Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[ruru]

votecount

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

McMenno (4):	Nancy Drew Shogunate (2814),	Chara (2905),	Chickadee (2988),	BuJaber (3058),
Tails (3):	Reasonably Rational (2914),	Jingle (2941),	Flicker (2952),
BuJaber (3):	CheekyTeeky (3060),	Tails (3066),	Elsa Jay (3097),
Nancy Drew Shogunate (1):	Thor665 (2092),
Toogeloo (1):	Gamma Emerald (2792),
Chickadee (1):	Toogeloo (2872),
CheekyTeeky (1):	McMenno (2985),
Not voting (2):	Malakittens,	Aristophanes (2912),

(expired on 2018-10-29 22:00:00) remain.

[BuJaber]

Second: Are you saying I'm more dangerous because of my personailty and criminal record or are you saying a Survivor is more dangerous then a Lyncher?

And why are you trying to appeal to me in particular? I know atleast a few of the people here like my opinion, but trying to pocket me seems weird as fuck.

Your also trying to make me not hang you by... Accusing me that I'm being selfish if I hang you?

VOTE: BuJaber

Yeah, no. I'm not falling for that shit.

This is actually amazing. You misinterpretted every single part of that.

Spoiler: For Elsa: What I actually meant/intended

First of all Tails pissed me off so to prove him wrong I wanted to get lynched in the most fabulously sarcastic way ever and then BOOM you will all be enlightened with exactly what my role is this game. But the actual real reason is that I'm hoping people, including tails himself if he is town, will realize how rediculous lynching me actually is and will move on to lynching scum.

Second of all no you are dangerous not because survivor is more dangerous than lyncher. It's because Mala's win condition is almost impossible to achieve without help. Also because from what people are saying you are capable of pulling this off as scum. But mainly the mala thing. I may or may not have more to say about this later in the game.

Thirdly, (ties in to the first reason), I 'appealed' to you because you are a 3rd party. If you and Mala have not lied, which I suspect neither of you have, then I was 100% honest with you and because I was truthful I was hoping you would vote me to stick it to the players in this game who frankly I'm not sure anymore who's being more anti-town.. my townreads or my scumreads.

Again, I'm not actually trying to die but I don't value my role more than some of the claims we've had so far, and in a moment of mixed emotions I wanted to lash out in a way that makes me the most hated player in the game but that everyone would still be forced to townread. It's a way for me to know if I've truly obvtowned or not. Also because sarcasm and the thought of proving people wrong kinda calms me down. It's pretty messed up now that I'm admitting this out loud actually, but that's just how it is. I'm trying to never rep-out of frustration again in any game and one way I do this is to remind myself that I know I will never flip scum despite what anybody thinks so as long as I've put in a reasonable effort to solve the game I don't need to blame myself for my lynch anymore and they can lynch me 7 times in a row if they want.
I've actually been a lot more active than I expected to be in this game so I'm pretty happy with my play so far.

[BuJaber]

2 Death* rather.

It's why I used LR last night. Since a non town was lynched, up to 2 town could be night killed, so it seemed optimal to reduce that to possibly just 1.

This reminds me.. I wanted to ask you about this earlier... I don't quite understand how the flip has any effect on the number of town that could be NK'd. How would it be different if it a townie got lynched day 1?

[Chara]

if a townie got lynched day 1, only one could die at night, maximum. it's part of the setup.

[Chara]

VOTE: Tails

[BuJaber]

if a townie got lynched day 1, only one could die at night, maximum. it's part of the setup.

Oh that counts as the same phase for kills.. cool cool

[Jingle]

Traditional SK wins when they are the last person standing. The game ends when all town are dead or all threats to town are dead. This highly suggests that any and all scumteams can in fact win together.

Unaligned scum being possible, but less likely than two teams is based on the fact that a team of less than three people doesn't benefit from rule 3 at all. It's possible that that rule is solely for the benefit of town and HoB, but that seems like a needless handicap for unaligned scum when they already mechanically have a harder time winning than groupscum.

Numbers wise, 2 teams makes the most sense, because 9 town + 2 Neutral + 3 + 3 is 17. We have two reasonable neutral claims, a confirmed team of three via the traitor flip, and a flavor based on a group of exactly nine people.

This is something I wish you hadn't said out loud.

Yes, smart scum will have realized this..but if we're looking at multiple unaligned scum, that is, single individuals...one person could miss it.

