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Post Post #2600  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 9:52 pm

I mean last second crossbus isnt totally out of the realm of possibilities.
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Post Post #2601  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 9:52 pm

what is that in reference to?
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Post Post #2602  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 9:53 pm

In post 2537, SirCakez wrote:Also I think you using meta against me is wack because I don't think we have a game where I was town together before this one


This is a weird post given his scumread on mara

@Bork- notmaf distancing from cakez and neither him nor bulge voting each other is weird
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Post Post #2603  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 9:54 pm

In post 253, Leafeon and Glaceon wrote:VOTE: sircakez

i didn't like the catchup

i don't think his reasoning is very thorough and seems to be fairly tailored towards not sticking out in thread state, plus some of his reactions (specifically @ DC) felt kinda overblown

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I felt this vote was very arbitrary and lacking in teeth, which is why I slotted it as a partner vote.

Cakez was very animated in his rebuttal, which I am conflicted on but...gonna slot as +scum, I think.

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Post Post #2604  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 9:56 pm

In all fairness my vote on cakez WAS weak

And yeah I didnt have a ton of reasoning but I was feeling it. I'm still kinda feeling it.
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Post Post #2605  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:00 pm

don't exactly have any analysis to go w/ this observation but cakez and bulge have both been somewhat consistently mutually townreading each other
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Post Post #2606  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:03 pm

bulge only has 8 mentions of the term cakez in his iso lmao

They are both weird townreading each other while not working together at all
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Post Post #2607  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:03 pm

rereading bulge/infinity shenanigans

from infinity just oozes frustration to me and is really cementing that read
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Post Post #2608  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:04 pm

like not frustrated in a "you caught me" way - that wouldn't lead to the clarifying questions that follow

frustrated in that bulge is (potentially deliberately) not getting her points
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Post Post #2609  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:11 pm

I'm still thinking killing bulge is the move here. I am concerned about the wagon makeup, and that I'll make an ass out of myself again, but sometimes you have to take a shot
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Post Post #2610  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:17 pm

*nods*

i'm just not seeing VFT or Infinity (or you) as scum and nothing is changing my view on that

we're eliming comfortably in PoE with what i feel is a good wagon comp

if this is wrong again i will have an absolute breakdown on D3, but i mean, that's what i signed up for playing this setup
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Post Post #2611  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:18 pm

hi, guess who read some stuff

i want to vote bulge but i think mena would kill me if i moved our vote

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Post Post #2612  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:19 pm

i like when people read things

any other thoughts?
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Post Post #2613  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:20 pm

was standing in the shower thinking about this game and the scummiest thing that i think nm has actually done this game was the very brief window where he was posting actual content before reverting back to nothingness

i have hesitations about bulge but they're minute

p-edit: lemme quote some stuff

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Post Post #2614  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:21 pm

I'd not be super upset killing these two either.
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Post Post #2615  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:22 pm

Sorry I don't have more conclusive thoughts, my mind is fried and I'm about to go to bed.
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Post Post #2616  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:23 pm

My instinct is that burning all of NM/Bulge/Cakez/DC is a win. If you're comfortable calling the VFT slot hardtown I don't have to try so hard.

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Post Post #2617  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:23 pm

If I show up again tonight yeet me out the window

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Post Post #2618  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:23 pm

How quickly my desire to win turns though, be proud of yourself Kismet

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Post Post #2619  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:23 pm

also i'd feel really fucking bad if nm got away when we've been on him all game but like, idk. i'm torn between whether or not scum actually bus nm or try to leave him alive long enough to try and get a quickhammer in

i struggled for a bit trying to reconcile if these wagons can exist as svs and i came to the conclusion that there's no reason that they can't + bulge attacking infinity feels like the only option for scum!bulge when they've committed to having Obvious Townies and few options for those voting them. also the fact that it's like... why not vote nm there so you can get through to another day, imo? like this is projecting but i don't get why bulge choose to vote infinity which is for all intents and purposes atp a vanity wagon

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Post Post #2620  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:25 pm

In post 2617, Iverson wrote:If I show up again tonight yeet me out the window


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Post Post #2621  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:28 pm

Hey I'm being productive and lifting instead, I set PRs in all my main lifts last week only to skip Friday and would like to not fall off the wagon

Also I do feel it is important to note that I understand that post will look like Iverson scum giving 2 town 2 scum but I'm hoping getting through the rest solves that for me

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Post Post #2622  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:28 pm

ZERO p5 today

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Post Post #2623  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:29 pm

Bulge picked infinity to fan my paranoia over infinity.
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Post Post #2624  (ISO)  » Mon May 03, 2021 10:29 pm

Spoiler:
In post 2413, The Bulge wrote:i'm reading the whole game and trying not to have tunnel vision here

but like

In post 2415, The Bulge wrote:the whole game starting from d2, that is. just meant I'm not isoing infinity atm if that's what it looks like lol

In post 2435, The Bulge wrote:I am hung up on the contradiction, as should any townie in the game of mafia. you haven't justified it or cleared up any inconsistencies, and any attempt you've made to do that so far has come across to me as a backpedal, or stretching of any potentially ambiguous wording in your posts you can find.

In post 2451, The Bulge wrote:I don't like how this hasn't at any point felt like you are actually trying to help me understand what you meant, infinity. it all feels entirely like coverup. also not a fan of shit like this
In post 2434, Infinity 324 wrote:It's pretty clear that there's many points of possible benefit of the doubt you could be giving me and are not

or calling my takes "absurd", trying to discredit me. it feels reactive and defensive. the quoted line here has big caught-for-the-wrong-reasons frustration vibes.

I don't think you want your points and thought process to be fully laid out on display and explored and have all its holes exposed. the stretching and backpedalling and retroactive justification is spinning it all into a more convoluted web. if you were town being incorrectly pushed for a take you feel has been misinterpreted, I would expect some kind of summary, or alternate explanation, or a dumbed down version at least. instead I get stuff like you quoting the same post I have a problem with twice in a row as if that should be convincing me of anything new. you're looking for evidence that you didn't let your perspective slip instead of just explaining what you meant.

In post 2459, The Bulge wrote:or no one! i dont have an opinion of my own on the townbloc itself as a whole, i havent read enough. but im pretty sure infinity is scum.

In post 2465, The Bulge wrote:i don't think it matters who i think the scum in the bloc is. infinity presented very strongly that she believed the bloc to be all town. she then presented even stronger that she believed peta was protecting a buddy within the bloc. when pressed about this inconsistency, she flailed.

In post 2490, The Bulge wrote:
In post 2475, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2454, The Bulge wrote:
In post 1768, Infinity 324 wrote:Peta didn't want to point to examples because the townies were all transparently town and he didn't want to sow paranoia on a buddy.

my interpretation of this line is "peta didn't want to shake things up too much because the actual townies in the bloc were all transparently so, and he didn't want to risk blowing his partner's deep cover"

it doesn't make sense to say this at all if infinity doesn't think there is a partner in that bloc, regardless of any alternate theories she has given since then for why peta might have done that.


If me, bork, VFT, and notsci are all transparently town, it makes sense why peta didn't want to point to a specific scum in that group because...we're all transparently town.

so vaguely shading the entire group of Extremely Obvious Townies without further developing that thought is the more town-looking move? please


here's the things that i didn't like from bulge regarding infinity -- it feels like.. the inverse of what actually happened LMAO, like the point that was being made was a gotcha that was supposed to screw over infinity. and then that didn't happen. the things about being intentionally obtuse/discredting are the things bulge did (she's flailing, etc) whether or not he meant to do that.

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