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Post Post #2771 (isolation #400) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:44 pm

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In post 2763, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2760, lemon.tangerine wrote: aka thatmeans bell is guaranteed town
What makes you think that

I’m definitely scum here. Imo.
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Post Post #2777 (isolation #401) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:48 pm

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In post 2708, Maid Cafe wrote: Every single action last night besides fractional ones went to Bell.

You claimed you watched Bell, right? If your action goes after mine you should see everyone who used a N1 action then.

YW
Why would you do this?
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Post Post #2788 (isolation #402) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:00 pm

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It’s not policy to me, but Maid, I do need reasoning, not a troll joke.
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Post Post #2792 (isolation #403) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:05 pm

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What do you mean by high volume
Target?
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Post Post #2797 (isolation #404) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:09 pm

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Even better, I don’t really die after.
But you didn’t mention that.
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Post Post #2804 (isolation #405) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:11 pm

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Genuine question, why did TLO decide to watch Hu Tao when they weren’t likely to be targeted by scum roles?
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Post Post #2806 (isolation #406) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:12 pm

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In post 2803, Maid Cafe wrote: Me using my role isn't playing against my win-con so sorry that you're a bit upset that I of your actions got used.
The argument was silly on its face but I assume he was trying to bait you into a defensive posture.
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Post Post #2807 (isolation #407) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:14 pm

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Welcome Aboard Joyboy.

Was Pooky cleared or is it just that they’re so good at this game that they managed a patented pooky pocket?
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Post Post #2814 (isolation #408) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:18 pm

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In post 2810, LadyTerminallyOffline wrote:
In post 2807, Bell wrote: Welcome Aboard Joyboy.

Was Pooky cleared or is it just that they’re so good at this game that they managed a patented pooky pocket?
Do you want to tell me the first person in the game thread to notice and point out the post that got harmony eliminated?
You? I thought it was you.
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Post Post #2817 (isolation #409) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:20 pm

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Could you point to where? I’ll figure out the rest.
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #410) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:27 pm

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In post 2819, LadyTerminallyOffline wrote:
In post 1681, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1651, Relativistic Harmony wrote:
In post 1640, Sakura Hana wrote: Actually, no, dont bother, ill just ignore any meta arguments from here on out
VOTE: Pooky

In post 1649, Bell wrote: VOTE: Pooky
explain why you would vote obvious town that was townspewed by a perspective slip

this applies to both Sakura Hana and Bell

without an explanation I am treating this as a scumclaim

-TL

its actually wild TL is asking Bell why he would vote me when I'm perspective spewed as Town by Bell's perspective spew
Ah, they slipped. I took the post to mean that it was silly for them to expect Bell not to fight back after being outted as scum.
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Post Post #2834 (isolation #411) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:29 pm

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They got overexcited, tbh, it looks like, on TL’s part. Strangely amateurish, but I missed it so glass houses.

I wonder if it means anything for Sakura’s alignment.
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Post Post #2839 (isolation #412) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:39 pm

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I think I can bear the bear for awhile.
I’m allergic to single posts that point away from someone. But I do think that the incredulity doesn’t make sense if they’re partners, even if the wording Pooky used is difficult for me to parse. I still can’t really tell if the purpose of the point is to mock TL into voting me because of course Bell would try to kill me after outting him or he’s pointing out that TL’s perspective is dumb and they should change their position that’s the primary topic. Or if they’re saying TL’s perspective itself is weird given they’re saying I was outed scum but they could only be assed to vote outed scum right then for daring to vote town.

I think due to the ordering it’s probably more about TL than me. But Pooky was fairly single minded.
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Post Post #2840 (isolation #413) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:47 pm

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Hmm.
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Post Post #2845 (isolation #414) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:04 pm

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I’m confused again why TLO was confused that I was lightning rodded they should have had a massive number of results.
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Post Post #2855 (isolation #415) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:41 pm

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In post 2846, LadyTerminallyOffline wrote: Massive number? It was two. Now three after the mod error resolved.
*blink*

Who were the three players you witnessed visiting me?

