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[Morning Tweet]

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2185-2189 - Does GL really flip on skitter like that if the team is GL/Eve?

i feel very strongly that this is a scum-driven wagon and that we ought to be lynching eve today

i'm roughly here:

gl > titus hydra > limit > atarashi > bbmolla > eve

gl can you answer this: who exactly is my partner here?

Interesting skitts doesn't have BB and Limit as the consensus townreads and trusts GL/Titus above all else. More or less a omgus on BB being scum with eve. I'm not sure if skitts is demotivatedish town or just scum

right, i've put this out there several times but none of the people pushing me have addressed it:

- my actions don't make sense as partners with titus
- nobody has a credible partner theory for me other than titus

so like ... who am i even scum with?
what has scum!me been doing all game
scum!me does not explain how this phase and the last one have played out really

the people pushing me have not addressed or answered these points

I find myself asking this quite a bit. Skitts with Eve is certainly odd. I forget why her actions don't make sense with Titus ill have to recheck that

Why did we lynch acryon?

I need to go back and look at who was responsible for that mess and murderize them.

-Smart

Please no!

I see that GL is feeling it might be Karnage/Eve on page 91. That's not correct no, but Eve/somebody is something that has been very on my mind. Could it be with a busser (IE Titus)? Could also see Titus/skitts though.

I feel like from an outsiders perspective I might have considered Atara with Eve like GL does. Not really sure why Atara is obvtown to Titus

[Eve]

will shark not be joining us Titus? i was looking forward to meeting them!

[Morning Tweet]

I made it to the present!! I'm a real player now

It does seem really weird that Limit wasn't killed when Limit is UTR and nigh unlynchable, but Limit hasn't really been steering towards Eve or Atari either. Maybe scum wanted other townies to pick up the Skitter torch in place of Auro to make them dirtier for a 5p LYLO of Eve/Atari/Titus/GL/Molla, feels like almost anyone is lynchable there

I'm stewing over a Titus/Eve scumteam where they mislynch skitts into mislynching maybe GL or Atara tomorrow (if atara had stayed anyway). Skitts mislynch today is pretty easy, then they use GL to lynch Atara-Karnage or maybe the thread just turns on GL/Eve and they lynch the both of them, also winning for scum

Starting to feel like we're thinking about this pretty similarly

End of D2:
Eve, Auro >> skitts
Titus, Skitts, Crayon,

(Auro)

>> Eve
Titus >> GuiltyLion
BB, Limit >> Titus
Atara >> Crayon

Auro wanted skitts mostly but was willing to maybe compromise on Eve.

If it's Titus/Eve then perhaps they felt the bus was necessary to get one of them back in good graces. If it's Titus/skitts though, then it definitely make sense that Titus would be pushing Eve today.

Now that I'm reading it thru, it seemed like BB and Limit actually wanted Titus (?) Why'd you vote skitts off the bat with Eve

@BB

?

[Eve]

why do you townread BBmolla and aren't considering him with any teams Morning?

[skitter30]

the nightkill points simultaneously towards skitter scum and me town

like come on seriously

no, it doesn't

it's mostly that the team solves with skitter don't make a lot of sense whereas you/Karnage is suddenly making a ton of sense

also I so desperately just wanna be right about my vanity Karnage scumread

yes, thank you

[skitter30]

Morning Tweet replaces Atarashi Hajimari.

Prodding BBmolla.

hello!

[Eve]

why doesn't it?

[Morning Tweet]

why do you townread BBmolla and aren't considering him with any teams Morning?

He reads as towny to me on the surface

His votes have been in the right place too. Mostly Skitts and Titus, I think GL once.. Didn't get distracted by crayon even when his townread Auro wanted it the other day (I prolly would have done the same and not voted Crayon).

I have more town reasons for him while I was reading thru d1 in 2300. I want him and Limit to be my town block and i will b very upset if one of them betrays me.

pedit: Hi skitts!!!!! Right now I'm investigating Skitts/Titus and I think there was reasoning for that team not being the case I just need to remember what it was

[skitter30]

there's no substance to this

watch i can do this too - skitter is scum because:
-my best best for scum on the nom wagon
-dislike killing of Auro
-dislike her push on me too

easy

i mean this is a pretty easy way to discredit what i said, but sure

[skitter30]

pedit: Hi skitts!!!!! Right now I'm investigating Skitts/Titus and I think there was reasoning for that team not being the case I just need to remember what it was

because there's really no universe where scum!me goes this hard defending my partner, there's like multiple ways i've interacted with the slot that i just would not have done as scum, the biggest example being that i picked a fight with limit to defend rex

and i've brought this up like 6 times now and nobody will engage me on this part or say how they think this is wrong, they just handwave it away and ignore the fact that i literally never interact with a buddy like this

