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Post #720 (isolation #6) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:07 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 358, Bell wrote:
Meh, bottom reads seem right for this phase.
But I’m paranoid of like, everyone. In your higher reads.
Relatisvistic still hasn’t established why they should scum read me for my claim other than that it was a scummy role that I claimed in a townie manner and thus I as scum (the glaring assumption ) did it to get town read.
Then they backpedaled to caution preaching before giving up the ghost when Dunnstral came by.
VOTE: bell
This seems like a post trying to make it seem like you're contributing but not really.
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Post #722 (isolation #7) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:09 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 363, Joyboy wrote:
IF UR NAME IS HERE I WANT MEAT
BELL
LADYTERMINALLYOFFLINE
HU TAO
SAKURA HANA
DUNNSTRAL
MAID CAFE (WHERE'S MY ORDER?!?!?!)
RELATIVISTIC YOURMOTHER
LEMON.FOOD
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Post #723 (isolation #8) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:11 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 392, Bell wrote:
I’m not trying to hit my tonal points. My tone is just similar because I’m town.
This isn’t even the first time you’ve done the hah you perspective slipper thing on me Pooky, I’m pretty sure you’ve done it before. On others and it wasn’t true or accurate there either.
In post 310, lemon.tangerine wrote:
Anyway inregards to our setup (i read someone posted it about being alot of 1-shot abilities which ofc it is lol) Id say that alot of ppl probably have much more creative abilities than on other forums.
Just a rumour i heard that setups are often more creative on mafiascum, sooo im expecting ppl to be doing more than complain abt union leaders lol
Aka throw nukes everywhere ty <3
Also n1 actions are gonna be p chaotic i assume bc 14 ppl all using joat actions lol (yes 15-1 is 14 after wagon)
So like what happens if everyone just kills another player?
Our noble group is 17 players, not 15. Likewise, we are blessed with a suite of one shots, made abundantly clear in the pre-game literature. Yet, this post is casual, nay, skeptical, about the existence of our one shots. Observe the hedging: "I read someone posted it", "a rumor", "probably have much more creative abilities". Our JOAT abilities were clear from the moment we signed up for the union!
COMRADES! I ask of you, why would a hard-working member of the proletariat ignore their unique skills and abilities? They would not. JOAT abilities are our way of interacting with the world, our way of finding information, our way of aiding and protecting allies, our way of furthering the perpetual march of progress! To ignore our skills is anathema to everything we stand for!
Therefore, there can be only one conclusion. Lemon.tangerine is a perfidious union-buster, as sour as his name. He has ignored his innate skills to focus on another ability, one shared with all scum. Murder.
VOTE: lemon.tangerine
Actually doesn’t this suggest otherwise? Omitting 2 players assumes 3-men team and if my brain still works correctly 17p usually has 4-men team, no?
I would indeed expect a 13-4 split; the foul bourgeoise would have sent no less than that to try, futile though it may be, to shatter our noble spirits. No, Lemon's omission of two comrades is a minor error that I would expect from distraction; instead the smoking gun of their perfidy comes from the skepticism of abilities. Reread their first sentence and tell me that it is not hedging, that is not feigned nonchalance. While the braying of Bell's possible slip still rings in our ears, lemon's words offer a far more damning perspective.
Lap is town. So far he seems like last 2 town games
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Post #734 (isolation #14) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:22 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 472, lemon.tangerine wrote:
Yikes, Anywayy I don't really get the hype abt Bell's saecificial cult going on but i don't really care enough to stop it.
Joyboy is scummier than Bell if we ignore the "perspective slip" which i will be ignoring bc tbh if nobody is going to write it out in one post explaining it then ill give you my opinion on it.
Now because some ppl will forsure misunderstand this, Ill say this is simpler terms.
Bell maybe scum? Yes Is bell the best vote currently? No
Im happy with killing Joyboy before anyone else forsure And hu tao better get their head in the game soon
VOTE: Joyboy
What exactly has joyboy done except role-playing that's scummy?
