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Post Post #2550  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:45 am

Im town.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #2551  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:59 am

Even then I don't see the point in the fullclaim :/ but fair ^_^
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Post Post #2552  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:49 pm

In post 2541, Umlaut wrote:I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it so I'll just say I got mail last night.

(also my predecessor got mail n1.)


Interesting.

Your predecessor got mail from who?

(I believe I know the answer but I wanna make sure)
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Post Post #2553  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:52 pm

In post 702, mastina wrote:
In post 684, Tsutsu wrote:
In post 682, mastina wrote:For the record her dying message to me (at least I am assuming it was from her) said that you were town. <3
Oh how interesting.
VOTE: Mastina
She targeted me last night
Well, last night, I was targeted by a mailman. They said they were a town odd-night combined mailman alien, that I was both roleblocked and rolestopped. (They apologized for blocking my actions, which is unfortunate, because I did use an action last night--ironically enough, *I* targeted *you*.) They then said they didn't have much more to say, other than townreading you, thinking I am town, and wanting thoughts on Auro; they gave me a code word to confirm it was from them. They also specified a way beyond the code word to reveal to me.

But I assumed it was from Momrangal doing a gambit, that she lied about being odd-night alien with her really being a jailkeeper and that the message originated from her.

I suppose my assumption could've been wrong, but I very much did receive a message with the above as the contents of it and it at least somewhat checks out since I know for a fact that my action on you failed.


Just posting this here for no apparent reason that will become apparent later.
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Post Post #2554  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:01 pm

Nevermind this is the mom bullshit again.

Ugh this is confusing.
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Post Post #2555  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:12 pm

In post 2552, MathBlade wrote:Interesting.

Your predecessor got mail from who?

(I believe I know the answer but I wanna make sure)

Someone with a protective ability, possibly Momrangal, but don't want to reveal the message in case someone else wants to claim it.
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Post Post #2556  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:13 pm

I mean, I assume it was someone with a protective ability because the message included a promise that I would survive the night
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Post Post #2557  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:14 pm

Actually no it's pretty much 100% Mom, message also said I (tsutsu) wouldn't be going out that night so I was presumably jailed.
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Post Post #2558  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:24 pm

So, i assume Rolecop+Doctor went for Mastina to check, instead of Cop?

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Post Post #2559  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:54 pm

In post 2540, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2538, schadd_ wrote:tris has been killed in the night! she was a vanilla townie!



I'm sorry WHAT!? I mean GG on drawing the NK I guess but WAT.


Uhh.... o.o I dunno what to think at this point ngl. Annoyingly Moz gets a proper town pass for the bug push...


OI LEND, WANNA ACTUALLY APPEAR AND DO STUFF? AM GETTING LONELY OVER HERE!

i heard the nintendo game boy with a tetris cartridge is a great cure for loneliness

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Post Post #2560  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:05 pm

What are all the claims on the board right now?
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Post Post #2561  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:09 pm

In post 2559, lendunistus wrote:
In post 2540, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2538, schadd_ wrote:tris has been killed in the night! she was a vanilla townie!



I'm sorry WHAT!? I mean GG on drawing the NK I guess but WAT.


Uhh.... o.o I dunno what to think at this point ngl. Annoyingly Moz gets a proper town pass for the bug push...


OI LEND, WANNA ACTUALLY APPEAR AND DO STUFF? AM GETTING LONELY OVER HERE!

i heard the nintendo game boy with a tetris cartridge is a great cure for loneliness

Hey I have the OG brick gameboy AND tetris somewhere :P lost so many hours to that game xD
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Meds change? Meds change. Have fun because these are some proper beasties (like DUI level beasties :P)
Do you wanna get to know me? Like are you really sure about that? GTKAS!

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Post Post #2562  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:14 pm

In post 2560, Umlaut wrote:What are all the claims on the board right now?


We have 2-shot Tracker.
Jack of All Trades.
Alien.
Rolecop+Doctor.
Townie-Townie Role.

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Post Post #2563  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:14 pm

... And false Cop.

