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Post #1744 (isolation #0) » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:20 pm
Postby Eiralox »
Haven't read all.
Day cop suggestions:
Not_Mafia:
On absolve, confirmed vannilla town and possible wise voter. On condemn, just funny.
Eira:
Absolve a vannilla town.
Itenerants:
I feel good about absolving or condemning here.
I'm operating on Not_Mafia trueclaim from the little I've read. Confirming either me or Not_Mafia means that killers have to kill a powerless role eventually instead of us confirming a strong role and damning them.
I'm also operating on the basis that pisskop has the check, that's obvious I guess.
Nothing else for now. Have fun... unless fun isn't your thing.
On absolve, confirmed vannilla town and possible wise voter. On condemn, just funny.
Eira:
Absolve a vannilla town.
Itenerants:
I feel good about absolving or condemning here.
I'm operating on Not_Mafia trueclaim from the little I've read. Confirming either me or Not_Mafia means that killers have to kill a powerless role eventually instead of us confirming a strong role and damning them.
I'm also operating on the basis that pisskop has the check, that's obvious I guess.
Nothing else for now. Have fun... unless fun isn't your thing.
This logic is less valid in a bastard multiball game, for two reasons. Oops all inno doesn’t work in the presence of a cult, or any godfather like ability, which are both possible.
Multiple kills per night reduces the impact of innocents over all.
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Post #1802 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:54 am
Postby Eiralox »
Might consider not voting zzzx, yimmy, cook based on day one vibes. Might do a full catch up later. Almost sheeped Bingle to get some steam somewhere but that cook iso was okay at least. So. Looking to sheep anyone at this point if they seem confident and town. Because too lazy to change stuff so far.
In post 1802, Eiralox wrote:
Might consider not voting zzzx, yimmy, cook based on day one vibes. Might do a full catch up later. Almost sheeped Bingle to get some steam somewhere but that cook iso was okay at least. So. Looking to sheep anyone at this point if they seem confident and town. Because too lazy to change stuff so far.
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Post #1812 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:03 pm
Postby Eiralox »
Not impressed by either Bingle or Dkkoba thus far. I'll give it a day maybe to hear if pisskop actually has anything to say on MegAzumaril before I do what I have to do. By the way if I figured I'll make myself available for elimination, make that easy, claiming vanilla would not be my move. Claiming something ridiculous and being as irritating as all hell would. Or not claim at all and just shut up on the inverse,where my survival is really all that valued. Claiming vanilla means I'm ready to be on the war path but have multiple contingencies for danger, that is to say, I'm here to fight it out and have been from the start. For day two at least.
VOTE: Bingle
Just for feeling icky. Might change once I, you know, have some actual reasoning for my actions. Giving koba a pass because just quoting a post and throwing down that vote is a suave look, a powermove and for now respected as a catalyst at least. Bingle, sure Bingle hasn't read, but it's the kind of vote I feel like retaliating against ya'know. with vapid statements like these which i addend after the fact. to flesh this post out. gods i'm bored. anyway.
Highly doubt psyche and Dkkoba are in a pt together, using moonlogic.
So far my read on basically every slot is: Fuck if I know. Pisskop cop methinks, or something. That's as far as I feel I'm efforting this for now.
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Post #1835 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:18 pm
Postby Eiralox »
In post 1831, Bingle wrote:
I’m wagoning eiralox for the scummy ass posting on the last four pages. Why are you wagoning eiralox?
Hmmmmm one possible interpretation I reached is that you got cold feet upon realizing a cook elim is improbable, and chose a target you felt might have a chance. If koba is town maybe they even trapped you, but perhaps I am ascribing more complex motivations to their vote than meets the eyes.
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Post #1836 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:21 pm
Postby Eiralox »
In post 1829, Psyche wrote:
actually im going to try to get through this thread tonight
ill find motivation in the idea that yall need me
I already have ideas on how to proceed, there are votes I want to analyze on day one. But yes, you are needed. (Couldn't find a picture of cheerleading chimpanzees last night but imagine that picture is included with this missive for your motivation)
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Post #1837 (isolation #12) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:39 am
Postby Eiralox »
Than again, if I perceive Bingle's Cook vote as casual, informal, RVS as claimed, the question becomes what makes my posts scummy. Humoring a world where Bingle is town one can suppose they and koba latched onto tone or such, this I usually expect as an outflow of my style.
But here is the crux, despite less words I might feel that koba indeed follows this reasoning. Little data for me to be sure.
Bingle however. Hmmm. The lack of analysis might be telling. Psyche has even less input but judging purely by intent, in Bingle I sense hesitancy, caution, whereas psyche might merely be catching up as time allows.
I am curious about a few things so far but for now silence is golden.
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Post #1843 (isolation #13) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:54 am
Postby Eiralox »
Bingle how can anyone take your push on me seriously at this point if you don't even know about the inner sanctum keepers. Or perhaps act that way. On one side though things like these make me wonder if I can still consider you as part of a pt, as I have suspected. Because if this ignorance is sincere then I have to re-examine that possibility. For now it's still in my table though.
i voted u bc ur reads were completely misaligned to mine and the pisskop thing felt like a TMIy afterthought after listing partners as townreads
To be honest I have 0 reads thus far excluding the two clears, cook yimmy zzzx (edit: oh also n_m) were town feels I shared and since then decided i'm still uncertain enough to not yet commit. Thanks for sharing i guess, at least it isn't just 'eira's posting scummy' with no deeper explanation.