Shouldn’t there have been a lot more?
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Post Post #2857 (isolation #416) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:47 pm

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Lemon and laplace visited me, FB did not visit me? Maid did not visit me?
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Post Post #2861 (isolation #417) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:54 pm

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*tilts head* do bodyguards not come up on watches if they’re killed by scum?
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Post Post #2863 (isolation #418) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:55 pm

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Because if I was lightning rodded the bullet and FB should have been drawn to Me.
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Post Post #2865 (isolation #419) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:59 pm

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I have a modifier.
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Post Post #2881 (isolation #420) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:09 pm

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In post 2699, Titus wrote: Did Bell claim to use anything last night?
I didn’t use anything last night.
@TLO: reviewing
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Post Post #2883 (isolation #421) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:13 pm

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Found the answer.
I’m probably missing something but that makes the maid cafe action worse from an outcome perspective.
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Post Post #2885 (isolation #422) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:15 pm

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I already full claimed but it sounds like someone has to look at their role and figure out if their gift giving is a factional ability.


Or something else, I’m moderately confused I guess the ability itself may have some sort of resistance to that kind of thing. Balance reasons maybe. Don’t see why laplace would lie about it.
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Post Post #2917 (isolation #423) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:36 pm

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In post 2888, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2804, Bell wrote: Genuine question, why did TLO decide to watch Hu Tao when they weren’t likely to be targeted by scum roles?
I took your advice and asked why I'm being scumread and no one answered of course
I feel like you should probably already know this but if you ask a general question to a group nobody is going to answer it. you have to go out and shakedown each person individually

The question itself was more of a general placement question, most players had you somewhere in the middle or lower part of your reads, I don’t recall anyone town binning you, you say specifically that people tend to scum read you and night check you as either alignment. I may be putting words in your mouth there.
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Post Post #2921 (isolation #424) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:38 pm

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VOTE: Dunn

I’ll happily sheep people more successful at the hunting stuff than I am.
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Post Post #2929 (isolation #425) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:41 pm

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In post 2925, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2921, Bell wrote: VOTE: Dunn

I’ll happily sheep people more successful at the hunting stuff than I am.
You are sheeping who? Only you are voting me.
I’ll happily jump off and sheep someone else is what I meant. For now, I’m going with my personal aspiration.
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Post Post #2939 (isolation #426) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:45 pm

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I looked at them. That’s why I’m voting you.
Now are they bad reasons? Probably! I’m not confident.

Could you please point to which particular posts you made that absolve you of being partners with them?
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Post Post #2942 (isolation #427) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:46 pm

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In post 2937, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: I thought Drew was quasi-conftown’d but if all of triple parity went into Bell instead, my solve atm is Hu Tao, Drew, and light.
This may very well be the most milquetoast read list I have ever seen.
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Post Post #2947 (isolation #428) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:49 pm

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I thought it looked pretty performative, you were all like “oh no! Did I mess up by giving away that adding novice to the role could make them seem townier and then they took advantage?”

Being totally silent and not saying anything probably would have been the more natural post.
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Post Post #3052 (isolation #429) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:37 pm

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I agree that hu’s reaction was very different than what I was expecting. I don’t really understand the town angle to “I’m going to be removed from the game for something not in my power, this is bullshit” when there’s so much other shit to worry about and solve for.

But it’s one piece of many.
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Post Post #3053 (isolation #430) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:37 pm

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I am obviously scum.
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Post Post #3057 (isolation #431) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:40 pm

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I’m pretty sure I lose if I acknowledge the quotes within quotes within quotes posts.
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Post Post #3059 (isolation #432) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:46 pm

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I wonder why Maria claimed their ability at all.
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Post Post #3061 (isolation #433) » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:57 pm

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They already took a slightly negative ev action for the lolz, I’m not sure where the buck stops in their ethical carnival comittee.
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Post Post #3101 (isolation #434) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:50 am

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In post 3077, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:
In post 3052, Bell wrote: I agree that hu’s reaction was very different than what I was expecting. I don’t really understand the town angle to “I’m going to be removed from the game for something not in my power, this is bullshit” when there’s so much other shit to worry about and solve for.

