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Post Post #675  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:59 am

In post 673, Gorkington wrote:p-edit: there are aspects to grey's play that i would associate with townhim that im not seeing here and im not particularly interested in unpacking them right now.


Sure... But you get I can't just trust you on a meta read right?
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Post Post #676  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:00 am

im not interested in pushing grey or discussing why i think hes scum right now.
youre more than capable of trying to parse him yourself for now, but theres literally very little productive value in laying my hand out when itll be easier to lynch him if he doesnt towntell for most of today.
p-edit: where did i say i want people to sheep me on grey? am i voting him?
"Gork is trying to insult the skill of players who scumread him rather than their arguments
a pre-game encounter in chat seemed to indicate that this is, regrettably, his playstyle."
do me a favour and WOTC me.

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Post Post #677  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:04 am

In post 676, Gorkington wrote:im not interested in pushing grey or discussing why i think hes scum right now.
youre more than capable of trying to parse him yourself for now, but theres literally very little productive value in laying my hand out when itll be easier to lynch him if he doesnt towntell for most of today.
p-edit: where did i say i want people to sheep me on grey? am i voting him?


What I see is that you gave basically a naked read that you didn't bring up until that point in the game... Why say "I think they is Scumz" when what you said just here is that you have to wait to make that read anyways?
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Post Post #678  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:08 am

i dont have to wait to make the read.

it just makes it easier to push them if im not telling them why i think theyre scummy 24 hours into the game when they can just adjust if theyre scum if i tell them and if theyre town they have a chance to get into the game and start playing along my expectations.

pretty rocket science stuff.
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a pre-game encounter in chat seemed to indicate that this is, regrettably, his playstyle."
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Post Post #679  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:09 am

In post 678, Gorkington wrote:i dont have to wait to make the read.

it just makes it easier to push them if im not telling them why i think theyre scummy 24 hours into the game when they can just adjust if theyre scum if i tell them and if theyre town they have a chance to get into the game and start playing along my expectations.

pretty rocket science stuff.


You didn't answer my question???
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Post Post #680  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:10 am

and for "why mention it at all", implying the read is some basis for pressure.
and its also fun to say what my reads are even if its potentially not entirely the most optimal thing in the world.

p-edit: its my thought process which should explain why im doing what im doing.
:V
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Post Post #681  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:11 am

and youre literally saying "you dont have any basis for the read" and i just explained why i did. literally read your own words and read my words and process them with your brain.
actually think.
about the words.
with your brain cells.
before posting.
words.
in response.
to them.
"Gork is trying to insult the skill of players who scumread him rather than their arguments
a pre-game encounter in chat seemed to indicate that this is, regrettably, his playstyle."
do me a favour and WOTC me.

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Post Post #682  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:14 am

In post 680, Gorkington wrote:and for "why mention it at all", implying the read is some basis for pressure.
and its also fun to say what my reads are even if its potentially not entirely the most optimal thing in the world.

p-edit: its my thought process which should explain why im doing what im doing.
:V


Ah, so you made a naked read for pressure... I guess that makes sense. Glad I brought it up because this will add EXTRA pressure to them now.
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Post Post #683  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:17 am

i feel like im getting preemptively irritated at what feels like the beginning of you making a push on me thats going to make me frustrated.
lol.

i dont know why i actually asked you to push me when i knew it was going to make me feel really annoyed. what a silly goose i am.
:')
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a pre-game encounter in chat seemed to indicate that this is, regrettably, his playstyle."
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Post Post #684  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:18 am

In post 683, Gorkington wrote:i feel like im getting preemptively irritated at what feels like the beginning of you making a push on me thats going to make me frustrated.
lol.

i dont know why i actually asked you to push me when i knew it was going to make me feel really annoyed. what a silly goose i am.
:')


Yer, thanks for answering tho.
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Post Post #685  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:20 am

