Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[Detective Pikachu]

There are a few points there that aren't insinuating you might not be confirmed town. I would love to hear your thoughts on them!

I'd rather wait for someone to actually push me for scum so that I can lynch them. I'd love an easy scumclaim.

[Detective Pikachu]

Gamma, RedPanda and ???

I think you're still in my bottom three but I'm willing to reconsider

I townread Mena, Klick, and Creature

So not in those three or DP I guess

This is a better post than your entire iso, Klick.

Your accusation of "empty" posting really holds up well when I put this in relief against your incredible push against ofrhz:

Also, in light of 'bizarre overreactions' to pressure being a scumtell, I present the following posts:

VOTE: Detective Pikachu

If you're just going to talk in 'Pika-pika!'s all day, we have no choice but to policy lynch you.

Here's one advice: we gotta start acting early if we want to have a shot of winning as town here.

Town that take too long to react tend to lose.

[citation needed]

Seriously, this has probably been said in every game I've popped my head into in the past five years, and I've seen no evidence that there's credit to it. We're here to have fun! It's been less than a day, there's nothing to be worried about just yet.

Though my vote on Detective Pikachu was semi-serious, and I'll give a cookie to the first person who can tell me why.

Can you see why I might have gotten an early scumread on DP based on their posting thus far?

Sorry: I have a light scumread on Detective Pikachu. Can you spot why?

Hello, partner!

VOTE: Klick

I like the memes of this list but I am also sad because I wanted to play with Dr Worm

I know it was RVS, but can you talk to me about why you decided to vote me here, Pikachu? Because your post doesn't have a reason, silly or otherwise.

Hello, partner!

VOTE: Klick

I like the memes of this list but I am also sad because I wanted to play with Dr Worm

I know it was RVS, but can you talk to me about why you decided to vote me here, Pikachu? Because your post doesn't have a reason, silly or otherwise.

This is why I have a scumread on Pikachu.

I'd rather get any response from Pikachu before laying all my cards on the table!

I voted you because a wagon with three votes is more interesting than a wagon with two votes.

Then why not say this at the time? I found your vote odd because there was zero explanation behind it. It seemed like it was placed with the intent of drawing no attention, as opposed to starting discussion.

VOTE: Klick

No worries

Pikachu's my best lead atm. His response to my pressure hasn't been a good look.

Your pressure being you spamming the thread asking someone on v/la why they voted you in rvs? That's not pressure that's fluffposting. You've basically been exclusively asking me one pointless question that has an obvious answer.

Oh wait, that's not you pushing your scumread, that's you wallposting bullshit to fuck with mech town

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

[Micc]

Votecount 2.09

ofrhz (4) -

Klick, RedPanda, Chemist1422, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (4) -

Menalque, ofrhz, Detective Pikachu, Pink Ball

Menalque (1) -

Creature

Not Voting (2) -

Pine, EspressoPatronum

With 11 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-07-19 09:05:00).

Klick has requested replacement.

[Chemist1422]

hi

I have another 8+-hour thing today but I'm going to at least get started on backreading

[Pink Ball]

Wow, Klick showing true colors last page

[Pink Ball]

But he's repping out and I liked him

[RedPanda]

zzz u guys

[Detective Pikachu]

He decided that making a wallpost that reminded me of how annoying I find him was a good idea while he was trying to AtE me out of a scumread.

Klickslot/mena/pb/creature are all town

Townblock of 5 is an 11 player game should usually be fine for day 2

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm ok with Gamma today, he's the most annoying of the scumteam that's for sure

Btw why don't you put your vote where your mouth is
Bitch

'Cause I still think you're protecting your PR partner.

Rude. I'm bitchin'.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

This is Pokemon Ruby, pal, not Emerald.

You spent last page talking about why Chemist was a better lynch than Gamma. Why switch here?

Because I dared him to.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma is ignoring mech,

Is this in regards to not thinking you're confirmed town? Because I basically agree with what he's said there.

failing to solve for town,

I mean, this is blatantly false and if I were at a computer I could show you several quotes that shut this down. Just read through Gamma's ISO.

and exhibiting bizarre overreactions to a range of people pushing him.

'bizarre overreactions'? What specifically are you seeing that you find scummy there?

I don't really have a problem seeing him as scum, and he's refusing to join on chemist which would be the next best candidate for scum to me right now.

Why do you think Chemist is scum?

As for "lazy lynch" ofrhz is basically absent from the thread and is almost universally pushed in every game she is in always. So who exactly is pushing a "lazy" lynch here? Oh wait, that's right, that's Gamma's top scumread, the one with the case you're in love with.

I don't think I've said a word about Gamma's case on ofrhz?
Feel free to engage with my own reasoning for voting ofrhz, though. Or Gamma's for that matter.

I don't feel so good about Klick now. They're taking something I already regret and pushing it like gospel. DP is most likely confirmed town here. Rn I only have one possible doubt and it might get disproved here.

