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Post Post #2725 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:28 pm

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In post 2724, Nero Cain wrote:HEAL: ban ivory
HEAL: ban gold
What do you think of the gold mechanic ? What if every kill the killer gets a gold and he can then spend said gold for various abilities ? Maybe faction gets gold ?
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Post Post #2726 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:34 pm

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no. The gold we are banning is a luxury resource and there's nothing to suggest the other stuff so OR says no.
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Post Post #2727 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:39 pm

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What I think overall is that luxuries are tied to roles somehow so maybe a ban is like a one night roleblock?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2728 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:24 pm

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All religious spreaders need to target different ppl tonight. Claim in thread so there's no overlap.
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Post Post #2729 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:34 pm

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HEAL: ban Ivory
HEAL: ban gold

I will catch up tomorrow night
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Post Post #2730 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:11 pm

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was out of town for the weekend, will get back to it tomorrow
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Post Post #2731 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:59 pm

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HEAL: yay: Ban Ivory
HEAL: yay: Ban Gold
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Post Post #2732 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:29 pm

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Is Ran the last read scum? I wanted to relook at him b/c I think he's lurking horribly right now.

In parts of , , and he's defending Gamma. For the town cred?
In post 269, Ranmaru wrote:
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Does he sandwich his scumbuddy between two town? His vote on me makes me think this could be the classic push town, bus buddy scenario.
In post 269, Ranmaru wrote:he's voting Dunk and not doing much with it
this is a little chainsawy I think

In post 270, Ranmaru wrote:Marshy: Move your vote from Dunk, Nero is voting him and you FOS him. Vote with me.
and here he's actually trying to get votes off scum and onto town so :igmeou:

Of course, the one thing that makes me question is that if Ran were scum he could just stay on me and not vote Creature. Although, he'd look terrible for sitting on me and not Creature and my lynch wasn't exactly the path of least resistance.

After this, he starts hard pushing Creature so obviously, you guys are gonna say that no way he's red scum but dude is gonna get bussed, or at least I'd be super surprised if he wasn't.

and then there's
In post 825, Ranmaru wrote:Klazam > Nero Cain > Creature ] SCUM

Unvote; Vote: Nero Cain
Like he has Creature as a higher scum read but wants to vote not Creature? Last ditch effort to try to get a not Creature lynch?

Going with the "creature got bussed theory"
In post 1672, Venmar wrote:Kokichi Oma, Nero Cain, Almost50, Chara, marshy, Shaziro, Ranmaru, Gamma Emerald
I doubt koki is red scum. I mean, like I told Bujaber, the Dunk voted his scumbuddy for WC isn't totally terrible but I think its tinfoil and thus wrong. A50 is confirmed not red scum as is Marshy (assuming he's telling the truth) So rn my theory is that there's scum that bussed Creature in Chara, marshy, Shaziro, Ranmaru, Gamma Emerald with Shaz/Ran as my top choices.
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Post Post #2733 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:39 pm

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You make a valid argument for Ran!scum. I'd be willing to vote there.

As for koki I'm just gonna laugh when he flips scum and all you people that 'know' him got it wrong.
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Post Post #2734 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:40 pm

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But it's okay let's play the game of wait for 2/3s the town to die before lynching scum with our fingers crossed.
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Post Post #2735 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:41 pm

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VOTE: ranmaru
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Post Post #2736 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:44 pm

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Are there any other reasons that you think koki is scum or is it solely based on Dunk voting her? B/c I think its more likely his vote was to buddy her than to vote his buddy.
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Post Post #2737 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:50 pm

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BuJaber, your willingness to lynch pretty much anyone is unnerving to me.

Ban Ivory was my top choice, I think ban furs was second and ban gold third. I don't fully recall the order of the other two.

HEAL: Ban Gold x2
HEAL: Ban Ivory x2

VOTE: Kiana
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Post Post #2738 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:53 pm

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a penny for your thoughts?
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Post Post #2739 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:58 pm

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In post 2738, Nero Cain wrote:a penny for your thoughts?
Since replacing in, Kiana's posts have had one terrible read least and basically no reasoning in any of the posts. Lots of filter, like saying she semi recognized Martin Freeman, but not much else. She's actively inactive
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Post Post #2740 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:03 pm

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I meant about but ok, I can see your reasoning for Kianna.
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Post Post #2741 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:04 pm

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In post 2656, BuJaber wrote:
So basically imo lynch should be either {pidgey/marshy} or {koki/actiondan}.