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Post #1857 (isolation #18) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:30 am
Postby Eiralox »
In post 1854, Cook wrote:
VCA with provisional clears tells me itinerants and koba are suspect
In post 1855, Cook wrote:
i find it highly unlikely that nono's wagon was pure or even <2 scum, which also puts enchant on the radar
and patchwork's wagon at EoD has a lot going on with it
Hmmm some of what you say has been brewing in my mind, but knowing myself I should guard against paranoia and strong beliefs. I think, disregarding Bingle for a while, Save the Dragons, Yimmy and ZZZX are interesting studies as well. But overall I'll like your above posts because it's sort of a mindmeld, though on the whole I haven't read much at all so far and in terms of Koba at least I haven't been so sure.
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Post #1867 (isolation #19) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:04 pm
Postby Eiralox »
In post 1864, Bingle wrote:
NM, Eiralox: what roles did you submit that got vetoed?
Does it matter? Overall I have little reason to interact with you beyond what I've already said. I haven't felt you approach my slot in good faith or with any depth, you've basically done nothing today, blah blah blah i'm sort of tired so if don't end it here i'll rant on and on. And N_M already shared all his picks.
In post 1843, Eiralox wrote:
Bingle how can anyone take your push on me seriously at this point if you don't even know about the inner sanctum keepers. Or perhaps act that way. On one side though things like these make me wonder if I can still consider you as part of a pt, as I have suspected. Because if this ignorance is sincere then I have to re-examine that possibility. For now it's still in my table though.
I mean… how can anyone not be voting you after you are this obvscum from only the last 6 pages? I don’t need to read the rest of the game to smell the shit you’re trying to pass off as potpourri.
Yeah good so I'm ignoring you for the rest of the game then. Have fun.
In post 8, DkKoba wrote:
i would like to propose we all share the picks we did not get, I got my town pick, here are my picks:
Mafia: Goon(of an arbitrary faction) post 2180
Free: 10,000, post 10000
Mod Discretion: Alien Vote Donator, post 2367
I used a randomizer to choose roles so my town role may or may not be garbage too
Seems like a good idea.
Our picks were:
Town - Conditionally Deathproof Innocent Doctor
Groupscum - Anomalous Collector
Free Space - Zombie
Mod Discretion - VIP
~RH
In post 1933, ZZZX wrote:
Also, can someone sell me on either cook or Eiralox? I don't have a hard read on either, and I do not see it yet.
But we have a deadline in two days and we really need to get moving i suppose.
Any reason you're not talking about Itinerants?
Mostly because more people had the willingness to vote for you and cook, so its more likely we can get an elim before the day ends. I havent been interacting much with the game sinc enothong is happening. And honestly i forgot most of my reads so I probably have to go back and re read
Can't say your viewpoint encourages me. Bingle has no solid reasoning. Not_Mafia is Not_Mafia, radiant and pure. Itenerants has been on every wagon basically day one and simply doesn't act town from what I've felt.
The correct play is voting in Bingle, Enchant, Itenerants. My plan at least.
Makes me a bit sad that your take is 'maybe just go for cook or eira, there's people voting there.'
NM is indeed NM, so I get that. And honestly? I am.not happy about it either. But reality is that half the playerlist is absolutely null, we are running out of time, and a no-elim at this point is VERY bad. And i have low confidence in rereading, making a new case and getting someone else elimd in this time frame we have left. So its mostly a case of lesser evils.
That's fine. I'm quite sure Cook and I make it through today anyway so vote as you wish then.
In post 1929, Bingle wrote:
dk, why are you unconcerned with eir explicitly hiding information that there is no town motivation to hide?
what information + eira strikes me as the type to not share stuff willingly like that so its not really a good reason to scumread them over their dayplay
The actual submission that turned into a vt. It literally can’t hurt to share a submission that was vetoed, as explained earlier. It is also an easy lie to make. I don’t think eiralox has an answer to the question, which means…
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Post #1952 (isolation #29) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:35 am
Postby Eiralox »
Not gonna happen. Enchant and Itenerants lurking it all day and bingle just funny. Get zzzx to vote me then. And even then town admitting that they just can't see scum. It would be rather funny were I to die. But it's not gonna happen. wise up and read the game. enchant/bluesnek/itenerants day one. basic stuff.
don't really care to analyze gamma and koba votes further than this. better slots to solve today than them.
Hard way to what? Appeasing Bingle? Sure. Name me truly original takes either Binlge or Itenerants have had the entire game. If you and zzzx are town you should take a deep hard look because Itenerants has been openwolfing from very early on. Guillotina saw thru it. Iamveryhappy saw trhu it. And you think your vote means something because Bingle spams me about a role that doesn't matter? And I'm not approaching the rest of Bingle's points because they're lazy. If people like sheeping lazy points without being able to judge and feel intent then I feel less like trying and more like leaving town to the wolves. Easier that way.
Jumping from Cook to me,whatever. As I said earlier, ignoring any hard conclusions on you for now.
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Post #1958 (isolation #31) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:01 am
Postby Eiralox »
In post 1954, DkKoba wrote:
You refuse to claim information that doesn't actually affect your claim and is of no consequence to claim. You're fucking around and this is the find out part.
