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[Pine]

I did re-evaluate. The re-evaluation found the original reason to be bad, but the secondary reasons damning.

I’ve been clear about this, and I don’t appreciate you misrepping me so boldly

[Arkham Asylum]

Are we scum because you want to turn everything into a personality conflict and anyone who gives you criticism about your play is scum or is there scum because you actually see a scum agenda in our play?

People who are capable of solving but *choose* to throw tantrums I tend to scumread, and right now this looks more like a selective tantrum than a genuine scumread.

This is particularly rich given that you pretty clearly wanted to lynch Boon off personality rather than scumtells. I've seen you play town and that level of making everything a personality conflict seems to be opposed to your capacity for highly analytic reasoning.

I get that this game has drifted into dumpster fire territory on occasion and I can be pretty hostile when someone I think is town is throwing a fake guilty at us but it's basically not okay for you to hide behind "AA said I would have to be stupid to be making this vote" as a reason to scumread us, because let's be real, it was a really fucking obviously fake guilty and buying it--given I have seen your townplay--is really suspect.

I didn't hate your VT claim though ngl, you might be town but you need to take a step back if you are town.

-Kat

[Arkham Asylum]

I did re-evaluate. The re-evaluation found the original reason to be bad, but the secondary reasons damning.

I’ve been clear about this, and I don’t appreciate you misrepping me so boldly

No, if you were actually town here, you should at least be reconsidering your vote in light of my bringing those blatantly obvious clues to your attention.

The only thing preventing me from switching our vote to you is BS insistence that DEB’s role was fake and not confitowning us due to Dann save. If you believe DEB’s role is bs, then it makes no sense not to believe Dann saved us from the NK.

But your post was so over the top scummy, I’m not sure what to do. Unless you or someone else can convince me you’re actually being just stupid town, your last post reads like pure confibiasing, because town!you should at least be pretending to re-evaluate here, instead - you’re just apparently obtusely doubling down with absolutely no reflection whatsoever.

~HQ

[Arkham Asylum]

Yay! Now FL gets to condescend to and insult the dead thread!

Like look at this post, and think about how boon, if town, responds to it Pine.

So you yourself made it seem like you were lynching boon, or supporting lynching boon, because of personality reasons which--if boon is town, which he probably was--is something that is likely to set him off.

If he was town, and was set off--due to you basically saying you lynched him because you don't like him--then why the fuck would you think he would not throw out a fake guilty in the dead thread?

So the massive dissonance between your own play, and how you think boon would react to your play, and your apparent reasoning is really jarring to me here.

You can't both say you dislike boon for being condescending and then also say you are voting us for giving you shit and also gamethrow (if town) due to personality conflicts.

-Kat

[Pine]

Wtf? When have I ever turned things into a personality conflict? Boon wasn’t about personality, it was about him not acting to his Town meta. I am making the rational observation that your behavior (or more likely your more volatile hydramates) responded with classic scum flailing when accused, attacking anyone and everything they could plausibly go after.

The initial accusation was bullshit. I was too distracted with camp to recognize that.

My observations are entirely independent of that.

Besides, I’m not making an argument to you; you’re scum. I’m making an argument to the rest of the players.

Even the “hey c’mon, you’re just confused town” thing you’re doing is classic scum recovery tactics. I am not one to be flattered with “you’re better than this” or threatened into submission. Your mates gave up it up when they flailed, and that’s not going to change.

[Pine]

1602 had nothing to do with my case on Boon, don’t even pretend that shit.

[Arkham Asylum]

OK, and why are we supposed to believe that you are not trying to recover from being baited by boon's fake guilty? Right now how am I supposed to separate your play from scum that got caught in a reaction test and is now trying to downplay it?

-Kat

[Arkham Asylum]

1602 had nothing to do with my case on Boon, don’t even pretend that shit.

Sure, but how do you think Boon would respond to that when he enters the dead thread? My problem is that you put zero thought into how Boon would respond to being lynched as either alignment but took a claim from him at face value. That is jarringly at odds with your town play in other games, even when you are distracted.