Also it is likely that since nero chose to go after shaz at this point in the game we're looking at a TvS.

Pidgey/marshy
Koki/AD
Nero not shaz
Or shaz not nero
Ranmaru

How is that everyone?


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Dunk's vote
Koki's jokes about evilness and scumminess
Fact I don't remember any of his SR's without having to ISO him. He doesn't seem very forceful with his opinions.
His weird distrust of titus from the start for no clear reason.

Admittedly I haven't ISO'd him in a long time. But I realize he's not a viable lynch because there's not enough votes for it so I'm not concerned with sorting him for the time being.
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Post Post #2742 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:04 pm

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In post 2740, Nero Cain wrote:I meant about but ok, I can see your reasoning for Kianna.
Oh, sorry pre-coffee me. I could see it. Kiana is still my top scum read, though.
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Post Post #2743 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:06 pm

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Btw I don't know if I answered nero or not but basically the TvS was more of me thinking it can't be SvS. Maybe I should have worded it differently but I am not dismissing the possivility of TvT just find it more likely to be TvS.
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Post Post #2744 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:11 am

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Post Post #2745 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:23 am

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In post 2741, BuJaber wrote:Dunk's vote
Koki's jokes about evilness and scumminess
Fact I don't remember any of his SR's without having to ISO him. He doesn't seem very forceful with his opinions.
His weird distrust of titus from the start for no clear reason.

Admittedly I haven't ISO'd him in a long time. But I realize he's not a viable lynch because there's not enough votes for it so I'm not concerned with sorting him for the time being.
like I said, I think Dunks vote was more buddyish than trying to get their scumbuddy elected. TBF, I have seen scum joke about being scum/scummy but I also think it just comes from bad town alot. It's WIFOM. Ditto on not remembering anything they've done. She's remarkably unmemorable. The only thing I remember is her thing about gold causing corruption as that's a civ 3 mechanic and her thinking that would still be in civ v is just kinda dumb.
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Post Post #2746 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:29 am

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HEAL: ban Ivory
HEAL: ban gold

aight.
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Post Post #2747 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:38 am

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In post 2745, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2741, BuJaber wrote:Dunk's vote
Koki's jokes about evilness and scumminess
Fact I don't remember any of his SR's without having to ISO him. He doesn't seem very forceful with his opinions.
His weird distrust of titus from the start for no clear reason.

Admittedly I haven't ISO'd him in a long time. But I realize he's not a viable lynch because there's not enough votes for it so I'm not concerned with sorting him for the time being.
like I said, I think Dunks vote was more buddyish than trying to get their scumbuddy elected. TBF, I have seen scum joke about being scum/scummy but I also think it just comes from bad town alot. It's WIFOM. Ditto on not remembering anything they've done. She's remarkably unmemorable. The only thing I remember is her thing about gold causing corruption as that's a civ 3 mechanic and her thinking that would still be in civ v is just kinda dumb.
Thing is I think he did it exactly for this WIFOM argument. It was a herp derp let's elect the first person to post in the thread just because he said he'd be a good leader.

It is the fact that it was in RVS that makes it so good as a scum move. If he knew the votes were permanent he could always play it off to RVS or lie about knowing. If he actually didn't like he claims then it actually makes more sense because he would have changed his vote later and we would have all forgotten that subtle push for koki if he isn't elected host.

Basically I disagree that scum have no motivation to do that in RVS. I think there's lots of motivation to do that.
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Post Post #2748 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:59 am

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I think its not worth it as scum move, it’s not like anyone need rvs to vote for a scumbuddy, there’s other ways that don’t attract as much attention
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Post Post #2749 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:06 am

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In post 2732, Nero Cain wrote:A50 is confirmed not red scum as is Marshy (assuming he's telling the truth)
Why not Pidgey? You forgot or there's a reason you omitted to mention him
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