoughts are on him right now.

i

imagine

that scum would have someone that they would be voting, even if they weren't really scumreading them and never talked about their scumreads (i.e. naked voting people, sheeping wagons and the like)

i also like that apparently he's taking notes, although that may have just been a figure of speech

[northsidegal]

so i guess my townreads right now are {bambi, robert, amor, rcenigma}
maybe brass, maybe darth vader.

i know i strongly townread darth vader earlier but i would very much like them to post more and don't feel comfortable with them not doing so. that being said, i understand that auro is probably busy and this is a low activity game, along with dva having maybe siteflaked? seems like she hasn't logged on for a little bit.

[Lady Angel]

Votecount:

Robert2424: 1 (Allomancer)

TheGoldenParadox: 4 (Bambi Jay, Brassherald, Northsidegal, Darth Vader) L-2

Munchmellow: 1 (TheGoldenParadox)
Bambi Jay: 1 (Amor)
Brassherald: 1 (Munchmellow)

Not Voting: RCEnigma, Robert2424

Leading Wagons are in bold.

With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

The following players have yet to post and will be prodded if they do not post before the next votecount: Allomancer, Brassherald, Darth Vader, Munchmellow,

TheGoldenParadox is V/LA until monday.

Day 1 ends on Wednesday, January 23rd at 6:00 PM PST, or 8 days, 23 hours and 43 minutes from this post.

[Darth Vader]

I haven't site flaked but I've been letting Auro stay in front.

I actually like this wagon right now and mostly just want to push it through, maybe with RCE and Munch? -D

[northsidegal]

do you townread munch?

[Darth Vader]

Moreso than Amor or Allo, right now -D

[northsidegal]

could you go a little bit into why?

also, why are you letting auro take front stage mostly? after the coalition, i haven't gotten to play a game with town!you yet.

maybe you're... scared i'll catch you?

[Allomancer]

With that I'll say I'm not a big fan of meta. I assume anyone I play with is self aware enough to somewhat replicate their town game and don't find scum meta a good measure in games or playerlists that don't have any correlation.

Hence indirect. But I agree the reactions from Bambi are poor, though Allo's don't feel townie either.

One scum is better than none.

VOTE: Bambi Jay

Makes a case on me a few posts earlier, votes Bambi with no reasoning attached.
If scum can always replicate a town game, scumhunting would therefore be useless? Bad logic is bad.

That guy also said the previous statement prematurely. Pretty sure I just want Allomancer to be the lynch today. I still don't like your reactions. Allomancer flipping scum would just make me even more sure that you're scum. Even your fos at TGP is weak, he's been picking mostly at you in a majority of his posts. Feels like you're omgusing him right now.

Not sure why him specifically though.

Wants to lynch me, still voting Bambi at this point.

Looking through RCE's ISO, I pulled the most standout posts, but there seems to be a general trend of self-contradiction and do as i say, not as i do.
VOTE: RCEnigma

[Allomancer]

If scum can always replicate a town game, scumhunting would therefore be useless? Bad logic is bad.

This should be up above in response to the first quote, sorry.

[Darth Vader]

Eh sorry, I've not been posting much in all of my games, sorta lost motivation in general :$ I'll make more of an effort.

Wanted this to be a teaching Hydra initially so DVa took the backseat and let me post and call the shots mostly, but yeah I think it makes sense if she lays down her opinions directly in the thread as well.

I'll read the game and get back into it soon

~Auro

[Darth Vader]

Makes a case on me a few posts earlier, votes Bambi with no reasoning attached.
If scum can always replicate a town game, scumhunting would therefore be useless? Bad logic is bad.

His assertion is that scumhunting purely reliant on meta isn't quite useful, not scumhunting as a whole. You're misinterpreting his logic here.

Wants to lynch me, still voting Bambi at this point.

He transparently, repeatedly says he wants to lynch you, he voted Bambi Jay because there was a wagon there and the others weren't up for voting Allomancer.

This change your mind?

~Auro

[northsidegal]

there are too many people for whom i have very light reasons to townread unless the scumteam is like literally TGP/Munchmellow

[Darth Vader]

I think you have way too many townreads though. Is Munch a PoE for you?

~Auro

[RCEnigma]

With that I'll say I'm not a big fan of meta. I assume anyone I play with is self aware enough to somewhat replicate their town game and don't find scum meta a good measure in games or playerlists that don't have any correlation.

Hence indirect. But I agree the reactions from Bambi are poor, though Allo's don't feel townie either.

One scum is better than none.

VOTE: Bambi Jay

Makes a case on me a few posts earlier, votes Bambi with no reasoning attached.
If scum can always replicate a town game, scumhunting would therefore be useless? Bad logic is bad.

That guy also said the previous statement prematurely. Pretty sure I just want Allomancer to be the lynch today. I still don't like your reactions. Allomancer flipping scum would just make me even more sure that you're scum. Even your fos at TGP is weak, he's been picking mostly at you in a majority of his posts. Feels like you're omgusing him right now.

Not sure why him specifically though.

Wants to lynch me, still voting Bambi at this point.

Looking through RCE's ISO, I pulled the most standout posts, but there seems to be a general trend of self-contradiction and do as i say, not as i do.
VOTE: RCEnigma

Unfortunately the early wagon on you means slot probably aren't going to come back to voting you. I made the case for you AND Bambi so voting Bambi when your wagon broke down isn't a stretch.

The fact your wagon broke down arbitrarily should tell town something but to each their own.

[northsidegal]

I think you have way too many townreads though. Is Munch a PoE for you?

~Auro

yeah what i was saying that was that munch would be like among the two people whom i have just no reasons at all to townread

[northsidegal]

i guess (assuming the scumteam

isn't

TGP/Munch — i would laugh if it was) this game will be an interesting exercise in seeing which of my reasons to townread people are unreliable

[Darth Vader]

I know it's in your ISO, but for the sake of clarity could you just list reasons for your townreads concisely in a single post? I'll do that too in a while, I do feel TGP/Munch is too easy a solve

~Auro

[northsidegal]

robert i just talked about in 281

dv for ~reasons~

amor i described as his trajectory, which looking back on it looks like a reason i'm categorically likely to be wrong on and i'm not sure i should trust in

rcenigma meta, i don't feel i'm likely to be wrong here

allo said that he was excited at the start of this game and by default i assume people like playing town more than scum, perhaps especially someone who doesn't play mafia much. i also townread 190. although, looking at 189 makes me feel something that i want to elaborate on later.

bambi i've talked about

brass again for vague ~reasons~, i also think 270 is pretty town-indicative. maybe.

[northsidegal]

@Allo, what's your read on bambi?