In post 547, lemon.tangerine wrote:
Meanwhile Joyboy is a much more attractive vote in my eyes, same as Hu Tao maybe
This, however, is extremely distressing, and reductionist. There are very different sets of circumstances between what Joyboy has in the thread and what Hu Tao does, and you seem to be equating them as the same.
Allay my fears... Can you explain what exactly about both of those names strikes you?
I was just about to ask about this so I'm glad you did. Lemon seems a bit suspicious to me so far
In post 547, lemon.tangerine wrote:
Meanwhile Joyboy is a much more attractive vote in my eyes, same as Hu Tao maybe
This, however, is extremely distressing, and reductionist. There are very different sets of circumstances between what Joyboy has in the thread and what Hu Tao does, and you seem to be equating them as the same.
Allay my fears... Can you explain what exactly about both of those names strikes you?
the only thing i meant as "same" was attractive votes btw
I just don't like either of their posts from a first read
Yeah lemon seems like scum here. This isn't a good response and seems like a surface level read. Joyboy is an easy push for being a role playing character and me being an easy push for someone that said that hasn't posted much and stated they would catch up later and hasn't. Both different scenarios which aren't actually trying to read the people but the scenario. Had they explained what about joyboy they disliked besides the role playing I would maybe believe them, but nope.
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Post #741 (isolation #20) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:32 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 567, Joyboy wrote:
Bell - real talk I vaguely remembering people jumping on bell historically a lot very early for "low energy". Are they easy to read? Ya, probably if you give him 30 pages. I agree they're not aligned with LTO tho! NEED MORE MEAT OR I'M GONNA FIGHT HIM!
Joyboy - I'M MONKEY D. LUFFY AND I'M GONNA BE THE MAN WHO BECOMES KING OF THE PIRATES
Dunnstral - NEED MORE MEAT
Maid Cafe (hydra of MariaR and Beeboy) - NAMI MAY HAVE ROBBED THE DOG BUT THEY'RE A GOOD PERSON! WAITING FOR SANJI
HolySpiritTurtle - CREWMATE
Laplacian - FELLOW PIRATE
Hu Tao - NEED MORE MEAT
Doctor Drew greedant - NEED MORE MEAT
PookyTheMagicalBear - CREWMATE BEAR
Firebringer - CREWMATE DOG
Sakura Hana - NEED MORE MEAT
LadyTerminallyOffline - I'M GONNA FIGHT YOU!
Relativistic Harmony (hydra of TemporalLich and RH9) - A very boring pirate who practices in the box thinking and thinks people need to say their reasons for things
light_ganski - FELLOW PIRATE
lemon.tangerine - NEED MORE MEAT
Titus - CREWMATE LAWYER
Ircher - FELLOW PIRATE
Like he's role playing but he's actually giving reads, it's just coming off as standoffish because of how he's doing it. I think if lemon actually was suspicious of Joyboy, they would follow up on some of their posts. Maybe they do after this though.
In post 565, Bell wrote:
I’m literally no more accurate than anyone else. I can be a trusted voice without being eliminated because I am easy to read and I only get more difficult to eliminate over time.
Ok soooo wanna vote joyboy?
What’s wrong with joyboy besides that they’re a gimmick?
You have something to find them town for?
Another example of them being scum. YOU brought up the fact you want them eliminated. Why are you asking someone else for reasons why they are town when being asked why YOU think they are scum
Bell is on an upward trend while Joyboy is continuing the all caps fluff posts
the Joyboy post that looks like a read list is hard for me to interpret but seems easy to fake
-TL
Hmm. At first I was going to say this was sus but I could believe the second part. At least they are trying to give reasons why the reads list could be hard for them to read.
Is there any reason you did not bring up Sakura Hana in the same statement? (I understand giving Light a break as she is currently marked as on a vacation)
In post 605, lemon.tangerine wrote:
hey titus, as of now could you maybe look somewhere else that isnt bell?
I have. Joyboy and broccoli are acceptable.
