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Assumption "All mafia and some townie picked guns" asking for self.
Picking rose as scum is hard to justify.Wizard-Mercenary
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I searched previous games and found scum PT where mafia clearly allowed to discuss what they pick.
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Okay it's then
1 town gun/3 mafia gun or 2 town guns/2 mafia guns
It's unlikely more than 1 mafia member picked rose.Wizard-Mercenary
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I just made 1/10 of my post quota.Wizard-Mercenary
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Protip: vote random anime avatar.In post 51, mfeathers wrote: Just yall wait >:)
Fuck I'm so bad at d1 discussion when there's no nk to go off of. Uh, lovely weather we're having?Wizard-Mercenary
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When memes in general?Wizard-Mercenary
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I think massclaim is good, so we force everyone who claimed gun to shot each other, because i don't believe Mafia didnt Went full 3 gun fun.
Wheme is conftown, unless atleast one gun claims.Wizard-Mercenary
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... Or mafia as clueless as everyone and picked gun to pew pew.Wizard-Mercenary
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I smell you don't have it.In post 89, Titus wrote:
I never would go for that if I have a gun. I would shoot my reads period.In post 87, Enchant wrote: I think massclaim is good, so we force everyone who claimed gun to shot each other, because i don't believe Mafia didnt Went full 3 gun fun.
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Because i have nothing to do.In post 95, Titus wrote:
I might. I might not. Why are you speculating?In post 92, Enchant wrote:
I smell you don't have it.In post 89, Titus wrote:
I never would go for that if I have a gun. I would shoot my reads period.In post 87, Enchant wrote: I think massclaim is good, so we force everyone who claimed gun to shot each other, because i don't believe Mafia didnt Went full 3 gun fun.
Wheme is conftown, unless atleast one gun claims.
Likelyhood you picked rose as town are 90%.
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How exactly it undermines my statement?In post 103, Gamma Emerald wrote:
If one mafia is aware it raises the awareness of all of themIn post 90, Enchant wrote: ... Or mafia as clueless as everyone and picked gun to pew pew.Wizard-Mercenary
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I think after Wheme claimed gun, all 3 other guns are mafia and it's all pointless.Wizard-Mercenary
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howIn post 110, Malakittens wrote:
So wouldn’t you wanna force mafia into claiming gun thenIn post 108, Enchant wrote: I think after Wheme claimed gun, all 3 other guns are mafia and it's all pointless.
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You have wrong opinion on me.In post 118, Aristeia wrote:
you feel like a player who would pick gunIn post 115, Enchant wrote: Why not?Wizard-Mercenary
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Because it implues mafia need to remove me at some point.In post 122, Aristeia wrote: ok so why did you decide to pick rose?Wizard-Mercenary
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Yes.In post 132, Aristeia wrote: also I guess if no1 else claims town gun then wheme is confirmed as the only town gun and the 3 mafia all picked gun?Wizard-Mercenary
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Yes, you can stop flexing by fact you read mod posts.Wizard-Mercenary
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Why i should't assume as town early game?In post 142, Dunnstral wrote:
It seems you started this conversation assuming that Titus is town by saying you believe they are a rose. I think this is potentially weird, you have a strange perspective here.In post 96, Enchant wrote:
Because i have nothing to do.In post 95, Titus wrote:
I might. I might not. Why are you speculating?In post 92, Enchant wrote:
I smell you don't have it.In post 89, Titus wrote:
I never would go for that if I have a gun. I would shoot my reads period.In post 87, Enchant wrote: I think massclaim is good, so we force everyone who claimed gun to shot each other, because i don't believe Mafia didnt Went full 3 gun fun.
Wheme is conftown, unless atleast one gun claims.
Likelyhood you picked rose as town are 90%.
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I think anime avatars conspire to vote me out from game.Wizard-Mercenary
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wtf apologiseIn post 159, WhemeStar wrote: If we were voting based by avatar I will vote you too enchantWizard-Mercenary
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Ok you got me i did in fact pick gun.
I pretended i townread wheme, so i can shot wheme in the face without being shot back but i guess it's blatant i always pick gun.
Bruh game.
