Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Nashville Dreams]

VOTE: Dunn

[MathBlade]

Intro post.

Why didn't you ask that prior to your VCA?

~Titus

Because it wasn’t relevant to my VCA. It was about making a PoE. A dead person can’t be in a PoE

[MathBlade]

Disagree? Agree? Thoughts Math?

I can’t analyze all that while working.

Glad you’re voting Dunn though.

[MathBlade]

This game features two scum factions. Their win conditions are not compatible to allow a joint win, and there is no such thing in this game as a draw between only certain factions. There is also a single third party role called the malefactor. Its win condition is "You win when the town loses." This player is not informed of any antitown players' identities, nor vice versa.

Yay reading fail for me. /s thanks

[Nashville Dreams]

Intro post.

Why didn't you ask that prior to your VCA?

~Titus

Because it wasn’t relevant to my VCA. It was about making a PoE. A dead person can’t be in a PoE

How can you make a PoE based on votes without understanding the knowledge and motivations of the players voting? If you suspected butterchurn knew the other scums, then everyone he voted is highly likely town and factors into your PoE.

~Titus

[MathBlade]

For someone who is supposedly focused on wagons and how people respond to them, you seem to have very little interest in seeing how the person being wagoned responds to it. Why are you so interested in forcing a wagon through on an unclaimed slot, most of which likely happened while he was asleep, judging by his usual posting times? I'm not "requesting a stall", this is basic level play that anyone should be doing as town. Don't pretend like you don't know better.

Butterchurn was shot N2. Assuming it’s a mafia kill then one of two things happened
ND is scared mafia
Or more likely ND is town and butterchurn was pushing town

Whoever butterchurn voted is more likely to be town and defended more likely to be some kind of scum

You mean like here?

[MathBlade]

Butter knowing or not knowing scum doesn’t change their motivation. They want town to lose.

[SCP 682]

you're both town now Chill

[Nashville Dreams]

Butter knowing or not knowing scum doesn’t change their motivation. They want town to lose.

It does. Scum who know their partners act differently and can shield them better. They can know who to signal to.

For instance, if butterchurn knew someone was a partner, they could choose to bus for cred or not based on the position of his teammates. If butter doesn't know the position, he likely takes a harder defense.

This should have been something you at least thought about prior to your VCA.

~Titus

[Nashville Dreams]

you're both town now Chill

My data and his play have eviscerated my prior townread on the slot.

[SCP 682]

i think my primary reason for putting dunn above my "bottom 5" was the way the wagon built super fast on him and included my bottom 5 so im still apprehensive there but I like I did earlier will not be getting in the way of the wagon as i dont explicitly townread them really.

I still would prefer to flip in Klick/Mena as my confidence is higher there - but I do voice that I am swayed by titus' analysis. I normally say VCA is cringe but in multiball - titus is correct that bussing is less likely ergo it raises the usefulness.

[SCP 682]

you're both town now Chill

My data and his play have eviscerated my prior townread on the slot.

please consider the npom context.

I dont think math has an agenda here as I usually can tell when I see him as scum (at least recently as I've pinned his meta down, I know you hate it, but its an accurate tool for me that *works*, as most people are not good at breaking it too easily)

like the way math comes off is uninformed to me.

I'll at least reason with you - math is not the play for this dayphase and I think we can totally agree on that point.

[Nashville Dreams]

i think my primary reason for putting dunn above my "bottom 5" was the way the wagon built super fast on him and included my bottom 5 so im still apprehensive there but I like I did earlier will not be getting in the way of the wagon as i dont explicitly townread them really.

I still would prefer to flip in Klick/Mena as my confidence is higher there - but I do voice that I am swayed by titus' analysis. I normally say VCA is cringe but in multiball - titus is correct that bussing is less likely ergo it raises the usefulness.

I can see this. I'm willing to do Menalque.

~Titus

[Nashville Dreams]

you're both town now Chill

My data and his play have eviscerated my prior townread on the slot.

please consider the npom context.

I dont think math has an agenda here as I usually can tell when I see him as scum (at least recently as I've pinned his meta down, I know you hate it, but its an accurate tool for me that *works*, as most people are not good at breaking it too easily)

like the way math comes off is uninformed to me.

I'll at least reason with you - math is not the play for this dayphase and I think we can totally agree on that point.

Agree for now. Picking a fight with Math is not something I want to do unless 100% confident. I can't not comment on how shitty his play is right now.

[Nashville Dreams]

I meant with the last paragraph.

I'm not considering meta here. I'll respect you use it but like you treat my VCA, it's not your thing.

[MathBlade]

you're both town now Chill

My data and his play have eviscerated my prior townread on the slot.

I don’t see where in your data you make a conclusion about me except that I am not a wolf.

I fail to understand your points here?

Like if I am not a wolf, and by play I am not mafia, and I can’t be maleficient then that makes me town? Help me how you get where you are.

Hmmm my play is shitty for pushing likely mafia and you agree with me my top read has to die?

Very confused I am

[MathBlade]

This really feels like you want to play a heroine.

Which sure if you want to be “the heroine” who caught scum ans caught Dunn when he likely flips scum of some kind go ahead

I am not getting into a power struggle with you but in the five minutes I could skim your VCA there were more contradictions than in liar liar.

[Nashville Dreams]

This really feels like you want to play a heroine.

Which sure if you want to be “the heroine” who caught scum ans caught Dunn when he likely flips scum of some kind go ahead

I am not getting into a power struggle with you but in the five minutes I could skim your VCA there were more contradictions than in liar liar.

I'd like you to explain the contradictions. That's the whole point in making it public and asking for your opinion.

[Nashville Dreams]

I don't want to be a heroine. That's why I have my pool but I'm not pushing anyone in particular. *shrug*

[Nashville Dreams]

math, my love, are you scum again?

you feel like scum again.

[Nashville Dreams]

Town >>
Nashville Dreams < Flavor Leaf < Klick <MegAzumarill < tictac < Nero Cain < Sword of Ducks

Null >>

Save The Dragons < cassowary < SCP 682 < bnuuy < The Keeper < Menalque

Scum >>

Cat Scratch Fever < Dunnstral < MonkeyMan576

[MathBlade]

math, my love, are you scum again?

you feel like scum again.

No I am not scum, just annoyed with this and work.

I will later tonight.

[Nashville Dreams]

you're both town now Chill

My data and his play have eviscerated my prior townread on the slot.

please consider the npom context.

I dont think math has an agenda here as I usually can tell when I see him as scum (at least recently as I've pinned his meta down, I know you hate it, but its an accurate tool for me that *works*, as most people are not good at breaking it too easily)

like the way math comes off is uninformed to me.

I'll at least reason with you - math is not the play for this dayphase and I think we can totally agree on that point.

I defitenyl wont be pushing for math's elim td
but maybe soon

idk

i want to give him a chance.

[Nero Cain]

or here's a wild idea, why not sheep SCP and vote out Keeper?

[MathBlade]

or here's a wild idea, why not sheep SCP and vote out Keeper?

Nah. Dunn is more likely scum.