Note comrades, that after I call out Titus's words as being anti-union, she now casts aspersions on my vegeacious self! There is no supporting evidence in her words. Engels himself described this very action in his work
Behaviors of the Modern Capitalist
as an "OMGUS"
It's interesting that no one has an issue with lap role playing but issue with joyboy
Bell gth town
Maid Cafe (hydra of MariaR and Beeboy) null +
HolySpiritTurtle gth town
Laplacian null +
PookyTheMagicalBear null +
Firebringer gth town
LadyTerminallyOffline gth town
Relativistic Harmony (hydra of TemporalLich and RH9) gth town
Titus gth town
Ircher null+
This leaves a poe of
Joyboy
Dunnstral
Hu Tao
Doctor Drew
Sakuna Hana
light_ganski
i don't expect my townreads to be all pure but meh i don't see reasons to doubt them
Ah the low posters and the role play account are the poe. How convenient
Please by the end of this catchup we have more votes on lemon
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Post #757 (isolation #27) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:43 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 642, Laplacian wrote:
VOTE: Joyboy
Comrades, upon rereading I find Joyboy's roster of pirates and foes in revolutionary pamphlet #567 alarming. As has been called out by the ever-vigilant Doctor Drew and Lady Terminally Online, it included the absent light_ganski as an ally of Joyboy's under flimsy pretenses. Furthermore, the only two foes on the roster were Bell, a safe accusation at the time, and LTO, who is new to this union and its unique quirks. Joyboy then even says that LTO and Bell, his only two suspects are
not
aligned, meaning their read list only truly has one suspect in the end. I fear this incoherent list represents not Joyboy's true feelings, but was hastily built with ulterior motives. Joyboy is trying to deflect suspicion from away from his capitalistic lust for treasure.
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Post #759 (isolation #28) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:45 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 651, Bell wrote:
Laplacian is portrait painting which always makes me nervous. They’re listing out people’s characteristics to inflate and complement them. But they don’t really have much to do with whether they’re scum or not and gives them room to maneuver, but that might just be because it’s day 1, so that fits that way too.
This is your best post so far. Not that I agree with it I just think it's believable you think this
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Post #762 (isolation #29) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:48 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 687, Sakura Hana wrote:
LTO, Lemon, Titus all town.
I'm tired i'll continue later, so i'll remind myself i need to start from Page 23
Sakura could be scum here. Not only for the lemon read. But Sakura whenever she is town is OBVIOUS town. And right now she's not. Last game when I called her out on not being clear town she was scum. So it's worth looking into. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now though that's its just a lot of pages. But as the day goes on, I'll be looking back at this
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Post #765 (isolation #30) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:49 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 706, Bell wrote:
I think Laplacian is off. Portrait I tend to find scummy.
I naturally hate Hu Tao's current play.
Titus is off: They're sheeping saying they have multiple theories but didn't answer when I asked them what theories they had or how me dying would help with that or why I seemed like a good elimination based on a perspective slip. I know they're weird, but this is veering into burden of proficiency and they are not jumping over it.
Pooky: BOP. they have one page left.
Ircher: has their own excuses see recent page. It's unclear to me if they're choosing a political landscape, there have been a lot of players that have approached this game with really poor takes so I'm finding it hard to figure out which ones I should actually BOP and which one's I should not. Ircher said it was 50/50 controlling for roll numbers, so there's a big question mark toward why they lean scum.
Relativisitic: Same, leaned scum into a caution preach into you're right Dunn!
Already wrote about Dunnstral and my mixed feelings of them correcting for their interpretation and being generally accurate. It's weird seeing someone cut through the bullshit and articulate themselves better than I could. Maybe they're informed, maybe they had a good opening.
Lemon: Their positioning is unique, it doesn't come off as scummy to me. Some of their approach reminds me specifically of townie things I've seen players or myself do in the past. I'm not sure what advantage they gain by approaching people's reads of me by saying that Pooky's reasoning sucks and changing position on it.
Luffy: I dunno. My patience is running out but I'm not really reading into them. there's only so much focus I can have and they're just kind of randomly voting people. It's normal for me not to focus on everyone.
FB: Characterized my play correctly, their movement or engagement and how they're engaging feels very similar to their town game.