So yeah. Crosskill?Wizard-Mercenary
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I tried to force massclaim though.Wizard-Mercenary
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Perhaps.
But you see, i already suggested that guns should claim to crossshot, so mafia naturally avoids claiming guns. Then after massclaim i would judge more fairly if mafia claimed gun or not.Wizard-Mercenary
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But you all assume that i always pick gun, it's not even funny.
You think i am troll or what?Wizard-Mercenary
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If i cced immediately, you would vote wheme or you would "ah well ok mafia could pick rose i think!??!!"Wizard-Mercenary
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Why i should out D1?In post 180, Aristeia wrote: i would not want to vote you out if you were honest about picking gun right away. What you do with your bullet is up to you. I certainly wouldnt make you shoot WhemeWizard-Mercenary
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Of course you can't let me shot wheme, until she wastes gun on some random townie, uhum.
I see this as attempt to powerlim me so Wheme can say "oh i joked i am in fact rose" on D2.Wizard-Mercenary
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BeCaUsE EnChAnT NeVeR pIcK rOsE aS tOwN.In post 187, Dunnstral wrote: Actually... if you are a town gun, why are you claiming instead of just shooting at night?
I TRIED to hide until i get my shot, i just realised that if i get wagoned to E-1, people just disbelieve me and it's blatant i am lying anyway.
So if pick rose, everyone push me for picking rose and when i do pick gun, everyone still push me, because they can't bear mind that i do have gun.
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Cuz i am only town gun.In post 186, Dunnstral wrote: Why would you shoot Wheme?
I don't believe one scum picked rose.Wizard-Mercenary
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Makes as much sense as claiming cop in newbie setup as VT, getting CC and get both killed, indeed.In post 195, Dunnstral wrote:
Wheme could be a n1 rose baiting the mafia kill. They claimed right after someone said a gun claim would be a defenseless confirmed town, if I remember correctly. I don't think mafia would claim to be a gun right away because then they can be shot by the town guns if they don't believe them.In post 190, Enchant wrote:
Cuz i am only town gun.In post 186, Dunnstral wrote: Why would you shoot Wheme?
I don't believe one scum picked rose.
I don't like to have to spell that out but if you are the only town gun you getting wagoned is bad and you shooting at wheme is bad.Wizard-Mercenary
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I supposed to sleep 3 hours ago.
Fuck mafia.Wizard-Mercenary
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Why you picked Night 2?Wizard-Mercenary
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"hey everyone, guns shouldn't claim, because it makes them target!"
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"ENCHANT PRETENDS ROSE! IT'S LITERALLY SUS! WHY ENCHANT EVER DOES THAT?"
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No. Point that i pick gun is valid. But it's so annoying i can't.In post 267, Alisae wrote:
here is something to think aboutIn post 266, Enchant wrote: "hey everyone, guns shouldn't claim, because it makes them target!"
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"ENCHANT PRETENDS ROSE! IT'S LITERALLY SUS! WHY ENCHANT EVER DOES THAT?"
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I am not gonna hide. I can shot N1.
So if Wheme can shot N2 i always win.Wizard-Mercenary
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If you eliminate Wheme, who i will shot?!
Just let crosskill happen, fools.Wizard-Mercenary
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Idk, Titus maybe.Wizard-Mercenary
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I assume mafia would want me alive for D1, but hope i will miss.
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I am adding Aris to "Don't bother talk until ELO" list.Wizard-Mercenary
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Wake up.In post 384, Aristeia wrote: if its a 3 scum gun vs 10 town rose setup there is essentially no information from a mass claim that would help scum.
when i say massclaim i mean claim gun or rose not which night you are.
There's 14 players.Wizard-Mercenary
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I got gun to punish people who also picked gun.
It's my LIFEGOAL.Wizard-Mercenary
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I don't care about reading Wheme. I just don't believe mafia picked rose.
Because if it happens as like you propose (like with 1 town gun 3 mafia gun) mafia will learn who that town wielding gun and just... shot them. Yeah they are now conftown and maybe get shot off. And then they just die.In post 425, Alisae wrote: I don’t quite get why bulge thinks massclaim is bad for village and good for wolves.
Afterwards only knowledge you have is that everyone else are rose or gun wielding scum. And that's it.