In post 681, Gorkington wrote:and youre literally saying "you dont have any basis for the read" and i just explained why i did. literally read your own words and read my words and process them with your brain.
actually think.
about the words.
with your brain cells.
before posting.
words.
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Jokes on you I have no brain cells. I am an enigma. Actually I'm closer to bacteria, but samezies.
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Post Post #686  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:29 am

In post 682, Quick wrote:
In post 680, Gorkington wrote:and for "why mention it at all", implying the read is some basis for pressure.
and its also fun to say what my reads are even if its potentially not entirely the most optimal thing in the world.

p-edit: its my thought process which should explain why im doing what im doing.
:V


Ah, so you made a naked read for pressure... I guess that makes sense. Glad I brought it up because this will add EXTRA pressure to them now.


Oh, silly me, you DIDN'T imply the read was for pressure... Weird because I wasn't implying that either and I really have no idea why you would think that... I was implying it was pointless to say "I think they is Scumz" for no reason at all. I mean... unless the read changes? But why would it, we're already 24 hours into the game.

But now it appears you were doing it for the ENTERTAINMENT and not for anything in particular. IDK why that would be entertaining, but some people are into some weird shit so *shrug*
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Post Post #687  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:32 am

Holy shit.
You guys talk so much you are making my voice hurt.
I think I’m 8 pages behind now.
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Post Post #688  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:44 am

In post 600, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 384, Spiffeh wrote:Ok I'm all caught up

Brian Skies is easily the scummiest player in the game and should be wagoned/lynched

You did the same thing in Gay Mafia and we were both town. Learn a new trick or I'm voteparking you.

Maybe you should do town things if you're town

Also interesting that you'd vote park me for behaving similarly to a game where I was town :)

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Post Post #689  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:50 am

VOTE: screenplay

probably wolfy as fuck even for screenplay

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Post Post #690  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:51 am

In post 601, Brian Skies wrote:I didn't see anything from my posting up until that point that was worthy of a townread from someone, and I've never played with her before so I doubt it was a meta read. I also think that if she really had a reason to think I was town, there would either have been some sort of explanation as to why she was townreading me or that she wouldn't have been so quick to 180 her read and vote me.

I agree with Toranaga awhile back who said that your immediate jump to "I'm being buddied" sounded like fake paranoia

I don't really understand why that was your thought process rather than Ausuka just sharing some of her early reads. It's not like her town read on you looked all that confident. The way you reacted seems like an easy way for scum to look like they're "suspicious" of someone and I don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion so early over something so trivial as town.

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Post Post #691  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:54 am

In post 31, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 11, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: SCREENPLAY

In post 25, Mulch wrote:CheekyTeeky(2) ~ Nero Cain(2)

That typo in the username.

What a flawless defense.

In post 32, Brian Skies wrote:VOTE: CheekyTeeky

In post 40, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 38, beeboy wrote:awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

In post 56, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 46, Ausuka wrote:early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.


^^^^ spiffeh

I can totally see brian's point of view in context here. just what exactly could warrant a townread from him? 3 empty as fuck posts and you're townread for it? it's suspicious.

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Post Post #692  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:55 am

jsyk, I initially did think it felt like fake paranoia but reading in context I agree with Brian. ausuka is a wolfread of mine rn.

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Post Post #693  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:58 am

In post 690, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 601, Brian Skies wrote:I didn't see anything from my posting up until that point that was worthy of a townread from someone, and I've never played with her before so I doubt it was a meta read. I also think that if she really had a reason to think I was town, there would either have been some sort of explanation as to why she was townreading me or that she wouldn't have been so quick to 180 her read and vote me.

I agree with Toranaga awhile back who said that your immediate jump to "I'm being buddied" sounded like fake paranoia

I don't really understand why that was your thought process rather than Ausuka just sharing some of her early reads. It's not like her town read on you looked all that confident. The way you reacted seems like an easy way for scum to look like they're "suspicious" of someone and I don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion so early over something so trivial as town.