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Post #769 (isolation #31) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:51 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 719, Bell wrote:
They're going to put you there because you deserve pressure for not existing as other players go up, players that aren't doing anything tend to go down. It's a rat race for scum and even Pooky scum knows that.
Next question
Well other players at that point had barely contributed as well
What if I told you that both votes could possibly be correct?
In post 472, lemon.tangerine wrote:
Joyboy is scummier than Bell if we ignore the "perspective slip" which i will be ignoring bc tbh if nobody is going to write it out in one post explaining it then ill give you my opinion on it.
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Post #777 (isolation #33) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:55 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 758, Bell wrote:
Hu tao, you can't posible not realize you're picking and choosing posts.
I mind melded right after Maid did by saying the same thing and had not read their posts at the time but it was ignored.
Likewise you ignored Pooky's read list that was also basically an activity read's list.
why are you approaching the game in a way that has these obvious discrepancies?
Wasn't pookys list the first I called out as fake?
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Post #780 (isolation #34) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:57 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
Okay. I'm officially caught up. And my disappointment that no one is voting lemon is immeasurable. If I had gotten the day vig I wanted I would have shot it already.
In post 758, Bell wrote:
Hu tao, you can't posible not realize you're picking and choosing posts.
I mind melded right after Maid did by saying the same thing and had not read their posts at the time but it was ignored.
Likewise you ignored Pooky's read list that was also basically an activity read's list.
why are you approaching the game in a way that has these obvious discrepancies?
Wasn't pookys list the first I called out as fake?
Huh. Well is it fake? What's the difference between a fake reads wall meant to pressure people you don't have a read on and a fake reads wall that is antispew or scummy. Day one, it's pretty common.
In my experience scum usually feels the need to out a more structured reads list like that early which is why I was sus on it at first. I don't really dislike any of pooky's posts since. Though I'll admit I've been focused on you and lemon
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Post #787 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:05 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
Bell - sus
Joyboy - I don't hate at the moment. He did the same thing as town last game.
Dunnstral - who?
Maid Cafe - mindmelted could be town
HolySpiritTurtle- who?
Laplacian - very similar to the town lap I saw for 2 games, role-playing aside
greedant - who?
PookyTheMagicalBear - don't hate any of their posts
Firebringer - prob town seems more natural than his scum game
Sakura Hana - could be scum, when she was scum she was similar to this
LadyTerminallyOffline - mind melted could be town
Relativistic Harmony - who?
light_ganski -who?
lemon.tangerine - scum
Titus - I think she gets more obvious as the day goes on.
Ircher - I was scum with him before and it's similar so far but not a reliable read. Leaning null
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Post #788 (isolation #38) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:06 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 785, Bell wrote:
I don't think I see what you see at all Hu Tao. Our perspectives are very different. You could be scum I guess.
Or you could just be seeing the game from a different perspective. I think Lemon is town. I could be wrong.
* think I'm just going to have to make a promise with myself to stop posting for the night after responding to ETO* I would be being a whole lot more effectual if I stopped nd just reread the game and posted more. But I still, don't think you're paying attention if you think I haven't been responding or reading people.
*tunnel vision*
I don't think I said you haven't been responding or reading people?
In post 787, Hu Tao wrote:
Bell - sus
Joyboy - I don't hate at the moment. He did the same thing as town last game.
Dunnstral - who?
Maid Cafe - mindmelted could be town
HolySpiritTurtle- who?
Laplacian - very similar to the town lap I saw for 2 games, role-playing aside
greedant - who?
PookyTheMagicalBear - don't hate any of their posts
Firebringer - prob town seems more natural than his scum game
Sakura Hana - could be scum, when she was scum she was similar to this
LadyTerminallyOffline - mind melted could be town
Relativistic Harmony - who?
light_ganski -who?
lemon.tangerine - scum
Titus - I think she gets more obvious as the day goes on.
Ircher - I was scum with him before and it's similar so far but not a reliable read. Leaning null
Well I will just fuck off I guess.....
(I repped in for Greedant)
Well I still would have put who?
