Happy Face Mafia (Game Over)

[willow1]

no, but in the post I quoted i called it decent in a way that heavily implied it was +town. this is both a correct interpretation and very reasonable for her to remember it as.

[Raya36]

I see. I need to not try to read when I'm exhausted

I can honestly see both sides to this. I understand why Titus is suspicious even though it's true that nothing about your stance truly changed

[Bear HUGS]

It is kinda scummy when a lot of us have agreed the duel is probably TvT and we have the option to not vote at all. People still voting anyway could include scum hoping it'll get enough traction to go through anyway if the wagon gets close

at the same time no elim is very anti town because it gives scum a "free kill"

Dunn, I never said you were scum so uh, direct that at Nancy. I don't really care what her or pooky's read on you is because I stand firm on my TR.

And Rhetti, just don't gladiate if ur not certain. It doesn't matter too much tho I do think that no elimination is anti town and we should kill Titus today. Imma consult my other heads but I do think Titus should die today.

[Bear HUGS]

Noraa here. Have not caught up but I don't understand why Dunn is scummy in any way?
Like why is voting Titus scummy? Right now there is a gladiate on Titus and rhetti. We can ONLY vote those two. Why is it scummy?

If Dunn is seriously scum here, then he figured out how to manipulate his tone to fool me whether on purpose or subconsciously. I dunno which but its unlikely imo. I have a soul TR on him atm.

Noraa, I really think you’re wrong here.

[Bear HUGS]

I don't think people should claim mask/no mask anymore although VFP is probably town for stepping up in this situation

I'm not opposed to letting the timer run out, I didn't feel great about that target, but I need to ask the mod about my role

why the fuck did you gladiate then?
gladiator isn't a pro town role. if you're town, which im assuming scum didnt gladiate scum day 1, why are even using this role again? It's like such a horrible role for town...

Nah, we literally won Labrynth due to duckling’s brilliant gladiate on scum!Wisdom, since he was hardpushing town!bg Shoshin and he stopped her miselim.

[Bear HUGS]

I made a rushed decision, I'm sorry

you can blame me tbh tho i am leaning towards elimming still

Don’t beat yourself up so hard @Rhetti but no Willow, I 100% am opposed to Titus elim because I’m not only convinced she’s town now but probably right on at least 2 scum.

The way Dunn is white knighting a pretty much contentless post afk slot, makes me think that if Dunn is scum, Penguin is very likely a buddy.

I think Raya continues to get townier with each post. Her entire reaction to my asking for a no vote, pings town to me.

[Bear HUGS]

[ *]A player is faded when the majority votes the same player. Once the player is faded, the faded and the living players may talk until I get back and post the flip.
[*]

If the deadline is reached before the fade has reached, the day will end with

No Fade

.

@VFP

Everyone read: we aren’t required to fade ANYONE. Both Rhetti and Titus are town. I think the decision is pretty damned obvious..

We can either help scum out by handing them a free miselim or we don’t. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

[Dunnstral]

A duel has started between Titus and Retti! They are the only valid votes and have been reset.

I can quote things too

[Dunnstral]

It is kinda scummy when a lot of us have agreed the duel is probably TvT and we have the option to not vote at all. People still voting anyway could include scum hoping it'll get enough traction to go through anyway if the wagon gets close

at the same time no elim is very anti town because it gives scum a "free kill"

Dunn, I never said you were scum so uh, direct that at Nancy. I don't really care what her or pooky's read on you is because I stand firm on my TR.

And Rhetti, just don't gladiate if ur not certain. It doesn't matter too much tho I do think that no elimination is anti town and we should kill Titus today. Imma consult my other heads but I do think Titus should die today.

Noraa here. Have not caught up but I don't understand why Dunn is scummy in any way?
Like why is voting Titus scummy? Right now there is a gladiate on Titus and rhetti. We can ONLY vote those two. Why is it scummy?

If Dunn is seriously scum here, then he figured out how to manipulate his tone to fool me whether on purpose or subconsciously. I dunno which but its unlikely imo. I have a soul TR on him atm.

Noraa, I really think you’re wrong here.

This is an annoying way to play as a hydra

[Bear HUGS]

I'm fine with voting Titus but if consensus is we should no vote, I don't have qualms with it

If we literally didn’t have a 3rd option, I would agree but thankfully we do.

I was right on Bell and I’m also right on Titus. We aren’t elimming scum today, no matter what. And I’m not going to help them out because Titus is not only town. she’s probably right on at least 2/3 scum (if 3 exist).

That’s why I’m arguing this so hard. Titus is going to solve this game even if we’re not alive to do it.

[willow1]

dunn I do not know why you act like letting deadline pass w/o majority is not an option

there are a few different ways it can resolve but intentional tie/no majority are both plausible no elim scenarios

[Bear HUGS]

It is kinda scummy when a lot of us have agreed the duel is probably TvT and we have the option to not vote at all. People still voting anyway could include scum hoping it'll get enough traction to go through anyway if the wagon gets close

at the same time no elim is very anti town because it gives scum a "free kill"

Dunn, I never said you were scum so uh, direct that at Nancy. I don't really care what her or pooky's read on you is because I stand firm on my TR.