What if I said bad Town do "bad" plays?

What do I mean? I mean newb Scum make poor plays like that all the time. Will have to go back and look at that interaction *Goes to check*

Okey here is the post:

In post 79, Ausuka wrote:
In post 76, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 72, Ausuka wrote:
In post 70, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 68, Ausuka wrote:
In post 56, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 46, Ausuka wrote:early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

was I wrong, Brian?

I'm town, I just don't think I've done anything worthy of a townread.

then why are you making remarks instead of voting me?

Should I be voting you?

if you scumread me, which you claim to, it follows you should be voting me.


I personally agree that there was pretty much zero to conclude that brain deserves a TR at that point of the game... I am SRing Ausuka and I really don't think that is SvS... So... IDK, Not really feeling the Brain SRs atm...
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Post Post #694  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:58 am

In post 693, Quick wrote:
In post 690, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 601, Brian Skies wrote:I didn't see anything from my posting up until that point that was worthy of a townread from someone, and I've never played with her before so I doubt it was a meta read. I also think that if she really had a reason to think I was town, there would either have been some sort of explanation as to why she was townreading me or that she wouldn't have been so quick to 180 her read and vote me.

I agree with Toranaga awhile back who said that your immediate jump to "I'm being buddied" sounded like fake paranoia

I don't really understand why that was your thought process rather than Ausuka just sharing some of her early reads. It's not like her town read on you looked all that confident. The way you reacted seems like an easy way for scum to look like they're "suspicious" of someone and I don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion so early over something so trivial as town.


What if I said bad Scum do "bad" plays?

What do I mean? I mean newb Scum make poor plays like that all the time. Will have to go back and look at that interaction *Goes to check*

Okey here is the post:

In post 79, Ausuka wrote:
In post 76, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 72, Ausuka wrote:
In post 70, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 68, Ausuka wrote:
In post 56, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 46, Ausuka wrote:early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

was I wrong, Brian?

I'm town, I just don't think I've done anything worthy of a townread.

then why are you making remarks instead of voting me?

Should I be voting you?

if you scumread me, which you claim to, it follows you should be voting me.


I personally agree that there was pretty much zero to conclude that brain deserves a TR at that point of the game... I am SRing Ausuka and I really don't think that is SvS... So... IDK, Not really feeling the Brain SRs atm...


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Post Post #695  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:01 am

Ok, I see what you mean, but why immediately assume you're being buddied from a player you've never seen before rather than prodding them and asking why they're town reading you?

Yeah that is a pretty garbage ISO to town read but that doesn't make Brian's reaction to it much better.

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Post Post #696  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:01 am

^ to Toranaga

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Post Post #697  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:04 am

In post 691, Toranaga wrote:
In post 31, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 11, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: SCREENPLAY

In post 25, Mulch wrote:CheekyTeeky(2) ~ Nero Cain(2)

That typo in the username.

What a flawless defense.

In post 32, Brian Skies wrote:VOTE: CheekyTeeky

In post 40, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 38, beeboy wrote:awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

In post 56, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 46, Ausuka wrote:early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.


^^^^ spiffeh

I can totally see brian's point of view in context here. just what exactly could warrant a townread from him? 3 empty as fuck posts and you're townread for it? it's suspicious.


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Post Post #698  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:06 am

spiffeh: I agree, but right now I'm reading into it as poor phrasing/use of words rather than scummy jumping to conclusions. instead of thinking he is being *buddied*, which I agree is quite ridiculous, he was more precisely reading into it as "I did nothing to warrant a townread and IDK why I'm getting one", which he explained later. people use the term buddying way too broadly and it's not always what they mean. I don't think brian actually thinks scum is trying to buddy him.

quick: yeah we're definitely seeing eye to eye here mate

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Post Post #699  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:08 am

In post 696, Spiffeh wrote:^ to Toranaga


Right...
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