Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[professotic]

Begging Town to not let your team (Lunar Lose)


Cause if you don’t open wolf, I assure you Dingle or Ydrass WILL go over and you will lose.

[Past Present Future]

@Dangle, who do you think are MMRs buddies, because I’ve been pouring over their ISO as well as the VCs and I still can’t figure it out but what I do know is that since people are wrongly sr me, I know I’m probably not long for this game, so absolutely nothing would make me happier than limming one of their buddies, so if it’s not you, then please help me to do that. If my fate is to either to ultimately get either miselimed, misvigged or less likely nk’d, I’d feel less bummed about it if I took out scum on my way out.

Tbh you're unlikely to be Lunar imo so if you want to be townread, you should be hunting for Solar. That's the primary reason I don't townread you - I don't see you pushing that much, and your primary push lately has been DDS, who can't be Solar

Okay, you have a valid point but we have only had one scum flipped so far and that was a Lunar. My primary method of scum hunting is either NKA ot VCA and there has been no night kills and I can’t get much use out of VCA without a scumflip. If you have any better ideas as what you think I can do more to also find Solars, then please tell me.

I think people who are unlikely partners with MMR but are still scummy = more likely to be solar

What do you think of fb?

I’d consider voting Fire but I liked FA’s posting. What do you think of FA’s posting?

[Past Present Future]

@T-Bone

I’m giving you a chance.
You can vote the Porkens slot that can be Solar here.


Or

You can vote me out, a town.


And I’ll leave a legacy and force town to execute Dingle or Ydrass tomorrow and your Lunar Team loses cause you voted me out.

Why do you think Ydrasse is scum? Weren’t you tr STD? The fact that CSF couldn’t even tell which faction she could possibly be aligned with made me not at all confident in voting her and considering Dangle who was previously tr her, suddenly voted her. How can you think they’re still aligned?

[Past Present Future]

I will say that the sheer number of replacements is probably the main reason this game is so dead. I want to see what Porkens’ replacement does and if I don’t like them. I’d have 0 problem yeeting them.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

@T-Bone

I’m giving you a chance.
You can vote the Porkens slot that can be Solar here.


Or

You can vote me out, a town.


And I’ll leave a legacy and force town to execute Dingle or Ydrass tomorrow and your Lunar Team loses cause you voted me out.

What about firebringer?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I’d consider voting Fire but I liked FA’s posting. What do you think of FA’s posting?

I think her posting made her probably not lunar since she pushed MMR a lot

The conversation i had with firebringer earlier was bizarre, and i didn't think he was sorting me in good faith. the things that he was concerned about also felt nitpicky

[Past Present Future]

Frozen Angel

mastina

, focus your efforts into making this happen please
I feel like this hits the sweet spot of 'lowest on your reads' and 'most likely to happen' on that wagon

VOTE: Frozen Angel

Why did you feel so confident on FA!scum? I read her as being really townie? That’s my main hesitation with Fire but I’m surprised you were so confident on FA being scum. I liked a lot of her posts.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I’d consider voting Fire but I liked FA’s posting. What do you think of FA’s posting?

I think her posting made her probably not lunar since she pushed MMR a lot

The conversation i had with firebringer earlier was bizarre, and i didn't think he was sorting me in good faith. the things that he was concerned about also felt nitpicky

I also think the confidence he has in ydrasse and DDS town is weird

[Past Present Future]

I’d consider voting Fire but I liked FA’s posting. What do you think of FA’s posting?

I think her posting made her probably not lunar since she pushed MMR a lot

The conversation i had with firebringer earlier was bizarre, and i didn't think he was sorting me in good faith. the things that he was concerned about also felt nitpicky

Yeah, I didn’t like his vote on you but FA hard defended your predecessor as hardtown. That was one of the reasons I liked FA but I’ll take another look.

I’d vote Fire over Ydrasse I think if it came to that. I see no resistance to a Ydra wagon for one thing. It was the same thing with Mastina on d1.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

@T-Bone

I’m giving you a chance.
You can vote the Porkens slot that can be Solar here.


Or

You can vote me out, a town.


And I’ll leave a legacy and force town to execute Dingle or Ydrass tomorrow and your Lunar Team loses cause you voted me out.

Why do you think Ydrasse is scum? Weren’t you tr STD? The fact that CSF couldn’t even tell which faction she could possibly be aligned with made me not at all confident in voting her and considering Dangle who was previously tr her, suddenly voted her. How can you think they’re still aligned?

I meant that ydrasse can be either faction. There's nothing about her posting to rule her out as either faction

[Past Present Future]

@T-Bone

I’m giving you a chance.
You can vote the Porkens slot that can be Solar here.


Or

You can vote me out, a town.


And I’ll leave a legacy and force town to execute Dingle or Ydrass tomorrow and your Lunar Team loses cause you voted me out.

Why do you think Ydrasse is scum? Weren’t you tr STD? The fact that CSF couldn’t even tell which faction she could possibly be aligned with made me not at all confident in voting her and considering Dangle who was previously tr her, suddenly voted her. How can you think they’re still aligned?

I meant that ydrasse can be either faction. There's nothing about her posting to rule her out as either faction

Prof thinks Dangle and Ydrasse are aligned but Dangle’s voting her, so I don’t understand how he still thinks that. Yeah and that’s one of the things that gives me pause. I’m feeling with Ydrasse similar to how I felt with furtive albeit less so but it’s enough for me to not want to vote her today.

The lack of resistance is another one. She just suddenly became the top wagon and it seemed like no one had any issue with that. And that’s what I think Yume also said about Mastina. The exception to that is if you ever have a slot like we did in Maria’s Tarot game where Daenarys and Dragons blatantly obvscumed straight out of the gate. There wasn’t any resistance to that but they were flaming obvscum.

