Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[AlmostNancy]

I need to reevaluate things. I'm thinking there's mafia plus two third party.

Two? But there were only 2 kills last night. Unless you think 1 is a neutral 3P?

[AlmostNancy]

I thought he offered his flavor because you purportedly have the ability to confirm whether it's an actual flavor in the game or a provided fake claim?

Only if tw - I’m assuming you meant him? - has the actual flavour which I can verify. We only know of ONE.

[AlmostNancy]

Vars sorry for this but you've softed a little too much. You're informed too right?

Multiple informed townies in the same game?

Mitilos first claimed no ninja, then we crumbed/claimed informed townie with a flavour claim.

So you think it’s more than Varsoon being an expert on Starcraft?

Some of his language was TMIey. I still really expect him to to claim whether or not he is informed.

I think he should if that’s the case. We can then have an informed neighbourhood.

[AlmostNancy]

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[the worst]

This is pretty tinfoily but I kinda wonder if Relly having claimed has anything to do with his death...?

[the worst]

like claim/flavour vigs are not at all popular on MS
nvm this is stupid

[the worst]

so the groupscum kill last night was probably on Creature I guess..? does NKA get us anywhere here? I really can't think of anyone but I can feel my interest fading and I want to stop that

[Varsoon]

Protoss shoot lasers and use beam swords and lightning. They're... not really bullet-types.
Zerg? They can infect humans and control them, so it's possible that some Zerg have bullet-type flavor.
There are also just straight up Terran that are bad guys and they'd definitely have bullet-type flavor.

I still don’t understand. How are Terrans bad guys? *confuzzlement growning*

In the first Starcraft game, the Terran Confederacy is in a civil war.
https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Arcturus_Mengsk
https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Terran_Confederacy
https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Sons_of_Korhal
https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Alpha_Squadron

In the game, Terran characters like Duke and Jim Raynor are good guys, whereas Terran characters like Arcturus Mengsk are bad guys. Mengsk seems like a good guy at first, but he turns out to be using Psi Emitters to make the Zerg attack or show up in certain places and he has this policy of nuking entire planets. Mengsk betrays Jim Raynor and is successful in overthrowing the Confederacy and establishing the Terran Dominion in its place. At least, I am fairly sure that's the plot.

Anyway, SCV doesn't make any sense for a bulletproof claim, as they're your basic grunt worker units and one of the easiest units to kill. It makes sense as a fake-claim in a game where all the named roles are already taken, but it'd be vanilla town or some sort of enabler role in my mind.

[Nauci]

What I call it, was not allowing you to get away with misrepping me - intentionally or unintentionally.

Misrepping?

I didn't even use words in that post; just quoted posts that were contrary to your assessment because I remembered those were his most recent read progression. I call that a correction, not a misrepresentation.

[Nauci]

Wait hold on are you saying we're missing a nk?

Oh

Oh damn

Hmm it's possible

It's also possible

there's an infested terran with a gun

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'd not even considered the possibility of a kill having been prevented because 3 killers n1 is absurd and creature didn't die by PGO

Wrt the bolded. Come again?

Zerg had the ability to infest Terran units and turn them into essentially zombie Zerg units. An infested terran has the ability to use guns instead of claws.

The flavors thus far have all been obviously good guys in the lore and the medic had an obvious correlation with the role so I'm pretty against flavor claiming.

[Nauci]

Role PMs have multiball/generic wording and the opening post says there is ~a~ mafia faction with daytalk so I feel like we're dealing with maybe mafia + SK

but irrelephant, as w Creature, was shot, so if the Zerg is a faction either they don't have a nightkill or they didn't kill last night...?

I'm saying it's probably something like

Evil Terrans

kill on Odd Nights with Bullets.
Zerg kill on Even Nights with Claws.
SK could be Protoss?

I'm not saying we're missing a kill, but that I think the different factions have a rotating kill with different flavor.
I also think that if there is an SK, they probably are bulletproof and shot our PGO.

So, you don’t think there could possibly be an odd night scumdoc in the setup?

“Evil Terrans”? I thought Terrans are supposed to be the good guys? *confused*

Starcraft (the original at least ) had very complex lore with multiple factions within each species, even the Zerg who are a hivemind

[Nauci]

VOTE: performer

I don't understand how crumbing scv flavor could possibly allude to being a tpr

But I could see it being a scum train of thought

Also I don't think anyone here has played it enough to immediately recognise the butter my biscuit allusion, and I say that as someone who has every achievement and used to commentate sc2 esports

Why?