I didn't see much or any of your posts in my catchup
In post 787, Hu Tao wrote:
Bell - sus
Joyboy - I don't hate at the moment. He did the same thing as town last game.
Dunnstral - who?
Maid Cafe - mindmelted could be town
HolySpiritTurtle- who?
Laplacian - very similar to the town lap I saw for 2 games, role-playing aside
greedant - who?
PookyTheMagicalBear - don't hate any of their posts
Firebringer - prob town seems more natural than his scum game
Sakura Hana - could be scum, when she was scum she was similar to this
LadyTerminallyOffline - mind melted could be town
Relativistic Harmony - who?
light_ganski -who?
lemon.tangerine - scum
Titus - I think she gets more obvious as the day goes on.
Ircher - I was scum with him before and it's similar so far but not a reliable read. Leaning null
Well I will just fuck off I guess.....
(I repped in for Greedant)
Well I still would have put who?
I didn't see much or any of your posts in my catchup
When playing in a large role madness game with Firebringer and Pooky, I will get lost in the shuffle haha......so that is fair I didn't make an impression on you.
But I am still a bit hurt
you know I like playing with you Drew
But I agree. Larges are really hard to not get lost in the shuffle. What are your thoughts so far on anyone you have a strong read about?
In post 642, Laplacian wrote:
VOTE: Joyboy
Comrades, upon rereading I find Joyboy's roster of pirates and foes in revolutionary pamphlet #567 alarming. As has been called out by the ever-vigilant Doctor Drew and Lady Terminally Online, it included the absent light_ganski as an ally of Joyboy's under flimsy pretenses. Furthermore, the only two foes on the roster were Bell, a safe accusation at the time, and LTO, who is new to this union and its unique quirks. Joyboy then even says that LTO and Bell, his only two suspects are
not
aligned, meaning their read list only truly has one suspect in the end. I fear this incoherent list represents not Joyboy's true feelings, but was hastily built with ulterior motives. Joyboy is trying to deflect suspicion from away from his capitalistic lust for treasure.
Comrade, can I direct you to look at lemon?
Comrade Tao, I have already looked at lemon extensively, as per my grandiose speech in 318! I concluded that they where subtly undermining our union with their rhetoric. My post included both a vote for him and a delightful pun! I would be happy to vote him again should we convince more of our fellow workers of the world to unite in this cause. But first, I must investigate LTO's argument and Bell's rebuttal. This may take a while, as the combined length of both rivals the seminal work
In post 829, Bell wrote:
I really don't think I'm a good lim here though.
I know it's convenient and all for my last ability to be a 1-shot novice alibi guy, since I'm basically a more powerful one shot cop that conveniently gets to live one more day.
But here we are.
bell why do u continue talking about ur role like anyone cares.
we are all power roles
It's a way of deflecting imo. I was waiting for someone to bring this up
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Post #856 (isolation #45) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:20 pm
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 848, Maid Cafe wrote:
There's a level of importance most people place on role or value because as you can tell people probably submitted "good" or "fun" roles (maybe both) so it's sort of a moot point.
Bell is simply saying that they used the information in a "pro town" way. Now, is that true? Eh, for debate and not one I care to engage on.
Let's talk about how Doctor Drew deserves pressure.
VOTE: Doctor Drew
Might have to take off my town ready of you. I hate when players put down a vote and say they are doing it for pressure. Seems like overexplaining that's scum would do
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Post #1022 (isolation #49) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:43 am
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 903, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:
I’d disclose a reason but there is a certain pattern I am focusing on regarding their posts and I’d rather not out it until either I find it moot or more concrete.
idfk who you havent given a read on yet. Plus it isnt even my question, however if i turned it into my question id ask for a Hu tao and doctor drew read
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Post #1029 (isolation #56) » Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:54 am
Postby Hu Tao »
In post 1007, lemon.tangerine wrote:
P much with the attitude Titus has been having and going abt questioning me on justifying my reads, If they were a consistent town they wouldve asked me why i put them higher in their town reads and asked for reasoning same as hst