[Ydrasse]

i think it ok if i go over
feels like many wolf probably converge on me and be exposed

[T-Bone]

There's been plenty of resistance to Ydrasse just like there has been resistance to a wagon in every single player. The wagon and then dissolution of it is not specific to them. We're incapable of getting anyone over 4 votes it seems.

[Past Present Future]

There's been plenty of resistance to Ydrasse just like there has been resistance to a wagon in every single player. The wagon and then dissolution of it is not specific to them. We're incapable of getting anyone over 4 votes it seems.

Okay tell me why she’s scum? What has been her agenda because scum!Ydrasse almost always has one.

[T-Bone]

I mean I'm voting for Prof right now. For me, Ydrasse exists in the space of players I don't have a strong town read on and they exist as a slot that could be on either scumteam. I only briefly voted for Ydrasse when I was banging my head against the Prof wall the first time and was looking for a compromise that wasn't one of my strong town reads.

[T-Bone]

You kinda illustrated the problem a few posts ago when you said "I think compromised end up on town" and we're at a point where very few players have been willing to compromise. That's why I think we're in the spot we're in.

I don't completely agree with that stance. While I am not willing to compromise on a town read I am okay with compromising on a less than ideal scum read because I think there is value in un-stalling the game.

But like who do you think is scum and why aren't you voting for them? And if you're having a hard time deciding who is scum, why aren't you looking to a top town read or two to see what they are doing? I know you voted DDS at some point, but other than you and Titus disagreeing on your Prof read I don't know who you think is scum except maybe DDS and your voting this day phase reflects that.

I appreciate that you want to defend some slots you think are town, but it would be helpful overall for you to start thinking about who you would vote for top scumread or not. You're like one of three slots who I have no idea who you would like to flip today other than not you.

[T-Bone]

Dawn 1 Final VC

MMR (8) Radical Rat, Past Present Future, Mathblade, furtiveglance, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Ydrasse , Firebringer, Unwnd, [Hammer]

Past Present Future (4) Scarfmanship, MMR, Toogeloo, Enchant,

Unwnd (2) Mastina, Yume

Not Voting (1) T-bone,

Deadline: 1 day*
With 15 alive it took 8 to eliminate.
Deadline was frozen for replacements.

It’s still my theory that at least one of the slots that jumped from us to MMR is probably scum, so maybe Dangle could be scum here? I can’t tell with Ydrasse but the way MMR over the top white knighted STD seems odd if they’re buddies and the arguing with FA doesn’t look partnery, so it has to amongst those three, I think.

Sorry, which three? DDS, and two others?

Ydrasse and Fire. They were all at the end of MMR wagon, so I think it’s likely at least one vote had to be a bus.

I went back looking to see if you had given a readslist after Math had asked everyone for one in case I had missed it but I couldn't find it...But when we talked about reads last time and I asked who you thought could be bussing and you said Ydrasse was in your PoE. What changed between Wednesday and today?

[Past Present Future]

I have a kill list. It's Maid Cafe, T-Bone, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Enchant mostly.

Why is Maid Cafe and T-Bone on the kill list?
I get the others but those two don't exactly seem that scummy based off what I've read.
-Rubella

Considering the efforts MMR made to not appear they needed to not look like they knew Dangle lim would vanilaize them, I’d say this spews both Maid and T-Bone unlikely Lunars.

[T-Bone]

That's a pretty soft affirmation of my slot though you have to admit. Not a strong stance at all.

[T-Bone]

I have a kill list. It's Maid Cafe, T-Bone, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Enchant mostly.

Why is Maid Cafe and T-Bone on the kill list?
I get the others but those two don't exactly seem that scummy based off what I've read.
-Rubella

Considering the efforts MMR made to not appear they needed to not look like they knew Dangle lim would vanilaize them, I’d say this spews both Maid and T-Bone unlikely Lunars.

More importantly....did MMR know about the blessing prior to it being revealed? This is not information we had as town as far as I'm aware. What?

[JunkoChan]

You kinda illustrated the problem a few posts ago when you said "I think compromised end up on town" and we're at a point where very few players have been willing to compromise. That's why I think we're in the spot we're in.

I don't completely agree with that stance. While I am not willing to compromise on a town read I am okay with compromising on a less than ideal scum read because I think there is value in un-stalling the game.

But like who do you think is scum and why aren't you voting for them? And if you're having a hard time deciding who is scum, why aren't you looking to a top town read or two to see what they are doing? I know you voted DDS at some point, but other than you and Titus disagreeing on your Prof read I don't know who you think is scum except maybe DDS and your voting this day phase reflects that.

I appreciate that you want to defend some slots you think are town, but it would be helpful overall for you to start thinking about who you would vote for top scumread or not. You're like one of three slots who I have no idea who you would like to flip today other than not you.

This summarizes my annoyance with this game right now

And why i'll simp t-bone Even tho he might stab me

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I have a kill list. It's Maid Cafe, T-Bone, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Enchant mostly.

Why is Maid Cafe and T-Bone on the kill list?
I get the others but those two don't exactly seem that scummy based off what I've read.
-Rubella

Considering the efforts MMR made to not appear they needed to not look like they knew Dangle lim would vanilaize them, I’d say this spews both Maid and T-Bone unlikely Lunars.

More importantly....did MMR know about the blessing prior to it being revealed? This is not information we had as town as far as I'm aware. What?

Yes, they did 3003

[T-Bone]

No you're right. I completely overlooked that.

[MathBlade]

That’s my annoyance too.

I have been sitting on the sidelines for how long now?

Yet seriously I am the only one getting flak and that’s ducked up.

[T-Bone]

I might need to rethink my assumption about Prof a bit. They knew as in the mod told them because they were picked pregame or they knew because they picked those slots themselves?