It seems more likely to be something scum would try to concoct as a crumb than one planned to confirm a claim to me

[Nauci]

so the groupscum kill last night was probably on Creature I guess..? does NKA get us anywhere here? I really can't think of anyone but I can feel my interest fading and I want to stop that

I've been super busy but was thinking of combing creature's iso for tpr clues in case scum saw something I missed And shot him

[Nauci]

Protoss shoot lasers and use beam swords and lightning. They're... not really bullet-types.
Zerg? They can infect humans and control them, so it's possible that some Zerg have bullet-type flavor.
There are also just straight up Terran that are bad guys and they'd definitely have bullet-type flavor.

I still don’t understand. How are Terrans bad guys? *confuzzlement growning*

In the first Starcraft game, the Terran Confederacy is in a civil war.
https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Arcturus_Mengsk
https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Terran_Confederacy
https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Sons_of_Korhal
https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Alpha_Squadron

In the game, Terran characters like Duke and Jim Raynor are good guys, whereas Terran characters like Arcturus Mengsk are bad guys. Mengsk seems like a good guy at first, but he turns out to be using Psi Emitters to make the Zerg attack or show up in certain places and he has this policy of nuking entire planets. Mengsk betrays Jim Raynor and is successful in overthrowing the Confederacy and establishing the Terran Dominion in its place. At least, I am fairly sure that's the plot.

Anyway, SCV doesn't make any sense for a bulletproof claim, as they're your basic grunt worker units and one of the easiest units to kill. It makes sense as a fake-claim in a game where all the named roles are already taken, but it'd be vanilla town or some sort of enabler role in my mind.

Staaaaaaahp you're making me too nostalgic for brood war

I thought that scv-in-a-bunker would have been a hilarious appropriate flavor for a tpr that has no power except 1sbp, personally

This doesn't rule it out as a potential fake claim though

[Nauci]

I think the performer push has kinda run its course at this point; Varsoon, Mitillos, tell me about your view of d2 xtoxm

[Nauci]

VOTE: performer

I don't understand how crumbing scv flavor could possibly allude to being a tpr

But I could see it being a scum train of thought

Also I don't think anyone here has played it enough to immediately recognise the butter my biscuit allusion, and I say that as someone who has every achievement and used to commentate sc2 esports

I don't get the reference.
But I haven't played any of Starcraft 2.
Actually
Should I play it for the plot/story missions??


VOTE: Performer

I'm cool with this.

Why is his claim more likely to come from scum than town? You would be able to explain that better than anyone else here, I hope?

I don't understand why you (repeatedly? I thought I saw another instance at least) say he's the only one here who knows the lore when I've been discussing it as well and mentioned that I have every achievement in the game o_o I mean commentating it might not mean much to you but I played and watched the game enough to be essentially a sportscaster for professional competitive starcraft 2

[Xtoxm]

^notice how hard Nauci is working to save Performer

[Nauci]

so the groupscum kill last night was probably on Creature I guess..? does NKA get us anywhere here? I really can't think of anyone but I can feel my interest fading and I want to stop that

Analysis of NKA would help me

Everyone: who do you think tried to kill who and why? Even wild speculation is fine.

[Nauci]

^notice how hard Nauci is working to save Performer

Notice how hard I'm working to chase up multiple leads and be thorough instead of use the whole day on someone who has already claimed, you mean? What is this bs shade? I helped lead the wagon on performer and didn't want an early end of day when players like you haven't really contributed sortable content yet

[Nauci]

In a 15p game a mislynch today could result in lylo tomorrow

How come you're not trying to game solve today, xtoxm? I had you even as a town lean yesterday because I thought you did put in some work but it feels like you've sat back a lot today flying under the radar

[Xtoxm]

Because Perf's hammer on NM was a scumclaim to me and my view of the game from here depends on him flipping red, but I want to actually confirm that before I go any further.

You can lynch me if you want though I don't really give a shit.

[Nauci]

I don't think there's any indication from creature's regular posting that he was crumbing

But his rvs entrance claimed survivor so maybe that was enough of a crumb/motivation

@krazy

would an ascetic or ninja modifier affect being shot at by a pgo?

[Nauci]

Because Perf's hammer on NM was a scumclaim to me and my view of the game from here depends on him flipping red, but I want to actually confirm that before I go any further.

You can lynch me if you want though I don't really give a shit.

You have no interest in interacting with him to see if you're right or find associatives, because he hammered with like ~5-6h remaining?

I mean he's squarely in my scum pile for reasons I've already mentioned but it's a waste of day to not pressing everywhere for sortable content

What conclusions would you draw from performer flipping red or flipping green?

[Kokichi Oma]

If performer gets to L-1 I'm gonna quick hammer

[the worst]

UNVOTE:
vote still there in spirit I'm just scared of scumkichi