But it’s one piece of many.
We call this “caught for the wrong reason”
I know, but like, two people said the same thing about me. The only difference here is that I tried to engage with the reasoning and hu Tao just said it was unfair.
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Post Post #3103 (isolation #435) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:54 am

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They are taking the criticism to heart and changing tack, but in the words of the insufferable, “heh, they must be scum because of course they would change their behavior after being shaded, that’s what scum does!”

And to that I say,
I’m not insufferable. So I won’t say that.
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Post Post #3104 (isolation #436) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:55 am

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Honestly this is an exercise in Bell trying to be fair and mafia, like life isn’t fair.

So. Shut up Bell.
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Post Post #3109 (isolation #437) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:59 am

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In post 3103, Bell wrote: They are taking the criticism to heart and changing tack, but in the words of the insufferable, “heh, they must be scum because of course they would change their behavior after being shaded, that’s what scum does!”

And to that I say,
I’m not insufferable. So I won’t say that.
In post 3105, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3101, Bell wrote:
In post 3077, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:
In post 3052, Bell wrote: I agree that hu’s reaction was very different than what I was expecting. I don’t really understand the town angle to “I’m going to be removed from the game for something not in my power, this is bullshit” when there’s so much other shit to worry about and solve for.

But it’s one piece of many.
We call this “caught for the wrong reason”
I know, but like, two people said the same thing about me. The only difference here is that I tried to engage with the reasoning and hu Tao just said it was unfair.
? I've been asking people what are you talking about
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Post Post #3124 (isolation #438) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:16 am

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In post 3115, Titus wrote: Fuck the nonsense. I still want the "policy" lim
I’m sorry, but we must deal with the nonsense.
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Post Post #3125 (isolation #439) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:17 am

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In post 3123, MariaR wrote: I suppose wasting everyone's time on trying to solve me would be boring, so I'm gonna just hard claim self-resolving and leave it at that.
Neat.
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Post Post #3127 (isolation #440) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:38 am

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Sorry contrary to my organized exterior and clear focus and single mindedness; not to mention my sterling professionalism.

I am also, confused as fuck.
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Post Post #3128 (isolation #441) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:39 am

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Ask me again in 15 hours.
at work. Paper due at midnight.
The day might resolve itself by then and it won’t matter.
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Post Post #3146 (isolation #442) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:48 am

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In post 3144, LadyTerminallyOffline wrote: Maria is absolutely not the play today. Her claim of self resolving absolutely fits her swagger in the thread and all I want to know is how long the self resolve needs. Giving it two or three cycles in a game this large and with the kind of poe and clear set we have is by no means not doable.
I’m afraid Maria always has that swagger.
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Post Post #3147 (isolation #443) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:58 am

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I would like the gun check player and the player that was gun checked to explain more. About why they were checked, what they think about the check who they think is and isn’t scum with reasoning etc.

In a game like this it’s a little tricky who is going to show up with a gun. But I think the information would be valuable to solving and getting another scum kill.

Assuming the explanations don’t check out, which they might.
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Post Post #3151 (isolation #444) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:21 am

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Why are you voting them without them answering?
Was it even a question?
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Post Post #3168 (isolation #445) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:21 am

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In post 3166, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3149, Ircher wrote:
In post 3091, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3079, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: light
I guess i could do Hu Tao as well, dont really have a personal preference atm.
Why am I scum
Why the focus on why you're scum?
Gets voted for not asking. Gets voted for asking 🤣
Now you’re getting it.
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Post Post #3195 (isolation #446) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:23 pm

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Is there some reason nobody wants to go after Dunn?
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Post Post #3197 (isolation #447) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:24 pm

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Drew’s just jealous of my sophistsmicated vocabularium.
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Post Post #3218 (isolation #448) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:13 pm

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In post 3216, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: My Dunn townread basically boils down to “I don’t think scum Dunn clear Maria like that with beeboy flake”
I know your wording is nuanced to include how Dunn tried to clear Maria through Beeboy.
But I’ll counter the argument with the following.