I claimed my roles I didn't get nearly immediately. It's not hard.
"I got my mod discretion and here is my town maf and wild card picks" or if you are claiming you got vt'd you can easily claim all of them.
whatever. get enchant to put me at e-1 then and get zzzx to hammer if this is the depth of your town game, how you choose to approach my slot. and if you're not town, this bores me.
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Post #1962 (isolation #33) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:05 am
Postby Eiralox »
In post 1957, DkKoba wrote:
fwiw it's like more likely if eira not town here that they're a 3p bc surely their scum team would have said something
Ofc I think nono is groupscum so maybe not kek
Enchant, Itenerants, Bingle. Preference on Itenerants. I have little else to say. Cook becoming obvious town. Psyche and KatyKim I don'tfrankly care about for now. Gamme has felt town,Yimmy has felt town. Little interest in worrying about Koba.
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Post #1963 (isolation #34) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:07 am
Postby Eiralox »
In post 1961, DkKoba wrote:
Tell us why it's absurd to claim picks that you did not receive
Because it's like looking at people trying to catch a bird by putting a net in a cage and asking it why the sky's blue. And I honestly I just find it funny.
In post 1961, DkKoba wrote:
Tell us why it's absurd to claim picks that you did not receive
Because it's like looking at people trying to catch a bird by putting a net in a cage and asking it why the sky's blue. And I honestly I just find it funny.
I actually explained why it's useful to know at some point iirc and refusing to claim was precisely why i initiated the game with it bc it implies something about one of the picks
Koba I'm here to vote scum. There's two days left. To me these things are a timewaste. Itenerants likely in a scum PT. Enchant so silent today that them being town is a hard sell.Bingle I'm not even going to start talking about. If you want to be like Bingle and only focus on me go ahead. If it really matters so much I'll even claim it, when there's a massclaim. but you can lim me before i decide to waste any more time on something i've never attached even an iota of value toin terms advancing the game.
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Post #1968 (isolation #36) » Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:28 am
Postby Eiralox »
In post 1966, DkKoba wrote:
I'm literally 1 claim away from switching off... refusing to claim info that is easy and free to claim for town and risky for mafia you have to realize does not look good for u
You don't have to claim the pick that got VT'd I already see a scenario for you as town where you wouldn't.
Just claim the other 3
My f dude did Bingle infect you iamveryhappy claimed long ago. don't you think there might be a reason bingle is pushing this when i'm pushing itenerants?
i already said this is a vaste of my time whether i claim it or not so for now i choose not to. not saying never will.
all i want is u and gamma to unvote me lol so i can go to sleep but whatever.
In post 1961, DkKoba wrote:
Tell us why it's absurd to claim picks that you did not receive
Because it's like looking at people trying to catch a bird by putting a net in a cage and asking it why the sky's blue. And I honestly I just find it funny.
I actually explained why it's useful to know at some point iirc and refusing to claim was precisely why i initiated the game with it bc it implies something about one of the picks
Koba I'm here to vote scum. There's two days left. To me these things are a timewaste. Itenerants likely in a scum PT. Enchant so silent today that them being town is a hard sell.Bingle I'm not even going to start talking about. If you want to be like Bingle and only focus on me go ahead. If it really matters so much I'll even claim it, when there's a massclaim. but you can lim me before i decide to waste any more time on something i've never attached even an iota of value toin terms advancing the game.
You know claiming it would have saved a signifigant amount of time and energy related to this conversation.
You are wasting time currently from withholding information, seemingly out of spite of Bingle?
Nah I'm just amused out of all the scummy behavior people could have noticed today they decide this matters. And I'm very sure I have an idea what Bingle'sidea with this was from the start so this is all just run of the mill tbh. Happy's townpick has nothing to do with pumpkins that's all imma say now.
On absolve, confirmed vannilla town and possible wise voter. On condemn, just funny.
Eira:
Absolve a vannilla town.
Itenerants:
I feel good about absolving or condemning here.
I'm operating on Not_Mafia trueclaim from the little I've read. Confirming either me or Not_Mafia means that killers have to kill a powerless role eventually instead of us confirming a strong role and damning them.
I'm also operating on the basis that pisskop has the check, that's obvious I guess.
Nothing else for now. Have fun... unless fun isn't your thing.
This logic is less valid in a bastard multiball game, for two reasons. Oops all inno doesn’t work in the presence of a cult, or any godfather like ability, which are both possible.
Multiple kills per night reduces the impact of innocents over all.
Cops should definitely be hunting for guilties.
Eiralox interaction. Mentions vannilla shouldn't be checked but give no input whether Itenerants is a good target.
In post 1746, Eiralox wrote:
This doesn't say much. Yay or nay on Itinerants?
You vastly overestimate my "knowing who the fuck that is" stat. It was my dumpstat. I put everything into "Spite".
Dodges. Bingle continues this pattern of not having read or making it appear so. mistakes like not knowing about n_ms and veryhappys prior claims,oracting like it to achieve a predistened goalbasedupon eira'sinitial fos of itenerants.
In post 1790, Enchant wrote:
Amway really suck i am surprised people ever accepted knowing they will lose all powers.
There were a lot of shitty roles and there were actually a few ways to make it breaking, but yeah… a lot of d1 was me winding aureal up about it to make noise.
Can someone clue me in on what the pisskop situation is? It kinda sounds to me like pisskop is talking out his ass and I’d like to clarify that a bit.