[skitter30]

how does she not make sense with Titus given they haven't pushed each other and are counterwagoning me? not saying i think it's Titus rn tbh but her reasoning is flawed here

again, i don't interact with a buddy this way
like i can understand why people might think that defending each other is svs except that i have literally never managed to actually pull something like this off with a partner of mine in thread, i get too nervous and self-conscious about what things will happen post-flip for either one of us

and i don't have a possible partner outside of titus

[skitter30]

i feel very strongly that this is a scum-driven wagon and that we ought to be lynching eve today

y tho

some substance would be nice skittery

i've explained this already

[Morning Tweet]

Ah... yes. That. I see you still townread Titus I think? Since you believe the scumteam is likely Eve/Morning or Eve/BB

I can search for your reasons to believe Titus is town if you already said em, but otherwise I'd appreciate all the help i can get if you'd reiterate them for me

[skitter30]

hmMM

has acryon as joint second most preffered lynch yesterday

comes in today saying he was "transparently town" and that his lynch was awful

this is a misrep / taking things out of context

i was saying the whole time that the acryon wagon happened that i disliked it

when it was just hours to deadline and it was you vs titus vs acryon i made it clear that i was townreading the other two and would have preferred you

saying that he was my second-most preferred lynch yesterday is not true and ignores the context of imminent deadline

[Eve]

i see lol fair enough about that post

[Eve]

I might be giving skitter too little credit in saying that she wouldn't hard-defend her buddy for WIFOM purposes.

I forget, was skitter defending the Rex slot before Titus replaced in? I think she was. I guess it would be conceivable for Titus and skitter to decide to hard align with each other, I know Titus likes to do that and skitter iirc has a pretty strong bussing meta that she'd want to break.

-Smart

i literally picked a fight with you guys (when you were one of the most townread people in the game) cuz i didn't like your rex scumread ...
i've also pointed out that scum!me never decides to defend a partner that way, and have brought up this point multiple times, and nobody has chosen to address that either

i've also pointed out that scum!me never decides to defend a partner that way, and have brought up this point multiple times, and nobody has chosen to address that either

for this to be true it would mean skitter!scum will spew town anyone she hard defends because of meta

skitter is not bad at scum so this is obviously not true and she does not believe her own reasoning here

you skipped over this one btw

[skitter30]

Ah... yes. That. I see you still townread Titus I think? Since you believe the scumteam is likely Eve/Morning or Eve/BB

I can search for your reasons to believe Titus is town if you already said em, but otherwise I'd appreciate all the help i can get if you'd reiterate them for me

i think that titus actually believes in her vca even though i think her conclusions are rather wrong
if she's scum she could have just jumped on my mislynch instead of defending me, which has created suspicion on herself and also robs herself of the possibility of the mislynch.
like there's loads of risk/negative consequences and no gain if she's scum really, it would have been super bad positioning for her if she's scum

also i think that the reasons rex was being pushed were awful

[skitter30]

you skipped over this one btw

because i feel like i've already addressed that like three posts in a row but i basically don't interact with a partner this way, i get too self-conscious thinking about how it'll look post-flip

like seriously look through any of mhy scumgames and see if you can find a time where i did this

[Eve]

i know you've explained this but doesn't that mean as scum after you flip people could rule out people you hard defended in that way as town? that's correct, yes?

[skitter30]

i guess but i don't think anybody ever actually drew that conclusion about my play before

[Eve]

have you ever revealed that bit of self-meta about yourself in any previous games?

[skitter30]

I am curious if Limit is alive in order to aid a skitts lynch. But Limit might have totally different views on skitts than they did on D1 so don't know if this is outdated thinking

i feel like town!GL and town!skitts should have done something to switch the lynch off of nomnom tow

nope, they still think i'm scum, probably with titus

i think that the latter is kinda unreasonable given that i thought she was scum at the time

[skitter30]

have you ever revealed that bit of self-meta about yourself in any previous games?

not that i can think of!
i don't think that people's scumreads on me were so heavily based on {being scum with this one person} before either

[skitter30]

i'm honestly not even sure how the me/titus dynamic happened to begin with

[skitter30]

i kinda like mt's entrance