1. I would be pretty surprised if Dunstral was trying to make a persuasive argument with their angle. It seems near supplementary rather than something more.
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Post Post #3219 (isolation #449) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:22 pm

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I need to think more. ISO’d the first half of Dunn. I’m not sure they would be so fixated on a few players this game if they were town but their general positioning and the whole tower that Pooky and Dunn have built around RT’s mistake is both somehow massive and I missed it anyways. It points away from both of them, even though,I’m not deeply convinced of it.

I think I should probably just start focusing on the unfamiliar rather than the familiar.
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Post Post #3224 (isolation #450) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:56 pm

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In post 3222, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: Hu
This might be a vote on scum but it’s a bad vote.
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Post Post #3226 (isolation #451) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:02 pm

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The reasoning is off. No mays about it.

Hu Tao can be scum, drew can be town, but it’s a bad vote.
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Post Post #3232 (isolation #452) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:34 pm

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I don’t really engage with moral arguments. So, it’s neither good nor bad and it’s simply based on what someone values in a game.

In this case I was just saying the reasoning was incorrect.

I don’t see it anywhere, did the player that got gunsmith’d give a more detailed explanation of themselves and their role?
I think they should reveal which role(s)held the gun and they can keep the other two abilities to the themselves if they want.
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Post Post #3233 (isolation #453) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:35 pm

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Yes, I know I’m making an assumption that everyone has three abilities. Pretend I didn’t write that.
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Post Post #3244 (isolation #454) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:50 pm

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I’m excited that we get to kill 1 scum in HST/Hu Tao.
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Post Post #3252 (isolation #455) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:06 pm

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In post 3248, Titus wrote:
In post 3244, Bell wrote: I’m excited that we get to kill 1 scum in HST/Hu Tao.
At least 1.
I wanna believe the scum aren't that self-destructive.
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Post Post #3254 (isolation #456) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:13 pm

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I know I should be giving the momentum to Hu Tao and I feel like shit if Hu Tao is scum here because they’ve been sort of embarrassing themselves in the last 24 hours.

But I’m still leaning Hu Tao scum.
That said, I really think we ought to be careful, and just because HST comes off as more natural, well, awkward people can be town too.
Even if Hu Tao feels kind of gangly.
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Post Post #3255 (isolation #457) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:14 pm

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In post 3253, Ircher wrote: Maybe they're trying the DEFCON strategy again.
You know, you might have a point.
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Post Post #3257 (isolation #458) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:15 pm

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I should probably weigh this better, Hu Tao is trading so that should give them more points toward being town objectively.

Scum don’t do trades, it’s bad play.
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Post Post #3258 (isolation #459) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:17 pm

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That is slightly townie as a perspective LG.
Thanks.
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Post Post #3274 (isolation #460) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:14 pm

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In post 3268, LadyTerminallyOffline wrote: We all ready to move on, with the explicit understanding that tomorrow is a no-talking instantly vote Hu Tao to death speed run should this flip town?
This isn't the kind of thing I fuck up on. But I'm cautious about taking the obvious answer without looking at the worst scenario. It happens sometimes.
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Post Post #3289 (isolation #461) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:56 pm

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That sure is convoluted.
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #462) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:30 pm

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I’m just confused why you’re glad Hu Tao checked you when it just reflected it back at them. They know their own alignment, and the most that would happen is that they’d be confused why you’re showing up as scum when they know you aren’t.
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Post Post #3298 (isolation #463) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:31 pm

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…how would testing your reflect help town?
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Post Post #3299 (isolation #464) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:32 pm

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The strongest argument against HST scum is that no scum buddy proof read this claim.
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #465) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:36 pm

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Does it matter whether Hu Tao actually has that role if they called you guilty.
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Post Post #3306 (isolation #466) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:40 pm

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Weren’t you already pushing at them and given the game state where most people were against hu Tao, why aren’t you inclined to think it’s them being desperate scum making a play?
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Post Post #3307 (isolation #467) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:45 pm

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Hi Tao, would you fake claim a cop guilty as town?
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Post Post #3308 (isolation #468) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:45 pm

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In post 3307, Bell wrote: Hu Tao, would you fake claim a cop guilty as town?
EBWOP.
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Post Post #3311 (isolation #469) » Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:56 pm

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I’m saying your perspective doesn’t make sense.
Why would verifying that you have a reflect matter if Hu Tao was telling the truth about their ability as town or scum, or whether they were lying about it.