Nothing to say here. Maybe doesnt want pisskop to beconfirmed at this point.
Pisskop accused cook of stealing a snackrifice and then was told that didn’t make any sense and the mod confirmed you’re a serial killer.
Nothing to say here.
In post 1810, Bingle wrote:
I replaced in overnight and am unrepentantly not putting effort into reading what’s already happened.
Which kinda makes eir wanting to sheep a page 70 rvs vote even more scummy.
VOTE: eiralox
Eira says doesn't want to vote cook with bingle because cook iso looks good. bingle decideds eira almost voting cook means something.instinct i had is itenerants needs to be protected and bingle is the expendable runner.
In post 1831, Bingle wrote:
I’m wagoning eiralox for the scummy ass posting on the last four pages. Why are you wagoning eiralox?
No true input.I have discussed many slots at this point, bingledoesnt want to approach that content at this time cos afraid he'll clear town by spew
That doesn’t answer my question, it merely dodges it. You see, the correct thing to do here is to vote eiralox and then give a reason for doing so. I’ll let you try again.
Nothing post. beligerence as seen with recent pushes.
One shot Dayvig as a role doesn't exist according to 3p.
Pisskop is a day alignment cop we can sacrifice ourselves at night to give more checks to. Currently has 1 check.
Cook had the power to dayvig day 1, doing so when their wagon picked up momentum, otherwise unknown for role.
Pisskop is an ISK according to patchwork, and therefore is mech!town if we trust patchwork's flip.
Other deaths have been to a day 1 dayvig/selfkill courtesy of flavor leaf.
NM and Eira are VT claims.
Some people but not all have claimed between mod discretion and town.
I think that's about it?
The role One Shot Dayvig specifically, or any role that can dayvig exactly one time?
Can pisskop daycop multiple times per day?
Cook was wagoner d1 and saved by a dayvig, why? What about the dayvig made her town?
What the fuck is an ISK?
Mechanically, how were roles decided this game. I thought it was supposed to be a upick?
Nothing to say here.either unaware of the patchwork flip or acts that way.
In post 1843, Eiralox wrote:
Bingle how can anyone take your push on me seriously at this point if you don't even know about the inner sanctum keepers. Or perhaps act that way. On one side though things like these make me wonder if I can still consider you as part of a pt, as I have suspected. Because if this ignorance is sincere then I have to re-examine that possibility. For now it's still in my table though.
I mean… how can anyone not be voting you after you are this obvscum from only the last 6 pages? I don’t need to read the rest of the game to smell the shit you’re trying to pass off as potpourri.
still nothing. compares my input to excrement
In post 1864, Bingle wrote:
NM, Eiralox: what roles did you submit that got vetoed?
asks infoalready provided excpept for one role: iamveryhappy'stown pick.means bingle probably suspects i might be an investigative with a possible guilty.
In post 1864, Bingle wrote:
NM, Eiralox: what roles did you submit that got vetoed?
Does it matter? Overall I have little reason to interact with you beyond what I've already said. I haven't felt you approach my slot in good faith or with any depth, you've basically done nothing today, blah blah blah i'm sort of tired so if don't end it here i'll rant on and on. And N_M already shared all his picks.
Yeah, so… really easy to claim a role you don’t actually have, and no associated risk. Really hard to claim a role that is believably gamebreaking but not gamebreaking enough that you wouldn’t send it in the first place, especially when someone else might actually HAVE that role.
This is what made me think koba is town and bingle needs them on his side. wangts me and cook to be superobv scum buddies in koba and others' minds.
In post 1907, Bingle wrote:
Dk, do you think any of eirs treatment of me is good faith? Because the discrediting of my reads based on my not reading prior to my replacement seems like pretty much the opposite of that, and I want whatever you’re smoking to reach that conclusion.
if someone with a limited graspor a seemingly limited graspof the game pushes me without explanation this is a probable response from me.
In post 1907, Bingle wrote:
Dk, do you think any of eirs treatment of me is good faith? Because the discrediting of my reads based on my not reading prior to my replacement seems like pretty much the opposite of that, and I want whatever you’re smoking to reach that conclusion.
i think eira is approaching the game in good faith in their own POV overall yes.
:/
Did you roll scum? Sad days, dk, sad days.
I think i'll try not to see the world where koba and bingleare together.i mean i'm giving koba the benefit of the doubt today.
In post 1918, Bingle wrote:
I disagree that there’s nuance. Performance, but not nuance.
Again nothing much ofnote.at this point i was in the know that binglewas gonna try and gun for the one opening he had,that is, the one thing veryhappy didnt claim.
In post 1928, Bingle wrote:
I swear I meant to do things tonight, but a 10 hour shift turned into a 13 hour shift unexpectedly because no one told me we had contractors on site tonight.
Instead I’ll just ask dk why they’re unconcerned with eir explicitly hiding information that there is no town motivation to hide.
Again nohting much.Redux so far: 'Eira Bad'
In post 1929, Bingle wrote:
dk, why are you unconcerned with eir explicitly hiding information that there is no town motivation to hide?
