AI UPCIK PART II | Compromised

Almost50 · Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:40 am

In post 1423, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: [v/]Titus[/v]

VOTE: [Titus

Can't even bloody type!

Taroumaru · Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:45 am

In post 1419, Radical Rat wrote:Hmm, if only there were some big and obvious moment where a scummy player made a huge scene and killed the Ari wagon, and forced Town to rush someone else immediately before deadline.

This sounds sarcastic, do point me there please.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:57 am

In post 814, Almost50 wrote:
Aris is confirmed a townie to me

In post 815, Almost50 wrote:
Aris is confirmed a townie to me

In post 816, Almost50 wrote:
Aris is confirmed a townie to me

In post 817, Almost50 wrote:
Aris is confirmed a townie to me

Skybird · Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:28 am

But who would you prefer to lim today A50?

Skybird · Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:37 am

Taro, read the last few pages of D1. What do you see happening there?

Almost50 · Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:49 am

In post 1427, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 814, Almost50 wrote:
Aris is confirmed a townie
to me

In post 815, Almost50 wrote:
Aris is confirmed a townie
to me

In post 816, Almost50 wrote:
Aris is confirmed a townie
to me

In post 817, Almost50 wrote:
Aris is confirmed a townie
to me

Almost50 · Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:51 am

In post 1428, Skybird wrote:But who would you prefer to lim today A50?

Titus or Dwlee. these are the two slots I have nothing going FOR so far.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:53 am

Reminder to have Dwlee as hammer vote

Almost50 · Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:58 am

I don't think he self-hammers

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:22 am

In post 1422, Skybird wrote:Dwlee why are you voting MT? She is trying to solve the game imo. Do you see it differently?

I'm not anymore

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:22 am

In post 1431, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1428, Skybird wrote:But who would you prefer to lim today A50?
Titus or Dwlee. these are the two slots I have nothing going FOR so far.

Seriously? You're ridiculous given your stunts last day phase and now this

We have a big case on ndmath and you want to kill me for not doing enough this game

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:23 am

In post 1432, Gamma Emerald wrote:Reminder to have Dwlee as hammer vote

Ye

Titus · Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:29 am

In post 1435, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1431, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1428, Skybird wrote:But who would you prefer to lim today A50?
Titus or Dwlee. these are the two slots I have nothing going FOR so far.
Seriously? You're ridiculous given your stunts last day phase and now this

We have a big case on ndmath and you want to kill me for not doing enough this game

I'm actually going to case A50 based on their vote on me. It set off all sorts of red flags.

Titus · Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:36 am

Spoiler: A50 posts RE NDMATH

In post 1423, Almost50 wrote:IMHO, Titus is a better lim than ND, because I don't feel the WIN from her. I do understand the trial/jury thing but she sounds s bit more committed elsewhere still. Not a hill I would die fighting on though.

VOTE: [v/]Titus[/v]

Let's break this down.

Opportunistically voting a counterwagon to a slot that has done nothing.
His rationale is the sheepish that I have done nothing (ok on its own not in context).
He acts as if this is a pressure vote (not a hill he would die on) but was unwilling to pressure NDMath.

Meanwhile (see spoilers) his NDMath read was allegedly subnull. Yet he does nothing to act until after NDMath is wagoned.

Titus · Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:37 am

The only non red flag I recall on A50 was him confusing this game for my vengeful townie game (now completed).

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:44 am

I'll go a50 on a ndmath red flip

Titus · Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:50 am

Where is the NDMath case?

@A50, What do you have going for NDMath?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:52 am

In post 1265, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 663, Almost50 wrote:Oh, and the definition of a good argument is: Does NOT include the words/expressions "I feel" or "it looks like" or the like.
:sweating:

Ari went to X-1 on page 28 and A50 didn't claim a N0 inno then...... how the HELL did everyone buy the innocent when it came later? (I have that correct no?)

Kind of like Skybird switching to Kop from a distaste for the Ari wagon. NDMath sort of egged Dwlee to hammer (692) which i really don't like i think scum probably chills and sees if a hammer happens (assuming Ari is town)
In post 702, Almost50 wrote:@RR: Let's assume you are Town. Would you rather kill s Townie over No Lim?
In post 703, Radical Rat wrote:Yes. Yes I would.
In post 704, Almost50 wrote:OK..

VOTE: Radical Rat
LOL that's effed up

Yuki do you still find RR scummy? (And if this question was answered recently I am sorry but i have limited game sense and im reviewing back here tonight so yeah).
In post 726, Gypyx wrote:
votecount 1.12
Radical Rat (4) :
Taroumatu ; Almost50 ; Yuki Takeya ; MegAzumaril

Aristophanes (3) :
Dragon Of The West ; unwnd

Kop (3) :
NDmath ; Skybird ; Gamma Emerald

Almost50 (2) :
superbowl9 ; Radical Rat

Dragon Of The West (1) :
Aristophanes

Skybird (1) :
Kop

Not Voting (2) :
Dwlee99 ; Titus

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-10-03 10:06:01), it takes 9 votes to execute rsomeone
I probably would have voted Kop. That looks worse for Tarou better for NDMath (Although to be fair, Kop was town and also NDmath was complacent with an RR hammer). I probably like Skybird/Gamma better, yuki an unwnd worse

