FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt - 2 Game Over

[penguin_alien]

With 4 servants alive, it will take 3 votes to burn a servant.

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[Servant Caster]

Well there's 9 possible alignment combinations and I stated yours and Assassin's.

The odds of me guessing them by "chance" is 1/81 in pure probability terms.

There's no motivation for scum!me to clear Assassin with a roleblock, it only removes a player from the mis-elim pool and really gains me nothing since I've already been cleared by Beast.

Furthermore if I fake a roleblock on Assassin and he actually did commit an action that resolved, it would blow my claim up - this makes even less sense to do for me after I have already been check-cleared by Beast.

It's not pure "chance", though, you'd be able to deduce what was possible based on what info we revealed about our roles - I think almost anyone could have guessed my alignment was Chaotic Evil after my claim about my neighborhood abilities. Acting as if it would be purely random is incredibly disingenuous.

And I just realized, you'd have to have claimed SOMETHING to Berserker when you neighborized him - maybe some slight protown utility, something to seem good, and you'd have to be accountable for using it. something like that roleblock.

I can't say for sure, I'm just speculating, the only advantage I have is that I know something is wrong. I can't have made up some claim that makes me sound better, I only have the truth.

You're just making things up at this point.

[Servant Assassin]

I was expecting way more of a fight from whoever is scum. assassin what are you thinking right now?

I received the other * from berserker by the way. Doesn’t seem like he claimed it in either neighborhood.

That it's Alter. Basically, I think the mechanics are too strong to ignore. It's like not going all in with Kings just because Aces exist.

Caster highly likely did not have their NP N2. The only unconfirmed ability caster has claimed is the roleblock on me.. and it doesn't make any sense from any angle I can think of to fake that on me.

That and I think if Alter were town and realized mechanics are not in your favor, you'd really need to attack someone on play. Which hasn't happened.

Bit of a double standard I admit, since we've all been lazy too.

[Servant Alter Ego]

This is about how I expected it to go. I'm just surprised it took this long.

The thing is, I don't have a good explanation. If I were scum I'd make some bullshit up, push it as hard as I can. But I really don't have a clue. I dislike how Caster has been talking this phase but that hardly counts as anything solid. I don't want to force a case because it'd feel dishonest. Maybe I'm just deflated because I went all out yesterday trying to solve inside a box that turned out to be wrong. Anything I attempt would just be begging the question. I'm not sure why me not being able to come up with anything is supposed to be a sign of me being scum - as either alignment, the default position is that if I do nothing, I lose. The only reason I've been stuck like this is because

I really have no idea how to show that someone else is scum

. That's just me being honest rather than fabricating a case.

It's just...hard, you know? I'm sitting here dealing with an impossible problem from my POV, I don't want to be the reason town loses after the start we got off to, but I...don't have a good way to explain it, obviously

some

kind of mechanical fuckery happened and is going to be the reason we lose. And it sucks. The thing is, in a hypothetical situation where I was one of you, I would probably completely disregard what's being said by someone who's POE'd by mechanics. So I can't figure out some imaginary concept of what I "should" be doing, because in reality I know it's never going to be enough. I'm at my wits' end here. I hate this game.

[Servant Caster]

If you're town then we got screwed by mech at some point along the way and that's not really anyone's fault.

I kind of doubt there is mech that would explicitly screw up the town in a game where the role distribution is 4 v 10 because that's kind of nuts?

I've re-read my role PM and asked cabd about whether I roleblock factional kills and double checked everything so it's just a locked mech win unless Avenger somehow misread the PM and I'm never in a million years going to believe that a Friendly Neighbor is fake or someone misread their friendly message notification. In that scenario the fault is Avenger's alone and I won't really care because such a thing is unwinnable.

[Servant Caster]

sigh i am getting scared again :<

time to do another reread

[Servant Caster]

I just think it's really disappointing that it feels like I'm the only person still playing :<

[Servant Caster]

Now that I'm cleared and it probably doesn't matter, in case I do die, I gave my charm to Alter (D1)... which means roleblocking him won't clear him etc (don't do it). My flip will make it clear what it does.

I'll take a look at rider/avenger's isos at some point.

Alter what does the charm that Assassin gave you actually do?

[Servant Lancer]

Like I said, my brain just keeps going in circles. I’ve been townreading alter for so long but I don’t really see how it can be anyone else. I don’t want to be wrong and lose because of it :/

[Servant Caster]

I am ok with voting Assassin instead of Alter just so I can lose to really good play rather than mech bullshit if that's what you want to do

[Servant Caster]

I just know I'm town so I dunno what Assassin could be unless he's like immune to Debuffs and not immune to investigations or whatever?

[Servant Caster]

like I know I roleblocked Assassin on Night Two.

My roleblock gives me * if it blocks any action.

I didn't get *

so either:

(1) Assassin didn't do anything on Night 2

or

(2) My roleblock on Assassin failed for some reason Night 2.

[Servant Caster]

is anyone alive out there?



(ノωヽ)

[Servant Assassin]

I exist.

Haven't been doing much. Was checking last game's roles to make sure the caster class didn't get a 4th skill or anything. The Anti-hero ability scared me for 1 sec though. I sympathize with Alter's last post, because were I in their position and was town, that's precisely what I'd be feeling.

[Servant Lancer]

so you do think alter could be town?

I simultaneously want to get this over with and am afraid of voting anyone

[Cabd]

With 4 servants alive, it will take 3 votes to burn a servant.

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[Servant Caster]

so you do think alter could be town?

I simultaneously want to get this over with and am afraid of voting anyone

I mean it's possible that I got roleblocked or redirected or Assassin is just naturally immune to debuffs ?


It's like 25:75 in my head but I get cold feet re-reading Alter Ego's iso :<

[Servant Alter Ego]

I'm sorry, feeling sick tonight, will try to post tomorrow

[Cabd]

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[Servant Alter Ego]

I am ok with voting Assassin instead of Alter just so I can lose to really good play rather than mech bullshit if that's what you want to do

If you're really town, you shouldn't be voting based on who you think "played well", you should be voting based on who you think is scum. Don't hide behind lancer.

[Servant Lancer]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Servant Assassin]

I'm going to rip the bandaid off.

VOTE: Alter Ego

[Servant Lancer]

ugh I don’t know what else to do. let’s get this over with I guess..

VOTE: alter ego

[Servant Alter Ego]

unvote

[Servant Alter Ego]

please