Nothing much. nomassclaim yet so doesn't really really matter does it,unlessi made yall afraid i got that guilty
In post 1929, Bingle wrote:
dk, why are you unconcerned with eir explicitly hiding information that there is no town motivation to hide?
what information + eira strikes me as the type to not share stuff willingly like that so its not really a good reason to scumread them over their dayplay
The actual submission that turned into a vt. It literally can’t hurt to share a submission that was vetoed, as explained earlier. It is also an easy lie to make. I don’t think eiralox has an answer to the question, which means…
In post 1936, Eiralox wrote:
Can't say your viewpoint encourages me. Bingle has no solid reasoning. Not_Mafia is Not_Mafia, radiant and pure. Itenerants has been on every wagon basically day one and simply doesn't act town from what I've felt.
The correct play is voting in Bingle, Enchant, Itenerants. My plan at least.
Makes me a bit sad that your take is 'maybe just go for cook or eira, there's people voting there.'
But I'm not pushing you today so you do you.
This is pretty much a perfect example of what eir is doing that’s sketch as fuck, in case anyone is genuinely confused.
This is ATE “it makes me sad that you’re willing to vote me” while simultaneously discrediting his wagon. they offer enchant up for an alternative despite having had even less evidence to share about enchant than I have about them. The pushes are shallow AF (Bingle isn’t reading!).
Everything about eirs play is “Please don’t lim me.”
And for the record, my initial reason for voting them was the attempt to target the day op rather poorly. Similarly to how I spent a lot of resources in veiled committee trying to target the various investigations.
Redux: *Eira scummy for FOSING itenerants and enchant
*Eira scummy for wanting to stay alive
*eiras scummy for disrecditing the wagin in them
In post 1939, KatyKimFanClub wrote:
Hello, can someone explain uPick to me? I replaced in but in retrospect maybe I should have figured out the theme and stuff beforehand.
People picked roles. They got one of those roles, unless they sucked so hard at picking that TL said fuck off. Eiralox claims to have sucked at picking and also won’t share the role they didn’t get, presumably because they are ignoring all of my posts.
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Post #2002 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:34 am
Postby Eiralox »
Current Readslist
Basically Cleared:
Pisskop
: GDOC. No need to contend.
MegAzumarill
: Going on pisskop's word, felt town to me
Most probably town:
Gamma Emerald:
Yimmy felt sort of lost but benevolent, Gamma feels like they have town mentality by judging their actions.
Cook:
Feels town, benevolent intent. idk for me the snivy dayvig might be town indic as well, scum or third party might want to save that shot and not waste it early on a probable non-killing third party. hope u feel better.
DkKoba:
Investigative, driver, day one input paints as town as fuck imo. Missed koba's post last night but yeah I knew we've played together before and I just sense the depth and care I want to find in town here. also not proud of how i acted in that game to koba but this time it feels as if we're on the same side and working towards the same goal. koba's interactions with bingle and iterants really enforced this to me because it's been solid analysis and the sort of things town want to know. asking iten who's scum for instance, which itens never answered, itens' done no scum hunting today. hope ur healthy.
?:
Not_Mafia:
Mystery but I can ignore for now and place as vt
whemestar:
idk despite lack of input psyche finda felt town, not enough grasp to have on nono, so far a null I guess
KatyKimFanClub:
idk save the dragons gave me weird lurky vibes but also felt town a bit. Null I guess, same with wheme just havent done much so far. i can compromise on wheme and katykim but not ideal wagons for me per se
???:
Enchant:
Ok my feel day one was just popping in to be there.day two, has done nothing, struggle to see town here.
Bingle:
Almost every post and action focused on eira. doesnt seem interested in solving the game somuch as getting a spesific elim.don'tsee their actions and arguments coming from a town mentality at all but rather either as an informed driver for a minority faction or more edgewise in my mind a lone third party. probably in a pt for now due to how i've felt they react to my mentions of enchant and bingle. bluesnakelet just sscreams not town to me over all.
Itenerants:
I believe they're strong players so I'm a bit surprised by their game ngl. because scum really don't want to be obvious and to me they sort of are. popping in and now and again, day two done basically nothing, day one heavily incriminated by how and where they voted. my guess is they didn't expect to be caught maybe and know that starting to talk now might destroy any chance their team has left. idk thought maybe a zombie after all but with bingle stuff i'm pretty chill putting them as scum. maybe wouldn't have included zombie in claims if they got that idk.
Boop:
ZZZX:
forgot all about this slot so adding at end. felt town, probably place them above n_m , katykim and wheme in order, but can also see them as scum popping in now and again. town vibes so far but eh definitely not as strong a feel as on cook, gamma,koba
On absolve, confirmed vannilla town and possible wise voter. On condemn, just funny.
Eira:
Absolve a vannilla town.
Itenerants:
I feel good about absolving or condemning here.
I'm operating on Not_Mafia trueclaim from the little I've read. Confirming either me or Not_Mafia means that killers have to kill a powerless role eventually instead of us confirming a strong role and damning them.
I'm also operating on the basis that pisskop has the check, that's obvious I guess.
Nothing else for now. Have fun... unless fun isn't your thing.
This logic is less valid in a bastard multiball game, for two reasons. Oops all inno doesn’t work in the presence of a cult, or any godfather like ability, which are both possible.
Multiple kills per night reduces the impact of innocents over all.
Cops should definitely be hunting for guilties.
Eiralox interaction. Mentions vannilla shouldn't be checked but give no input whether Itenerants is a good target.
In post 1746, Eiralox wrote:
This doesn't say much. Yay or nay on Itinerants?