It’s like you’re posturing without a logical posture. It’s lizard/monkey brain pageantry, you’re puffed up, but your focus shouldn’t be there.

It’s late so I’m probably just confused.
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Post Post #3399 (isolation #470) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:47 am

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I can’t see a single good reason to test that.
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Post Post #3405 (isolation #471) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:50 am

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Yeah, but I’m pretty does it doesn’t activate until the beginning of the night phase.
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Post Post #3406 (isolation #472) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:52 am

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Did something happen when I was sleeping that made people think it was Hu Tao.
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Post Post #3411 (isolation #473) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:54 am

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…okay, I’m pretty sure none is that is relevant.
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Post Post #3418 (isolation #474) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:02 am

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I feel like a. 50/50 chance on killing scum is better than using your ability to get a 100% on it that results in us accidentally miseliminating today.
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Post Post #3420 (isolation #475) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:02 am

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In post 3415, light_ganski wrote:
In post 3392, Joyboy wrote: Also, Bell's Day 2 has been better?...ish?...Ya idunno lol. I hardly read D2. I was checked out because I wanted to be irrelevant and not play my hand too much. I mean now the game is just over so /shrug
bell is town if maria is scum. which is why bell is town. If somehow maria flips town at some point, bell is very very sus again

I’m actually neither sus nor scum.
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Post Post #3421 (isolation #476) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:03 am

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In post 3419, lemon.tangerine wrote: you think light is town? I don't
I’m talking about math.
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Post Post #3433 (isolation #477) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:26 am

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In post 3429, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3411, Bell wrote: …okay, I’m pretty sure none is that is relevant.
Yeah you should probably just continue to vote for me by yourself
Sounds good.
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Post Post #3434 (isolation #478) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:26 am

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Still sitting here, wondering why confirming that ability would matter.
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Post Post #3436 (isolation #479) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:27 am

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Oh. I see.
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Post Post #3439 (isolation #480) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:28 am

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Pretty much it would say Hu Tao is scum when they received the message/Hu Tao is town.
If they were being honest, Hu Tao would’ve led with that.
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Post Post #3466 (isolation #481) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:53 am

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Kill me.
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Post Post #3468 (isolation #482) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:54 am

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Hu Tao.
Straight up, did you fake a cop guilty on the fairy.
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Post Post #3474 (isolation #483) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:56 am

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VOTE: Hu Tao
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Post Post #3508 (isolation #484) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:23 am

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Why am I an orange.
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Post Post #3510 (isolation #485) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:30 am

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Oh good, I would’ve been offended if I were an orange.
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Post Post #3514 (isolation #486) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:32 am

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Yeah, I dunno.
Probably should murder Hu Tao for wasting everyone’s time and because their actions kind of go with the ebb and not the flow.
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Post Post #3515 (isolation #487) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:33 am

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What it means Hu Tao is that you aren’t getting why it’s a problem to fake claim, except in specific circumstances.
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Post Post #3524 (isolation #488) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:37 am

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In post 3513, Dunnstral wrote: Bell I am requesting that you use your day-night power on me if Hu Tao says I am innocent
Forward the request to the townie people for their sign off.
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Post Post #3526 (isolation #489) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:40 am

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In post 3524, Bell wrote:
In post 3513, Dunnstral wrote: Bell I am requesting that you use your day-night power on me if Hu Tao says I am innocent
Forward the request to the townie people for their sign off.
Repost. Low priority.
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Post Post #3555 (isolation #490) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:19 am

Post by Bell »

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Post Post #3608 (isolation #491) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:30 am

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Solving the game, they’ll be back any minute to save us from ourselves.
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Post Post #3611 (isolation #492) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:32 am

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UNVOTE:
Sigh.

Proceed with more discussion.
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Post Post #3625 (isolation #493) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:12 am

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I’ll simply state that I do want to kill Hu Tao.
This whole parade sucks.
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Post Post #3626 (isolation #494) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:16 am

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Like, fake check into real check when a real check out the gate would be fine?