@Mod: if a town loyal PR targets scum and a watcher targets the same scum, would the watcher so the loyal PR's action?

[Detective Pikachu]

@Mod: if a town loyal PR targets scum and a watcher targets the same scum, would the watcher so the loyal PR's action?

They would. So if scumteam has a scum watcher, and they watched me and saw the visit, the same night that 'we' killed Tim, then I could theoretically fake a PT. I think you've identified just about the only scenario where I would successfully fake a neighborization, but it does require one fairly uncommon scum role and some pretty insane luck for the scum team.

[EspressoPatronum]

@Mod: if a town loyal PR targets scum and a watcher targets the same scum, would the watcher so the loyal PR's action?

They would. So if scumteam has a scum watcher, and they watched me and saw the visit, the same night that 'we' killed Tim, then I could theoretically fake a PT. I think you've identified just about the only scenario where I would successfully fake a neighborization, but it does require one fairly uncommon scum role and some pretty insane luck for the scum team.

I think he's asking from a town watcher perspective.

ie. Does townwatcher!Gamma see loyalneighborizer!Tim targeting scum!DP.

[EspressoPatronum]

@Mod: if a town loyal PR targets scum and a watcher targets the same scum, would the watcher so the loyal PR's action?

They would. So if scumteam has a scum watcher, and they watched me and saw the visit, the same night that 'we' killed Tim, then I could theoretically fake a PT. I think you've identified just about the only scenario where I would successfully fake a neighborization, but it does require one fairly uncommon scum role and some pretty insane luck for the scum team.

I think he's asking from a town watcher perspective.

ie. Does townwatcher!Gamma see loyalneighborizer!Tim targeting scum!DP.

But I suppose your answer doesn't change if the watcher is scum or town.

[Micc]

@Mod: if a town loyal PR targets scum and a watcher targets the same scum, would the watcher [see] the loyal PR's action?

No. The Loyal PR's action would be treated as if it was Roleblocked, causing it to not be visible to the Watcher.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mod: if a town loyal PR targets scum and a watcher targets the same scum, would the watcher so the loyal PR's action?

They would. So if scumteam has a scum watcher, and they watched me and saw the visit, the same night that 'we' killed Tim, then I could theoretically fake a PT. I think you've identified just about the only scenario where I would successfully fake a neighborization, but it does require one fairly uncommon scum role and some pretty insane luck for the scum team.

I think he's asking from a town watcher perspective.

ie. Does townwatcher!Gamma see loyalneighborizer!Tim targeting scum!DP.

No? That was clearly indicating a scumWatcher possibility

[Micc]

Prodding ofrhz and Pine.

[Detective Pikachu]

No. The Loyal PR's action would be treated as if it was Roleblocked, causing it to not be visible to the Watcher.

Interesting. So for me to be scum, there would actually be no way to know who Tim targeted. The only way to fake a PT then would be for scum to have a roleblocker and roleblock Tim the same night they kill him, on night 1. Let me know if that's a scenario you want to play around

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I don't think that makes sense.

[ofrhz]

Votecount 2.09

ofrhz (4) -

Klick, RedPanda, Chemist1422, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (4) -

Menalque, ofrhz, Detective Pikachu, Pink Ball

Menalque (1) -

Creature

Not Voting (2) -

Pine, EspressoPatronum

With 11 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-07-19 09:05:00).

Klick has requested replacement.

Sorry about the prod >_<

[ofrhz]

I feel better about menalque town and am cooling on gamma

Still prefer this though

VOTE: pink

I've been paranoid about them since the game started but I think he's not top priority.

If we agree that lynches should be in {ofrhz, Chemist, Menalque, RedPanda} I think we're into something. And by lynches I mean not only today. Of course we revaluate if we are wrong but I think that's a solid lynch pool, because of the townbloc that is implied with that. If we lynch Chemist and he flips scum I would trade ofrhz for another player, but more into that later.

This is pretty good but let’s not lynch me first

I’d vote gamma over menalque atp but pine needs to post more before we end the day

VOTE: gamma

I'm struggling to see your reads progression tbh.

I looked at some of Cinnamon's games in between is pretty much what happened there

[Detective Pikachu]

I looked at some of Cinnamon's games in between is pretty much what happened there

which ones?

[ofrhz]

Newbie 1934 and Mini 2081

[ofrhz]

I see that he's finished 1940, but I think that was still ongoing at the time. I don't remember reading it?

[ofrhz]

What's interesting is at this point I'd say offers' read flip on me makes less sense than Klick's
In post 1450, ofrhz wrote:
VOTE: gamma

I agree with PB's 1652 that this vote comes at a time that makes it rather scummy

futurama fry

[Detective Pikachu]

Only you would know what you did or didn't read

So you saw something that made you agree more with Mena?