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Post Post #2564  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:14 pm

In post 2293, mozamis wrote:I guess if i am wrong about one of those, Auro scum.
In other words, scum must be in:
Bugs, Vax, Len Auro/Out?
Lynch Bugs, Vax and Len first.
The Mists of Muddle part, and Kindly Uncle Moz solves the game once again :)


Ok, I haven't looked properly at the voting blocs yet, so I wont vote yet.
But I'm almost certainly going to vote Len.
Nothing town from Len all game.

Paranoid caveat: why are people who look really town, i.e Math and Mastina, still alive?
Answer: scum probably think they will be protected from NK.
Still, if they are around in ElimLose, it's time to be really sus about them.

But the simple answer is that Len,Vax and Auro/Out are scum, and we should exterminate them first.

People on board for getting rid of Len?
How sad are we? And how sad have we been? We'll let you know...

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Post Post #2565  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:18 pm

Still, credit to Bugspray for coming out with some quality BS at the end lol
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Post Post #2566  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:34 pm

I don't really understand why T3 claimed.
But it looks really town.
They have looked really town for a long time.
Happy with Vax or Len.
No reads or any substantive contributions from Lens posts or Vax's. Quel surprise...
How sad are we? And how sad have we been? We'll let you know...

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Post Post #2567  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:43 pm

@Math - who would you rather, Len or Vax?
I'd go for Auro or Outworlder at a stretch, but I cant see myself voting for anyone else, so we need to vote for one of those, if we want our bloc to have a voice.
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Post Post #2568  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:53 pm

otherwise we are like the LibDems in the co-alition lol
yes, it's a politics joke, but this IS Electoral College Mafia for god's sake!
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Post Post #2569  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:03 pm

In post 2539, schadd_ wrote:
GROUP 1not voting (3): Vaxkiller, Flea the Magician, Enchant

GROUP 2not voting (3): lendunistus, Umlaut, T3

GROUP 3not voting (2): OutWorldER, mastina

GROUP 4not voting (2): MathBlade, mozamis

GROUP 5not voting (1): Auro
Green = conftown to me; blue = not conftown but I strongly think to be town.

I'm reasonably sure that scum have an even-night roleblocker btw since I'm pretty sure I was targeted by a roleblocker both on N2 and N4--which, in contrast to the alien (which is odd-night), did not give a message to me.

If I am right, the roleblocker could only be one of {Vax, Flea, lendunistus, Outworlder, mozamis}, because Auro is almost certainly truthfully claiming to be a rolecop.

With bugspray flipping goon, Auro is almost definitely scum here.
lendunistus is also basically confscum to me.
If both of these are true, that leaves 1 scum in {Vaxkiller, Outworlder} + {mozamis, Flea}. The latter group I townread; the former group I no longer do.

VOTE: lendunistus.
lendunitus > Auro >> Outworlder > Vaxkiller >>>> mozamis >>> Flea imo.

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Post Post #2570  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:25 pm

In post 3, schadd_ wrote:
GROUP 1not voting (8): Xtoxm, quiet/Almost50, Noraa/TsuTsu/Umlaut, Auro, Gypyx/Enchant, tris, Anya, VFP

GROUP 2not voting (3): mastina, bugspray, Randy Savage/MathBlade

GROUP 3not voting (3): Vaxkiller, Momrangal, mozamis

GROUP 4not voting (3): OutWorldER, lendunistus, flow trap

GROUP 5not voting (1): Flea the Magician

GROUP 6not voting (1): T3
The D1 distribution. In group 1, there is only one player not conftown at this point: Auro. This makes him stick out like a sore thumb. Either the group was all town or Auro is scum.
I believe that the individual voters are both town here.
I'm not sure if there's two scum in group 4 or one scum in group 4 and one scum in group 3, but I very much don't think that group 4 was all town; there's a minimum of one scum in {lendunistus, Outworlder}.