No strategizing about how to build someone up to get the most information for the game state?

Either approach works.

Instead I just get a bunch of confusion.
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Post Post #3627 (isolation #495) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:16 am

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It reeks of panic.

Sorry if wrong.
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Post Post #3630 (isolation #496) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:18 am

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Yeah of course. Due diligence. I prefer how you two handled it. Thanks for doing it.
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Post Post #3633 (isolation #497) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:45 am

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What did you guys want me to do with Dunn? they asked for me to use my ability on them.
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Post Post #3635 (isolation #498) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:50 am

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Wrong, Klee is objectively the best.

Though I never got Klee but did get Hu Tao and Hu Tao is great.
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Post Post #3638 (isolation #499) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:53 am

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Yeah it has to be during the day phase.
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Post Post #3640 (isolation #500) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:02 am

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day Vig PookyTheMagicalBear


This is not real.
But you know, very small part of me dreams that someone has a passive where they shoot when you say it.
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Post Post #3646 (isolation #501) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:33 am

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VOTE: Hu Tao

I’m not targeting Dunn since no one piped up.
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Post Post #3649 (isolation #502) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:50 am

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UNVOTE:

Be cautious Sakura.
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Post Post #3661 (isolation #503) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:41 am

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I stopped playing Genshin, Part of me very much regretted it because for all of its flaws, its cloud city feature was a game on its own.
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Post Post #3662 (isolation #504) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:44 am

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In post 3656, LadyTerminallyOffline wrote:
In post 3655, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: lets not jinx it
That's half the fun.


You didn't ooh and ah at my Yoimiya so you die before endgame.

(No seriously, this bear is not allowed to the endgame scenarios please).
As an immortal tree stump, I'll be sure to remind everybody of this.

If you're still alive next game day I'll ask you about what changed on your read there.
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Post Post #3710 (isolation #505) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:44 pm

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….
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Post Post #3712 (isolation #506) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:47 pm

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I was lightning rodded again I think.

I was paranoia copped and Rick rolled.
I was also given a strongman shot.

Another thing also happened but I’m waiting for verification of some stuff before I’ll talk about it.
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Post Post #3715 (isolation #507) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:48 pm

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Hey Cabd thanks for replacing in!
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Post Post #3717 (isolation #508) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:48 pm

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I’m not mad! Really.
I’m not.
Hahaha
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Post Post #3718 (isolation #509) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:48 pm

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Hst did you target me?
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Post Post #3721 (isolation #510) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:49 pm

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Okay, but did you target me?
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Post Post #3727 (isolation #511) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:52 pm

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I’d have died. But there’s a loop hole in there in that it says per game day which does not include night.
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Post Post #3729 (isolation #512) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:53 pm

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Oh, so I wasn’t lightning rodded again. People just love targeting me I guess.
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Post Post #3733 (isolation #513) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:54 pm

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Why?
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Post Post #3736 (isolation #514) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:56 pm

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No, cabd replaced in. The mod said so. You can’t replace yourself, that would be silly.
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Post Post #3742 (isolation #515) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:58 pm

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In post 3739, Cabd wrote: Yeah I was trying out coming back on a low expectations alt and figured I'd roleplay while at it to be extra obnoxious slash for fun.

It wasn't really worth it. My persona lasted like a single phase before I fell into old habits anyways.

Also Titus we will talk post game but I promise it wasn't ill intent. (I know she's dead but she's reading I am sure). The parts about kiddo are real and if you don't want to gouge my eyes out would love to continue that convo.
This is how I approached Knell and it explains the cringe parallels.
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Post Post #3743 (isolation #516) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:59 pm

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So, did scum have two night kills this game. Oh. Shit. Never mind. Okay I get it.

I made an assumption.
I dumb proceed.
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Post Post #3752 (isolation #517) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:02 pm

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Can probably wrap the game up with a mass claim today tbh.

But, since I’m immortal and we have the kill for the day it’s not super necessary.
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Post Post #3754 (isolation #518) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:03 pm

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In post 3751, Cabd wrote: The upgraded hider and multiple neoghborizer honestly are such me roles I expected to be found out by role choice after lto flipped anyways.