Oh Kop claimed his role was easily confirmable i forgot about that. I have no idea who I would have voted, possibly Ari then cause i wouldnt have had access to the info i do now. Hmph. Unwnd is still complacent with RR anyway

Tarou is Yuki obvious town to you?
In post 789, Dwlee99 wrote:Can people go back to ari? Seriously, why did that wagon evaporate? I townread DotW and RR here and a50 I thought was town but he's being scummy af now. So either wagon a50 for all the wagoning shenanigans he's been up to or wagon ari and I will hammer either.
Yeah probably this

In post 1267, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 811, NDMath wrote:Am feeling better about the Ari vote than I was earlier but still would prefer RR.

I'll be back a little before deadline in case nothing's hammered by then but the situation appears it'll be under control.
it doesn't feel like you were particularly concerned which wagon died -- which fits with my idea that most or all were town. Which also makes sense with how most of the game is low impact, i expect scum could get away with leading wagons easier.

Hey we're to the fake Inno on Ari. Originally I was like "okay well scum followed the vote without caring, why?" -- I am thinking it's because there's scum in the voters and both wagons were town. I guess that's not an earth shattering conclusion though but it makes sense given it seems this game is super fucking slow and people can plausibly be like "Whatever we just need to get something thru" without questioning much

I think if there were more town on RR there'd be a "Bullshit no way" response. Or if Ari were town and RR!scum there'd also have been a bullshit no way. But.. there wasn't.

Titus · Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:10 am

Just a heads up MT, I moved our large theme closer to signups since my homicide trial got delayed for awhile and I'm doing a DUU trial this week.

Almost50 · Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:11 am

In post 1435, Dwlee99 wrote:We have a big case on ndmath

We do? I haven't been reading tbh. Where is the case?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:17 am

A50...

Almost50 · Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:23 am

Oh, OK... let me go ISO ND to try and remember why I TR'd him earlier

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:33 am

I just quoted it my guy

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:34 am

UNVOTE:
Only to be able to hammer

Almost50 · Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:50 am

@Dwlee & @Titus:

In post 105, NDMath wrote:
In post 93, Almost50 wrote:
In post 91, Skybird wrote:Are you sure you are the oldest person here? I think I might have you beat.
Show your hand..

A50 leantown from this post alone.

Early pocket attempt detected

Result: SUCCESS

In post 147, NDMath wrote:VOTE: momrangal

I will sheep the water mouse.

Given mom was a suspect of mine I found this vote plausible

In post 168, NDMath wrote:
In post 148, superbowl9 wrote:Bad move rubiks cube
I mean I wasn't exactly trying all that hard to make a good one.

This isn't exactly how "Scum trying to make a good impression" responds here (220 is a continuation of that thought)

In post 318, NDMath wrote:
In post 312, Aristophanes wrote:I just read 4 pages and despite the vote changes I don't feel like anything actually happened??

Maybe I should restart reading the game. It feels so preliminary still tho
Do you have a better method of making something out of nothing than shifting around votes?

This also supports the idea that ND is trying to "make things happen" by building wagons for reactions (I don't necessarily approve, but it's the way half of the players on MS choose to play on D1)

In post 381, NDMath wrote:
In post 350, Dwlee99 wrote:Who would y'all dayvig if you had a compulsive one?
Kitty, but def wouldn't want to shoot now.

imo the unwnd/rat interaction looks good for unwnd and meh for rat.

More mindmeld. Remember that my main 2 "pushes" on D1 were mom & Kop? Even NOW I still agree that unwnd (now Pooky) looks much townier than RR still. (I do realize Kitty got replaced by Kop who was then shot at night, which may look iffy, but would scum explicitly state whom they were going to kill this early?)

In post 382, NDMath wrote:I think gamma's light defense of unwnd likely comes from town, just since I'm not sure scum!gamma would write it.

Scumlean on Titus; nothing in her iso catches my eye (which is abnormal even for this early) besides #366.

Again.. even NOW this is still valid. ALL of it.

In post 529, NDMath wrote:I agree that Skybird's scumread on dwlee is weird, but I don't see anything scum-indicative about it. Overall her activity/presence is strong and I townlean their more aggressive/direct approach.

Yet another read we agree on.

In post 749, NDMath wrote:VOTE: RR
I definitely prefer this to A50.

This is probably the towniest A50 has been in my experience with him
; he's been heavily advancing the game, his tone is well-intentioned, and the high activity is also a good sign for him.

@Gamma, What does 'some room' even mean this late into the day phase?

The bolded is a TRUE STATEMENT (or at least I think it is. I didn't check how many games I've played with ND or how they went)

And that was it for D1

On D2 he didn't bother questioning my "D1 stunt" as Dwlee calls it. I would have expected SCUM (side-eyes RR) to make it that

the

subject of the day. What better opportunity to shift all attention off Scum and focus it on a Town player?

I started to lose concentration at about this time. So that's why ND was still TOWN to me (I even FORGOT the details of D1. I just remembered he was a strong TR to me by the end of the day, and the start of D2 confirmed it)