You vastly overestimate my "knowing who the fuck that is" stat. It was my dumpstat. I put everything into "Spite".
Dodges. Bingle continues this pattern of not having read or making it appear so. mistakes like not knowing about n_ms and veryhappys prior claims,oracting like it to achieve a predistened goalbasedupon eira'sinitial fos of itenerants.
In post 1790, Enchant wrote:
Amway really suck i am surprised people ever accepted knowing they will lose all powers.
There were a lot of shitty roles and there were actually a few ways to make it breaking, but yeah… a lot of d1 was me winding aureal up about it to make noise.
Can someone clue me in on what the pisskop situation is? It kinda sounds to me like pisskop is talking out his ass and I’d like to clarify that a bit.
Nothing to say here. Maybe doesnt want pisskop to beconfirmed at this point.
Pisskop accused cook of stealing a snackrifice and then was told that didn’t make any sense and the mod confirmed you’re a serial killer.
Nothing to say here.
In post 1810, Bingle wrote:
I replaced in overnight and am unrepentantly not putting effort into reading what’s already happened.
Which kinda makes eir wanting to sheep a page 70 rvs vote even more scummy.
VOTE: eiralox
Eira says doesn't want to vote cook with bingle because cook iso looks good. bingle decideds eira almost voting cook means something.instinct i had is itenerants needs to be protected and bingle is the expendable runner.
In post 1831, Bingle wrote:
I’m wagoning eiralox for the scummy ass posting on the last four pages. Why are you wagoning eiralox?
No true input.I have discussed many slots at this point, bingledoesnt want to approach that content at this time cos afraid he'll clear town by spew
That doesn’t answer my question, it merely dodges it. You see, the correct thing to do here is to vote eiralox and then give a reason for doing so. I’ll let you try again.
Nothing post. beligerence as seen with recent pushes.
One shot Dayvig as a role doesn't exist according to 3p.
Pisskop is a day alignment cop we can sacrifice ourselves at night to give more checks to. Currently has 1 check.
Cook had the power to dayvig day 1, doing so when their wagon picked up momentum, otherwise unknown for role.
Pisskop is an ISK according to patchwork, and therefore is mech!town if we trust patchwork's flip.
Other deaths have been to a day 1 dayvig/selfkill courtesy of flavor leaf.
NM and Eira are VT claims.
Some people but not all have claimed between mod discretion and town.
I think that's about it?
The role One Shot Dayvig specifically, or any role that can dayvig exactly one time?
Can pisskop daycop multiple times per day?
Cook was wagoner d1 and saved by a dayvig, why? What about the dayvig made her town?
What the fuck is an ISK?
Mechanically, how were roles decided this game. I thought it was supposed to be a upick?
Nothing to say here.either unaware of the patchwork flip or acts that way.
In post 1843, Eiralox wrote:
Bingle how can anyone take your push on me seriously at this point if you don't even know about the inner sanctum keepers. Or perhaps act that way. On one side though things like these make me wonder if I can still consider you as part of a pt, as I have suspected. Because if this ignorance is sincere then I have to re-examine that possibility. For now it's still in my table though.
I mean… how can anyone not be voting you after you are this obvscum from only the last 6 pages? I don’t need to read the rest of the game to smell the shit you’re trying to pass off as potpourri.
still nothing. compares my input to excrement
In post 1864, Bingle wrote:
NM, Eiralox: what roles did you submit that got vetoed?
asks infoalready provided excpept for one role: iamveryhappy'stown pick.means bingle probably suspects i might be an investigative with a possible guilty.
In post 1864, Bingle wrote:
NM, Eiralox: what roles did you submit that got vetoed?
Does it matter? Overall I have little reason to interact with you beyond what I've already said. I haven't felt you approach my slot in good faith or with any depth, you've basically done nothing today, blah blah blah i'm sort of tired so if don't end it here i'll rant on and on. And N_M already shared all his picks.
Yeah, so… really easy to claim a role you don’t actually have, and no associated risk. Really hard to claim a role that is believably gamebreaking but not gamebreaking enough that you wouldn’t send it in the first place, especially when someone else might actually HAVE that role.
This is what made me think koba is town and bingle needs them on his side. wangts me and cook to be superobv scum buddies in koba and others' minds.
In post 1907, Bingle wrote:
Dk, do you think any of eirs treatment of me is good faith? Because the discrediting of my reads based on my not reading prior to my replacement seems like pretty much the opposite of that, and I want whatever you’re smoking to reach that conclusion.
if someone with a limited graspor a seemingly limited graspof the game pushes me without explanation this is a probable response from me.
In post 1907, Bingle wrote:
Dk, do you think any of eirs treatment of me is good faith? Because the discrediting of my reads based on my not reading prior to my replacement seems like pretty much the opposite of that, and I want whatever you’re smoking to reach that conclusion.
i think eira is approaching the game in good faith in their own POV overall yes.
:/
Did you roll scum? Sad days, dk, sad days.
I think i'll try not to see the world where koba and bingleare together.i mean i'm giving koba the benefit of the doubt today.
In post 1918, Bingle wrote:
I disagree that there’s nuance. Performance, but not nuance.
Again nothing much ofnote.at this point i was in the know that binglewas gonna try and gun for the one opening he had,that is, the one thing veryhappy didnt claim.
