Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[Dunnstral]

I do think Dunn can be scum in game 2, but he (officially) wasn't on the Meg wagon. Assuming mastina isn't lying about being third party, and Cheeky isn't lying about her claim, House is the only other possible scum on the wagon.

House can be town or scum

[Dunnstral]

Oh yeah dealing with this bullshit is also among the things I didn't really want to have to deal with. (it's not a "mastina must die", it's not quite "3p = acceptable loss", it's not any of the others I said previously, but it's among the things that any 3p claim will entail.)

I always call for the death of any 3p because they count against town majority.

You know this.

If you believe mastina's claim, particularly the bit about the wincon, then she pretty clearly would count TOWARDS a Town majority, not against. She needs scum eliminated just as much as we do, unless she's lying which should become pretty apparent later.

She only needs 1 mafia dead, and dwlee has already claimed. Granted she'll probably just townside anyway but there is no reason to do so other than not being eliminated right now

[Radical Rat]

She needs at least two mafia dead, according to her description. Possibly all of them in the event there's another 3P, though I don't find that terribly likely.

Regardless though, scum are incapable of killing her on their own, whereas town can eliminate her at any time, so even without the modified wincon it's in her best interest to townside.

[Amy Dunne]

My what? What “chainsaw”? You keep saying you’re town but have yet to explain your RR vote.

You're chainsawing on behalf of your buddy Rat.

Once again another deflection. Now you’re calling both of scum while still never explaining your reasons for scumreading RR.

I think he’s likely town here, more confident in A because of Cheeky vote thing but wouldn’t be terribly shocked if he’s town in B too. You otoh, I don’t think are town based at least partially on scummy af posts like these.

It’s not scummy to scumread a slot who plops down a naked vote, never explains, ignores everything that points away from this read, yet you think me sr someone for doing that is scummy. Ok.

And you STILL failing to come up with even one good reason why RR is scum here, especially in A. Gth, I think > than rand odds, the push on Rat doesn’t make a lot of sense from a town perspective.

[Amy Dunne]

Miss Amy Dunne, it's been quite awhile since we've spoken candidly! How does the thread greet you?

For the most part okay but I’m feeling somewhat frustrated that people that I’m not getting my questions answered.

[Lady Chloe]

Miss Amy Dunne, it's been quite awhile since we've spoken candidly! How does the thread greet you?

For the most part okay but I’m feeling somewhat frustrated that people that I’m not getting my questions answered.

Did I miss anything, dear?

[Amy Dunne]

Mastina’s solve is amazing, afterall she totally nailed scum!Meg in A and B.

Wait

This feels out of place. What did mastina say that specifically prompted this?

Spoiler:

mastina votes in game 2 are acceptable.

Oh yeah dealing with this bullshit is also among the things I didn't really want to have to deal with. (it's not a "mastina must die", it's not quite "3p = acceptable loss", it's not any of the others I said previously, but it's among the things that any 3p claim will entail.)

Do you have any opinions on who we should lim in Game 1 before Dwlee?

{Ircher, Dunnstral, Amy Dunne} is a good place to start. I realize that's also a group I think has 2/3 of the scum in the mini theme but I still think that group contains at least 1 scum in the mini normal, too.

You can add yourself to the list of players in the mini normal for me--not as a guarantee, but as a plausibility that I cannot ignore.

A50's town; Lady Chloe's town; House is town; CheekyTeeky is almost certainly town.

Beyond that, I

think

that T3 is town but not to the extent of the above;
With Dwlee as town in game #1, that'd leave possible scum as:
{Radical Rat, Amy Dunne, Dunnstral, Ircher} and maybe

maybe

T3.

This. Does her read on me come from blind confibiased town or she actually trying to get me miselimed? It’s honestly hard to tell atp.

[Lady Chloe]

I consider you and Almost50 the most widely townread slots of this game, so if her intention is to eliminate you, she is in for disappointment.

Is her survivor claim honest?

[Lady Chloe]

Mastina, your secret weapon of reading me was to hope that I am town until after Day 1, why am I still town?

[Amy Dunne]

Miss Amy Dunne, it's been quite awhile since we've spoken candidly! How does the thread greet you?

For the most part okay but I’m feeling somewhat frustrated that people that I’m not getting my questions answered.

Did I miss anything, dear?

I mean people who voted RR and who are still voting him and not explaining why. That’s why I’m staying on Ircher. He shades me but continues to refuse to answer that question.

[House]

I do think Dunn can be scum in game 2, but he (officially) wasn't on the Meg wagon. Assuming mastina isn't lying about being third party, and Cheeky isn't lying about her claim, House is the only other possible scum on the wagon.

House can be town or scum

Best post in the game.

This logic works every time.

[Amy Dunne]

I consider you and Almost50 the most widely townread slots of this game, so if her intention is to eliminate you, she is in for disappointment.

Is her survivor claim honest?

Well, she started off the game hardclaiming triple T and we now know that obviously can’t true based off of that. I think based off of Cheeky’s wagon analysis, likely because she said there were four different alignments on Meg B wagon iirc, unless of course if I completely misunderstood it? So if I didn’t actually misunderstand, it points to her being 3p.

[T3]

House town

[T3]

I don’t think scum him would completely lurk

[CheekyTeeky]

Lady, no I didn't need to be on wagon to get a result but I thought it would help to figure out if wagon was pure to be on it myself.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don’t think scum him would completely lurk

I've only known house to be in top posters in games Ive played with them so not sure where you're getting this from?

[Amy Dunne]

I don’t think scum him would completely lurk

I've only known house to be in top posters in games Ive played with them so not sure where you're getting this from?

That’s not a great meta tell anyway. I was in a game recently where I wrongly tr scum for that exact same reason.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don’t think scum him would completely lurk

I've only known house to be in top posters in games Ive played with them so not sure where you're getting this from?

That’s not a great meta tell anyway. I was in a game recently where I wrongly tr scum for that exact same reason.

You town read scum for being active or inactive?

[CheekyTeeky]

So to get this straight:

Dunnstral has claimed town DL.
Mastina has claimed town siding 3p...?

[Dunnstral]

So to get this straight:

Dunnstral has claimed town DL.
Mastina has claimed town siding 3p...?

Yes but the actual DL vote is unaligned

[mastina]

Yo, gotta leave for work and won't be able to post when there since all of the things I have to say I need to be at a desktop to say. (Wasn't up to it last night, sorry.) So will be here tonight. In the mean time tho;

VOTE: Ircher

Ircher > Dunnstral > RR > Dwlee

this is for both games since obviously if it were

just

game two it'd be Dwlee > Ircher > Dunnstral > RR (Dwlee being lower is due to the high chance they're town in game 1).

Will explain when home.

[Radical Rat]

You have the exact same scumpool in both games, just a different order?

[Almost50]

@Dwlee: How do you read Ircher

in game 1

?

[CheekyTeeky]

So to get this straight:

Dunnstral has claimed town DL.
Mastina has claimed town siding 3p...?

Yes but the actual DL vote is unaligned

That can't be correct because Ive confirmed that DL vote was taken into account in my result but I guess unadorned could count as like 3p in the parity check between wagonees.

[CheekyTeeky]

Uh unaligned*