In post 605, schadd_ wrote:
GROUP 1not voting (13): Xtoxm, Vaxkiller, mastina, Almost50, bugspray, Flea the Magician, lendunistus, Tsutsu/Umlaut, Randy Savage/MathBlade, T3, Gypyx/Enchant, mozamis, VFP

GROUP 2not voting (2): Auro, tris

GROUP 3not voting (1): Anya

GROUP 4not voting (1): OutWorldER
Here the distribution is either 2 scum in the big group with 2 scum out (both Auro and Outworlder are scum), or the distribution is 3 scum in the big group with 1 scum out (one scum in {Auro, Outworlder}, with both Vaxkiller and lendunistus being scum).

Crossreferencing with D1, the latter is more likely because of the Outworlder+lendun grouping on D1 but the former isn't impossible. (Basically it comes down to: do you think Vaxkiller is scum or Outworlder is scum, with Auro and lendun being scum regardless.)

In post 1619, schadd_ wrote:
GROUP 1not voting (7): Vaxkiller, OutWorldER, Flea the Magician, Tsutsu/Umlaut, mozamis, tris, Anya

GROUP 2not voting (7): mastina, Almost50, bugspray, MathBlade, T3, Auro, Gypyx/Enchant

GROUP 3not voting (1): lendunistus
Here you have a guarantee of one scum in Vax/Outworlder yet again, with a theoretical, but doubtful, chance for both to be scum. (Both being scum means one of Auro/lendun is town when I think both are likely to be scum.)

In post 2034, schadd_ wrote:
GROUP 1not voting (6): OutWorldER, Tsutsu/Umlaut, MathBlade, T3, Auro, mozamis

GROUP 2not voting (5): mastina, bugspray, Flea the Magician, lendunistus, Gypyx/Enchant

GROUP 3not voting (2): Vaxkiller, tris
Here, there's a guarantee of one scum in {Outworlder, Auro} with a high chance of lendun being scum regardless and at least a reasonable chance of Vaxkiller being scum.

In post 2539, schadd_ wrote:
GROUP 1not voting (3): Vaxkiller, Flea the Magician, Enchant

GROUP 2not voting (3): lendunistus, Umlaut, T3

GROUP 3not voting (2): OutWorldER, mastina

GROUP 4not voting (2): MathBlade, mozamis

GROUP 5not voting (1): Auro
Which brings us to this.

Imo from this, I actually think lendun > Auro > Vaxkiller from the overall distribution from day to day.

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Post Post #2571  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:40 pm

I'm fine voting anyone as long as it's not any confirmed town or moz. I would hold off on the Auro lim for now. Flea was very towny up until yesterday when Flea dropped off the face of the earth for a legit reason.
moz was scummy but hard pushed on a scum.
Vax and lend haven't done anything but based on play lend feels townier than Vax, but groups make lend scummier.OWER came in as town and then lost activity.
Auro I don't know about, I'll wait for his result. Also based on a setup like this and moz not visitng anyone by tracker report makes moz pnearly conftown. Evertone else conftown.

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Post Post #2572  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:54 pm

I'm really skeptical of the entire notion of analyzing group composition to find scum. In particular I don't see why I shouldn't believe that the day 1 group of eight players is all town.
  • If it's random, then it's random, and Auro is no more likely than not to be scum for being in that group.
  • If it's just whatever schadd thought would be funny, then I don't trust my ability to outguess the mod on that.
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Post Post #2573  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:15 pm

OK I got some smol yet might bias against a lend removal... I hear you loud and clear though, Mastina. I'll admit you could call me Wilson - I'm on the fence that much with this one.

argh :(

PEDIT: Flea has a meds change again :P Flea gets whappy around this time and is trying to megabrain this, and failing miserably. Flea is also attempting to process a wall.
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Post Post #2574  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:19 pm

I'm on board with Auro, Vax and OWER, reluctantly-yet-decreasingly-so with Lend.

VOTE: OWER Screw it, I'm going here for now. I wanna see OWER come spew their alignment.
fwea is faerse - v strong! - Nora being Adnorable :P
Chaos, is the only true path to happiness. Now, would you like a sandwich?
Meds change? Meds change. Have fun because these are some proper beasties (like DUI level beasties :P)
Do you wanna get to know me? Like are you really sure about that? GTKAS!

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