I only insisted on massclaim because i am gun, overall idea is stupid.Wizard-Mercenary
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Basically you goated me in revealing i am gun, and even if i shot scum, you just lost your conftown.
What i can say. GG?Wizard-Mercenary
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Well yeah.
Why not massclaim anyway?Wizard-Mercenary
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My final proposal is atleast one of wheme/alicae are scum. I still probably kill both though if i had choice.
I don't believe both are town. Never.
For anyone who consider me "bad" for claiming rose.
Issue is i didn't claim rose, i just pretended i am one. Like any PR pretends they are VT D1.
If i was asked question "hello are you cop" in normal D1, even if i was cop, my answer will be "No, i am VT". And probably yours will be too.
If you needed to answer every fishing question truthfully to have any credibility afterwards, you wouldn't last long.
And as worldwide, vig has right to not CC all vigilante claims. They have gun for it.
Anyone demanding stupid 1vs1 is foolish at best and scum at worst. Even if i win 1vs1 against Wheme, i still end up being shot for my troubles. And wheme hypothetically could be town, which leave me with tomato in the face.
If you wonder why i am mad. I am forced to pick gun, because i knew my rose pick most likely will be disbelieved, because i am Enchant and presumably, my goal is to grief everyone in every game. Even then, rose only justified if i am sure i live longer than D2.
So i picked gun and decided to get one shot off and that's it, but you can't even let it happen.
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Here we have another show off of Taly.Wizard-Mercenary
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Anyone who try to convince me that something i see happening is not happening and in fact i imagining it are my enemy of this game regardless of alignment, and will be treated as such. Given:
1. I pose as rose because it's most senseble thing i can do as gun in game where i can be conftown as solo town gun picker and i see someone claiming gun, maybe to bait me, maybe it's legit town i don't care. Yes, i am very interested in counterclaiming D1 and then being shot. (It's sarcasm). I can't just shitpush wheme directly as it's as same thing as just plainly revealing a gun so pretending i buy claim is most direct and winnable way for me because i just live until N1 and shot them. THEN i can claim shot.
2. You pressure me into claiming because obviously i would't get rose as town (which is in fact INCORRECT).
3. You then say how "it's bad" and vote me.
Any post containing "No it's not like that it's your guilt Enchant" can be printed on paper and burnt and i don't care to talk about it then.
Naturally i am punished for not lurking in this game and being Enchant. And it's fucking clear.
Anyway, my idea:
I shot Wheme
Alisae shots me
You vote out alisae D2 regardless of what Wheme flip.
At minimum nails 1 scum always. And no you don't let Alicae live by being somehow convinced that mafia picked two roses if wheme flips town (SOMEHOW). I know you will throw game anyway but i will be dead so it's not my concern anymore.
MAYBE you can consider Alisae town if Wheme flips scum. Maybe. I still try to kill both.Wizard-Mercenary
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Why even do that?
Well if you vote me this day, then Alisae shots Wheme (or does not), Wheme flips and you need to vote Alisae as well.
Ergo if you don't bother any guns, situation will be resolved in shorter time than if you voted out me first.Wizard-Mercenary
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We have clear different opinions on what to do, but my goal was to not be shot.In post 521, Gamma Emerald wrote: If you are actually town gun, you never call wheme conftown.Wizard-Mercenary
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I guess i feared wrong faction lolWizard-Mercenary
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Of course that was our plan. It's not like i am more belivable to claim gun at first place and it's not like there's other town gun which can claim and ruin/shot/etc.In post 526, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think he was aiming to pass off Wheme as cleared to give him extra mileage in the game, but wasn’t planning on getting his bluff called for not being a rose
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You are either clueless or scum, or maybe both, and all your theories are on level of "HM WHAT I CAN MAKE UP TO PAIR BOTH ENCHANT WITH WHEME EVEN IF THEY WANT TO SHOT EACH OTHER HMMM" it's like you actively refuse to listen to your logic and instead try to pull logic on that organ which you use to generate reads. Or you are scum.
Actually can you just go?
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Your previous you promised 100 posts on Day 1.In post 552, pisskop wrote: So I rolled town
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