And Rhetti, just don't gladiate if ur not certain. It doesn't matter too much tho I do think that no elimination is anti town and we should kill Titus today. Imma consult my other heads but I do think Titus should die today.

Noraa here. Have not caught up but I don't understand why Dunn is scummy in any way?
Like why is voting Titus scummy? Right now there is a gladiate on Titus and rhetti. We can ONLY vote those two. Why is it scummy?

If Dunn is seriously scum here, then he figured out how to manipulate his tone to fool me whether on purpose or subconsciously. I dunno which but its unlikely imo. I have a soul TR on him atm.

Noraa, I really think you’re wrong here.

This is an annoying way to play as a hydra

I don’t think Noraa understands that we aren’t actually required to fade anyone and you can be annoyed. So freaking what?

[Bear HUGS]

A duel has started between Titus and Retti! They are the only valid votes and have been reset.

I can quote things too

And your point in doing so is?

[Bear HUGS]

It is kinda scummy when a lot of us have agreed the duel is probably TvT and we have the option to not vote at all. People still voting anyway could include scum hoping it'll get enough traction to go through anyway if the wagon gets close

at the same time no elim is very anti town because it gives scum a "free kill"

Dunn, I never said you were scum so uh, direct that at Nancy. I don't really care what her or pooky's read on you is because I stand firm on my TR.

And Rhetti, just don't gladiate if ur not certain. It doesn't matter too much tho I do think that no elimination is anti town and we should kill Titus today. Imma consult my other heads but I do think Titus should die today.

No freaking way. I’m not voting out obvtown who is probably going to win us the game. I don’t mean any disrespect but I am super insistent on this. Fading Titus is a huge mistake.

[Dunnstral]

dunn I do not know why you act like letting deadline pass w/o majority is not an option

there are a few different ways it can resolve but intentional tie/no majority are both plausible no elim scenarios

I don't think we should assume things without asking. Right now I think it's unclear enough that it's possible it's not allowed.

[Dunnstral]

By the way, I don't think Titus is so town that we should no vote instead of eliminating her.

[willow1]

i fully recognize it might in fact be impossible

you're acting like it's a no so we should stop suggesting it, not acting like it's unclear

[Bear HUGS]

[ *]A player is faded when the majority votes the same player. Once the player is faded, the faded and the living players may talk until I get back and post the flip.
[*]

If the deadline is reached before the fade has reached, the day will end with

No Fade

.

@VFP

@Dunn, Maria made this abundantly clear. She literally said if the fade doesn’t happen by deadline. it’s NOT happening. If we didn’t have that option, it would be totally different but Rhetti isn’t in any danger, all we do is not make things easier for scum.

[Bear HUGS]

[ *]A player is faded when the majority votes the same player. Once the player is faded, the faded and the living players may talk until I get back and post the flip.
[*]

If the deadline is reached before the fade has reached, the day will end with

No Fade

.

@VFP

@mod, are we required to vote anyone?

I think Maria made it super obvious because otherwise, how would it even be possible for the day to end in a no fade?

[Bear HUGS]

Okay thats an option then.

My last game with Titus scum, Titus did seem to be more distant with the game and just didn't give much in responses. Mainly the player that Titus was calling scum, she just never gave a real reason to. Here Titus is arguing scum and giving reasons even when gladiator is in effect.
I would expect Titus to take the lim here and just try not to give any information out at all as scum.

Yeah, that’s when I knew. In Death Curse, she basically flailed and pretty much did the same thing to Taylor as Robert did to Willow. Scum!Titus never obvtowns under pressure and I’ve played numerous games with her as both alignments. She’s town.

[WhemeStar]

Bear why is titus obv town?

[VFP]

I fully support a no lim here.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85940

Read scum Titus here. There are only 37 posts to read so it's not a lot to go through.
Titus was calling Clidd as scum. Look at the change when Titus is set as a lim. Self hammer and defeatist. Even before this, Titus is giving no information up. The gladiator move was basically the hammer in this game originally, but Titus has shown a complete opposit response here.

[Flea The Magician]

Dunn doesn't feel like they're sincerely pushing game progression, there is a lot of "Yes, but PlayerX" and just shuffling of players.

VOTE: No Yeet

[Raya36]

It is kinda scummy when a lot of us have agreed the duel is probably TvT and we have the option to not vote at all. People still voting anyway could include scum hoping it'll get enough traction to go through anyway if the wagon gets close

at the same time no elim is very anti town because it gives scum a "free kill"

No elim is better than a town elim though

dunn I do not know why you act like letting deadline pass w/o majority is not an option

there are a few different ways it can resolve but intentional tie/no majority are both plausible no elim scenarios

I don't think we should assume things without asking. Right now I think it's unclear enough that it's possible it's not allowed.

If not asking I'd its allowed is your obstacle then why didnt you ask? Or do you want the miselim to go through?

[Dunnstral]

Trivia: The last time Flea has gone 2 posts without talking about me was 9 days ago