-Kat

[Pine]

OK, and why are we supposed to believe that you are not trying to recover from being baited by boon's fake guilty? Right now how am I supposed to separate your play from scum that got caught in a reaction test and is now trying to downplay it?

-Kat

Consistency is the difference. Recovery would be blaming it all on the fake guilty and disavowing my position. I’m standing by it and giving original thought here.

1602 had nothing to do with my case on Boon, don’t even pretend that shit.

Sure, but how do you think Boon would respond to that when he enters the dead thread? My problem is that you put zero thought into how Boon would respond to being lynched as either alignment but took a claim from him at face value. That is jarringly at odds with your town play in other games, even when you are distracted.

-Kat

I don’t give a shit how he’d respond. I still think he may be scum.

I hate flipless. I want to know if I was right.

I’m done engaging with you tonight. It’s past 11 and Pinecone won’t sleep. Driving her around the countryside with her now.

[Arkham Asylum]

And you have to discredit. That’s why there’s so many differing opinions on my slot until it’s convenient for it not to be coming from your hydra.

You’re just a scum slot.

I can’t prove it. There’s no case for it

, but you’re a scum slot. I’m not gonna be able to convince anyone with that, but it’s simple as that.

FL acknowledging he has no fake guilty.

~H

[Arkham Asylum]

AtE and excuses won’t get you tr Pine.

~H

[Pine]

Sorry, one more thing. I didn’t realize the claim was from Boon at first. Hurried reading. Later it didn’t matter because it looked like it was getting a scum reaction, and now it’s irrelevant because my reasons are my own.

PE: Get the fuck out of here with that shit. That post is from the previous game day, the fake guilty is from today. At least make your bullshit defensible.

[Pine]

I never AtE this bluntly. I have a screaming toddler, you can fuck right off.

[Pine]

—DONE—

[Arkham Asylum]

Have a nice drive Pine, hope Pinecone gets some good rest

-Kat

[Arkham Asylum]

Man wish the smilie on this site didn't look so damn creepy :/

-Kat

[CheekyTeeky]

one of the VT claims is scum, town needs more power than just Egix's nonsense.

You need to rethink this reasoning in your thread.
I'm pretty sure there is scum in the VTs regardless.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Sorry, one more thing. I didn’t realize the claim was from Boon at first. Hurried reading. Later it didn’t matter because it looked like it was getting a scum reaction, and now it’s irrelevant because my reasons are my own.

PE: Get the fuck out of here with that shit. That post is from the previous game day, the fake guilty is from today. At least make your bullshit defensible.

I never AtE this bluntly. I have a screaming toddler, you can fuck right off.

If you seriously think that I’ve never been sworn at by scum, think again.

And no one was referencing your kid wrt to the excuses but hey, nice misrep anyway.

[Arkham Asylum]

Sorry, one more thing. I didn’t realize the claim was from Boon at first. Hurried reading. Later it didn’t matter because it looked like it was getting a scum reaction, and now it’s irrelevant because my reasons are my own.

PE: Get the fuck out of here with that shit. That post is from the previous game day, the fake guilty is from today. At least make your bullshit defensible.

I never AtE this bluntly. I have a screaming toddler, you can fuck right off.

If you seriously think that I’ve never been sworn at by scum, think again.

And no one was referencing your kid wrt to the excuses but hey, nice misrep anyway.

Btw, I’m fucking sick rn, so you can take your own braindead assholish advice, tyvm!

[Egix96]

Don't mind me, just checking that my PFP hasn't been corrupted.
@Pine @Asylum, yours have.

[Arkham Asylum]

Avatar is displaying fine for me? What do you mean?

-Kat

[Egix96]

It works now. Nvm

[Egix96]

It was showing as a blank box with a blue square in the centre (on iPad that basically means missing image) but it seems that was just a temporary site hiccup.

[Chickadee]

Very uninvested with everything that's still going on. The guilty was fake, we're not lynching AA. Let's all move on.

Could everyone work on a POE list? (I can do that same but won't get to it until tonight after game night or more realistically tomorrow) If there is a common denominator we can take it from there, talk it over, make a plan of action. I do think we need the last few claims first, because most people are claimed anyway.

[Jingle]

I believe I have a replacement lined up, just checking on something before they receive their role PM.