In post 1928, Bingle wrote:
I swear I meant to do things tonight, but a 10 hour shift turned into a 13 hour shift unexpectedly because no one told me we had contractors on site tonight.
Instead I’ll just ask dk why they’re unconcerned with eir explicitly hiding information that there is no town motivation to hide.
Again nohting much.Redux so far: 'Eira Bad'
In post 1929, Bingle wrote:
dk, why are you unconcerned with eir explicitly hiding information that there is no town motivation to hide?
Nothing much. nomassclaim yet so doesn't really really matter does it,unlessi made yall afraid i got that guilty
In post 1929, Bingle wrote:
dk, why are you unconcerned with eir explicitly hiding information that there is no town motivation to hide?
what information + eira strikes me as the type to not share stuff willingly like that so its not really a good reason to scumread them over their dayplay
The actual submission that turned into a vt. It literally can’t hurt to share a submission that was vetoed, as explained earlier. It is also an easy lie to make. I don’t think eiralox has an answer to the question, which means…
In post 1936, Eiralox wrote:
Can't say your viewpoint encourages me. Bingle has no solid reasoning. Not_Mafia is Not_Mafia, radiant and pure. Itenerants has been on every wagon basically day one and simply doesn't act town from what I've felt.
The correct play is voting in Bingle, Enchant, Itenerants. My plan at least.
Makes me a bit sad that your take is 'maybe just go for cook or eira, there's people voting there.'
But I'm not pushing you today so you do you.
This is pretty much a perfect example of what eir is doing that’s sketch as fuck, in case anyone is genuinely confused.
This is ATE “it makes me sad that you’re willing to vote me” while simultaneously discrediting his wagon. they offer enchant up for an alternative despite having had even less evidence to share about enchant than I have about them. The pushes are shallow AF (Bingle isn’t reading!).
Everything about eirs play is “Please don’t lim me.”
And for the record, my initial reason for voting them was the attempt to target the day op rather poorly. Similarly to how I spent a lot of resources in veiled committee trying to target the various investigations.
Redux: *Eira scummy for FOSING itenerants and enchant
*Eira scummy for wanting to stay alive
*eiras scummy for disrecditing the wagin in them
In post 1939, KatyKimFanClub wrote:
Hello, can someone explain uPick to me? I replaced in but in retrospect maybe I should have figured out the theme and stuff beforehand.
People picked roles. They got one of those roles, unless they sucked so hard at picking that TL said fuck off. Eiralox claims to have sucked at picking and also won’t share the role they didn’t get, presumably because they are ignoring all of my posts.
waste of my time. should be clear to anyone this is scum or third party
tl;dr
Bingle is scummy because Bingle doesn't want to effort to read the first half of the game and is fixating on things that have happened since his replace in.
Bingle is scummy for not approaching the game in depth in any real capacity until post #2005, they now realize they need allies. Tries to get Meg, who they say seem townie but is de facto cleared already. Tries to get gamma, who's bound to become a strong voice and a wagon setter along with DkKoba, by using a very basic and lazy read.
Bingle is scummy for the way they've been dancing around Itenerants and Enchant.
Bingle is scummy because Bluesnakelet is scummy.
Bingle is scummy because how they've basically been informed that Eira isn't on their team by how they've approached Eira, never sensed any doubt in them.
Bingle is scummy because they're very likely in a pt with Itenerants and don't have much maneuvering space in this day.
Bingle is scummy because in tone that's just how they feel. In intent. By actions.
Bingles is scummy because, again, before #2005 they didn't really care to 'sort' other slots or show themselves concerned with the state of the game or town's chances in it.
Bingle is scummy because.
Bingle is scummy because can anyone tell me who they suspect other than me?
Bingle bingle bingle.
Afterthought, Bingle scummy for knowing Eira town, suspecting Eira isn't VT because Eira is targeting Itenerants, Pushing Eira on: 'what's happy's townpick', 'bad faith' and 'fake' and 'Everything Eira has said is excrement.' Town are looking to discover threats and eliminate them. Town is uncertain. Town tries at least, most of the time, to discover who's town,who they can trust at least a bit. Scum however only need to kill, in this setup perhaps also discover threats, but overall are looking to secure their position. I have no desire to defend myself against Bingle because there's little to defend against. If, say, Koba was to think I'm scum I'd be efforting and struggling far harder because probably the push would make sense. Here it doesn't, by intent it is predatory and not town motivated, and so on. I'm typing all of it anyway and explaining why because we're needing an elim and Katykim and wheme already sorta silent, pisskop watching from the sidelines, zzzx idek. so someone has to type a lot of words and try to make some sense to get somewhere i guess.
In post 2003, Bingle wrote:
Eiralox is scummy for excessive survivalism and discrediting the wagon against them in a bad faith manner.
Eira does indeed want to survive very much. Eira has indeed discredited Bingle's vote on them, and while not in bad faith Eira is sufficiently irritated by Bingle to no have any decently minded or friendly approach towards pushes by the slot. Call it disgruntled faith, frustrated faith, amused faith. but i'm not hating on anyone over a text game.
The Koba vote Eira wanted to understand, and does. No discrediting, no bad faith. Eira did say at the start that they're not impressed by Kkoba but after reading Day one and gauging intent this has utterly changed.
The Not_Mafia vote Eira took in good humor, yes did humorously discredit it a bit, never understood it, on the whole no bad faith because Eira loves Not_Mafia.
