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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:12 pm

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nice write up :D
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:12 pm

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I regret nothing, please release the scum PT in it's full glory
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:14 pm

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Achievement Unlocked - Shoot and kill both masons!
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:20 pm

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I'm sad Carl's gambit didn't pay off.

So close :D
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:28 pm

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Persivul, I fully
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the flavour here! Thanks for nodding!

Gg all, I think scum would have had this if TD hadn’t shot FF. Despite my teasing, lots of respect to you icon for not conceding, and more now that I know you were informed of what happened re: Gandalf and the PM.

Gandalf — I didn’t think you meant anything by the PM, but I know outside communication is forbidden, which is why I reported it to Persivul straight away and didn’t respond to you.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:30 pm

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This was fun, but I don’t like that it can be auto after 1 night (or more or less auto if there’s more than 1 scum left)

I’d definitely be interested in playing again if there’s a way to get around that design-wise
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:31 pm

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In post 1130, Menalque wrote:This was fun, but I don’t like that it can be auto after 1 night (or more or less auto if there’s more than 1 scum left)

I’d definitely be interested in playing again if there’s a way to get around that design-wise
You mean 'wow this game went to D2'
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:33 pm

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Oh, and my bad on asking for copy pasting from the mason thread. That was because I just finished a game where someone copy pasted (and didn’t use the site quote function) a series of posts from the neighbourhood in game. As there was no reprimand there, I assumed that the way to interpret the rule about quoting private communication only applied to actually using the quote function. I’ll make sure to check with individual mods in the future.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:34 pm

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Once released, the mafia pt should provide an entertaining read

here's a
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preview

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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:56 pm

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gg


Props to Tiphaine for taking that shot on FF, could've been a completely different end otherwise. The breaking strat still should've worked though I guess, since we just pair everyone together and don't put Icon and FF in the same pair, while Gandalf barricades.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:58 pm

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In post 1133, Iconeum wrote:Once released, the mafia pt should provide an entertaining read

here's a
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Looking forward to reading through that lol, want to see you guys come up with this gambit.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:10 am

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My god icon, that mafia thread killed me— both in a getting shot sense, but also those memes were hilarious :lol:
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:16 am

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In post 1136, Menalque wrote:My god icon, that mafia thread killed me— both in a getting shot sense, but also those memes were hilarious :lol:
the one where i hit the wall is now broken for me, is it for you?
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:21 am

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You mean #167? Sadly yes :(
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:26 am

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So yeah in short, I knew very well what I was getting into when I counterclaimed :D
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:33 am

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Hahaha, yeah, I realise

I liked the orbital lasers touch

I added the humongous amounts of prejudice for your death ;)
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:34 am

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I loved how Tet got himself killed as well :D

Just a few more wild shots away from pulling this off...
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:39 am

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I was wondering if anyone would be so confident in everyone’ else sticking to the plan that they’d just shoot where they wanted, I guess the answer to that is yes haha
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:43 am

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Well, that's one of the reasons why I didn't concede. You just never know.

And i'm serious when I say don't trust town to do the townie things
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:44 am

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Great game, all! That was hilariously chaotic.

@Percivul thanks for running it!
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:59 am

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@percivul
, /pre in me for your next run of this please

What if strongman obtains the ability to barricade when last surviving scum?
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:41 am

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I'll pre-in too pls


I'm not sure that would be enough would it? I mean in that situation you wouldn't counter claim (cause you'd still lose everyone shooting between the two of you) so we'd know the mason claim was real

he'd barricade, we'd all shoot, you'd again have the dilemma of either killing the mason and being shot by the person shooting you, shooting the person shooting you and the mason living, or barricading and losing the 2v1 vote to strand the next day
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:52 am

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also I can't believe the entire mafia team was 1942 :lol:
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:58 am

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In post 1147, Menalque wrote:also I can't believe the entire mafia team was 1942 :lol:
i thought i was being rolled
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:00 am

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Let's work through the idea of last surviving scum gains 1X passive BP.

If 1 scum and 1 mason and the circle kill idea is used, all that's left is the mason (or the person the scum was supposed to target) and the scum. Scum wins. So, that break is fixed by adding the BP.

If 2 masons, then 2 town plus the scum are alive and scum loses.
Question: is this necessarily a flaw? Point being that town gets down to a single scum with both their masons still alive, don't they deserve to win?

If 2 scum, pairs are used, 1 mason is odd man out and barricades, scum aren't paired together: the scum SM dies, but scum goon is saved by BP. 1 town is left alive. Scum win.

If 2 scum, pairs are used, 2 masons barricade, scum aren't paired together: 2 town and a scum are together, scum lose.

So, no, the addition of BP by itself doesn't solve it.

Maybe the solution is to just remove the masons? The idea was that the masons gave town the chance to coordinate a 2-shot kill and potnetially take out a barricaded scum, but they never seem to get used for that anyway. If they provide a breaking strategy, maybe we just get rid of them.
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