Instead of scum looking for one another in order to shoot, they'll be looking for one another to know who to *not* shoot.

:-/

-Cerb

If we’re looking at multiple unaligned scum they have a reason to shoot for not town anyway. If they all shoot town, most of their kills fail. If they shoot scum they can wager on fakeclaiming vig and there is less of a chance they die themselves later on. Incoming bullets are still a problem, especially when obvtown starts disappearing. People tunneling you are still a problem if they’re otherScum. If there are exactly two scum groups, as is likely, they might still aim for the other for that reason.

[Elsa Jay]

This is actually amazing. You misinterpretted every single part of that.

It's a special skill of mine, I assure you. But that atleast proves how different our thought process is.

Never trust I (or anyone elsa for that matter) understand how you think. Explanations are key.

and your saying you think your role is less valuable then any of the claimed ones? very weird way to soft-claim.

[Jingle]

Oh, also, I have a theory that if a reaver exists they may be similar to Mala in that they have a preset kill limit and they exit the game when said kill limit is reached, having sated their bloodlust. In which case, at least one scum will be actively looking to kill scum to ensure their kill goes through.

[Jingle]

And in inane nonsense news, Toogeloo now actually has posted a happy prime number of times in this game. And I am probably the only member of ms that would care about that.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: tails

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

Who’s that person in the middle

[Gamma Emerald]

Really?

So what number would be too much?

Because I count 4 so far. (Elsa, RR, Flicker, Cheeky)

Flicker isn’t protective wat

[Gamma Emerald]

Uh where did I soft protective BuJaber? Also, since when are Flicker and RR protective roles?

If a game has many killing roles but also many protectives, it's not much of an 'overkill' game, is it?


If a game has many killing roles but also many protectives, it's not much of an 'overkill' game, is it?

Pretty sure this^ is scumplaining.

I think I like this thought
VOTE: BuJaber

[Aristophanes]

2 Death* rather.

It's why I used LR last night. Since a non town was lynched, up to 2 town could be night killed, so it seemed optimal to reduce that to possibly just 1.

Shit that's the towniest thing I've read this whole game! GDI

[McMenno]

I'm truly sorry to almost who like asked me to replace into this game in the hopes that I'd be reliable but another thing in my life, especially a mafia game, is just not something I can handle right now.

Please replace me.

[Malakittens]

So we are lynching tails.. right?

[Elsa Jay]

I'm truly sorry to almost who like asked me to replace into this game in the hopes that I'd be reliable but another thing in my life, especially a mafia game, is just not something I can handle right now.

Please replace me.

This slot is Fricken cursed, I tell you. This is the second victim it's claimed.

Will we get a third?

[BuJaber]

This is actually amazing. You misinterpretted every single part of that.

It's a special skill of mine, I assure you. But that atleast proves how different our thought process is.

Never trust I (or anyone elsa for that matter) understand how you think. Explanations are key.

and your saying you think your role is less valuable then any of the claimed ones? very weird way to soft-claim.

Ftr Priest is a modifier I'm not comparing mine with Flicker's.

[BuJaber]

Because if that's her full role she's glorified VT

[Almost50]

Replacement

Replacement Announcement

McMenno

is replaced with

Light Ethos

effective immediately.

[Chickadee]

Welcome! A lot had happened. There's a lot of claims on the table. There are also some good TLDR catch up posts. If no one else grabs them for you first, I'll be glad to in however long it takes me to not be busy.

[Elsa Jay]

Almost, do you got an Assembly line on standby?

Where do you keep finding these guys.

[Elsa Jay]

Claims this game so far-

Elsa: Neutral Doc (Ascetic BP)
Flicker: Priest (proved their modifier)
Toog: Lightning Rod
Chickadee: Day flavor cop (who says Robin is River/Simon)
Jingle: Mason
Mala: Lyncher who flavor target is "Mal"

Gamma: Mason

I'm keeping this as a reminder for later.

7 outta 16 have claimed so far and it's only day 2. We got 7 IRL days to figure this shit out.

Might as well quote this for the 5th time for the new guy.

[Thor665]

Now I want to steal Thor's hammer...

We did finally break the magical Jingle and Thor are opposite alignments tell at some point though. I think we have two whole completed games where we're both town!

I'd forgotten about that - it was a frighteningly long run.

I'm fascinated about how long the McMenno counter is working compared to the Tails wagon. Something is strange there.