The Itenerants vote Eira never bothered to discredit in any faith because it was expected, it's ineffectual and overall a bit boring.
The second koba vote and gamma vote eira was completely fine with because koba was set as town and gamma sort of felt like it. the unvote very much raised gamma's town chances to highly probable.
In post 2003, Bingle wrote:
wrt the first, effort is NAI for people who aren't trash tier players.
wrt the second: Yes, actually.
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Post #2056 (isolation #43) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:21 am
Postby Eiralox »
i can go wheme but it bores me a bit. enchant sort of is poking head out of shell was hoping the same for itenerants. chance's are i'm not getting an itenerants lim i guess people don't seem into it but i'm not changing my vote to bingle or enchant rn. maybe even bingle i can push thru outside our 1v1 stuff, maybe also enchant but nah i like targeting roles i feel are more valuable for non towns to keep.
dedline still frozen so time i guess but seems like wheme is choice of the day.
immma go smoke nice cloudy day don't want to spend that much time on this rn tbh
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Post #2064 (isolation #45) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:45 am
Postby Eiralox »
If I'm on board for wheme that probably means that ZZZX, pisskop, and MegA need to be as well. Not sure if Not_Mafia gets cloned and how their votes sways. Not sure if Katykim is going to be around the next two days and how they wanna vote if they got any ideas. psyche didn't strike me as jester-like so safe i guess.
I legit haven’t read this game can u give me a quick why them
just ISO me right now it's more like we're both the biggest wagons so if u vote bingle or enchant i see myself sheeping u. for your survival basically.
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Post #2144 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:01 am
Postby Eiralox »
for anyone that doesn't wanna read but i guess just in general:
pisskop seems cleared and is poet
megA seems cleared
Cook seems town
Gamma seems town
ZZZX maybe town but ?
Titus ?
This leaves Bingle and Itenerants, ISo me if curious fo mo. anyone wanna know one reason y i'm on itenerants just check the d1 vc i did and maybe mesh koba and wheme on it and see how itenerants voted. i might do that when i'm less chill like whenever. days from now probs.
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Post #2173 (isolation #54) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:34 am
Postby Eiralox »
scum playing the ignorant act while probably having pages and pages of planning in pt btw. idk if 3:2 is likely/2:2 doesnt seem likely with bibliophile/my feel has settled on 4 scums but eh. i'm happy to vote out either bingle or iten at this point. ciao
bingle is an easy read. just check bluensek iso. consider that bingle doesnt care about the town. then check what i mentioned day 2: bluesnek bussed itenerants and enchant both to create 'distance' before repping out.
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Post #2175 (isolation #56) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:40 am
Postby Eiralox »
and bingre and iten voted wheme because i'm starting to think maybe having zzzx as possible last ditch deep wolf, and to prevent scenario where no scum except maybe enchant is on the wheme wagon. also if wheme didnt happen with koba alive chances are bingle and maybe maybe itenerants wouldve happened. enchant took one for the team, they were planning around it.
it's all pretty straightforward only place where im not sure on is xxxz so far but i got time so *shrug* see ya'll
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Post #2176 (isolation #57) » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:19 am
Postby Eiralox »
In post 2167, Itinerants wrote:
So if Enchant HAD done that, who was likely to go over in Wheme's place? Looking through the VCs... Eiralox was the primary wagon before Wheme
i'm gonna analyze this sentence. the premise is: Enchant and Eira aligned.
Gamma Emerald: Scum Partner?
Cook: Scum Partner?
DkKobA: Departed Doctor
Bingle: Respected Member of Town
pisskop: A deity among mortals
Itenerants: Respected Member of Town
Enchant: Heartbroken Bamboozler and Eira's pal in crime
Aren't Eira's partners Cook and Gamma? Bingle and Itenerants have only been talking about Eiralox since Day 2 except when Bingle voted Cook so this is a guessing game. A bit hard with such limited info for me as a humble traitor to find my buddies.
So we gotta look at the people ain't voting then?
KatyKimFanClub: Scum Partner?
MegAzumarill: Basically cleared by a deity so uh.... No?
WhemeStar: Ded
ZZZX: Scum Partner?
Ok no... Hmmm who's left?
Not_Mafia: Jacksonvirgo?
Eiralox: Maybe there are only two scum, you know?
Who is it then? Who voted Wheme to save me when probability is Bingle would have gone over if wheme convinced Koba instead of deciding enough was enough down with books. Cook and Gamma? Has to be. who else? I mean i do love puzzles.
anyway.
i wanna hear from other people insteada havin to type so counternarrative this i guess
bingle is an easy read. just check bluensek iso. consider that bingle doesnt care about the town. then check what i mentioned day 2: bluesnek bussed itenerants and enchant both to create 'distance' before repping out.
???
Are you claiming bluesnek deliberately voted somewhere with the intent of replacing out and creating distance with it? That’s rule-breaking if you’re correct so that’s a serious allegation.
what? i'm saying bluesnake voted enchant and itenerants as bus votes. as in to seem normal later on but it stuck out to me due to iten tone. just read what i said about bluesnake day 2. and that's a minor thing anyway just tone stuff i noticed mostly, way it occurred. no idea what you talking about.
all that matters is who bingle and itenerants think are scum and why. because so far for two days all they've done is strategically decide when to post while pushing me cos it seems that's the plan lol.