Did Pooky or maria figure it out? I thought that there was a post from each of them that made me think they might have.
I should have figured it was you from the maxed out yoimiya.
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Post Post #3761 (isolation #519) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:08 pm

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In post 3760, Dunnstral wrote: They are a paranoid cop so would always get a guilty result.
Are they paranoid though? How do you know? Who sent you? :shifty:
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Post Post #3764 (isolation #520) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:10 pm

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Drew’s town. I think.
Yes, yes, late to the party I know.
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Post Post #3769 (isolation #521) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:13 pm

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I’m pretty certain I’m not allowed to be correct on a day one read.
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Post Post #3774 (isolation #522) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:15 pm

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In post 3772, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3764, Bell wrote: Drew’s town. I think.
Yes, yes, late to the party I know.
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Does this mean you’re scum?
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Post Post #3779 (isolation #523) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:19 pm

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In post 3778, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3774, Bell wrote:
In post 3772, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3764, Bell wrote: Drew’s town. I think.
Yes, yes, late to the party I know.
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Does this mean you’re scum?
Yes
Damnit
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Post Post #3783 (isolation #524) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:21 pm

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In post 3780, Cabd wrote: I'm sad that the guilty was fake. I wanted to run gif over with a steamroller while pretending to be somebody else.
You never know! It could’ve been a gambit to get themselves cleared. HST loves that kind of thing.
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Post Post #3785 (isolation #525) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:22 pm

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In post 3782, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3780, Cabd wrote: I'm sad that the guilty was fake. I wanted to run gif over with a steamroller while pretending to be somebody else.
Wait, gif was in here?
No, there is no gif in here.
They’re in the freezer.
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Post Post #3799 (isolation #526) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:33 pm

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It occurs to me that Cabd may have misread me this game. :o
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Post Post #3802 (isolation #527) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:34 pm

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In post 3800, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: I’ll still never get over that alt slip speedrun in that color game personally
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Post Post #3806 (isolation #528) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:37 pm

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Pooky claimed mafia.
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Post Post #3811 (isolation #529) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:38 pm

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Yeah I wasn’t cleared.
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Post Post #3812 (isolation #530) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:39 pm

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But Pooky seems to be the last maf.
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Post Post #3817 (isolation #531) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:43 pm

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Pretty sure Pooky is the last scum now.

Since they didn’t hand me the strongman ability and they’re pretending not to know what’s going on.
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Post Post #3819 (isolation #532) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:44 pm

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I dunno why they sunk R_T though.
People have a point about Pooky not really liking to bus.
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Post Post #3821 (isolation #533) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:45 pm

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I used my investigate.
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Post Post #3824 (isolation #534) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:46 pm

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I was loverized.
Pooky loverized me and then pretended he didn’t know he did it.
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Post Post #3826 (isolation #535) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:47 pm

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Yep.
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Post Post #3828 (isolation #536) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:48 pm

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Neighborhood.
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Post Post #3832 (isolation #537) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:49 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #3834 (isolation #538) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:49 pm

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Claim your abilities Pooky, you refused to do so in the neighborhood.
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Post Post #3837 (isolation #539) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:51 pm

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It was yes to both.
Unless I missed something. I was kind of worried I had because the way it’s listed is all the players you didn’t visit.
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Post Post #3840 (isolation #540) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:53 pm

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Yeah there are 17 players in the game and the only names missing from the result are yours and mine.
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Post Post #3843 (isolation #541) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:55 pm

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Yes, as scum with only one partner remaining alive (uh, unless there are 5) now is the perfect time for me to 1v1 you.
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Post Post #3846 (isolation #542) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:56 pm

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While we’re both lovers no less. I have to say my mafia master plan is just *chef’s kiss*
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Post Post #3848 (isolation #543) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:57 pm

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Yeah!
You really should not have loverized me!
Why did you do that!
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Post Post #3850 (isolation #544) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:58 pm

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Part of me thinks Firebringer did it.
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Post Post #3854 (isolation #545) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:02 pm

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How was this even going to end. L_G can’t carry.
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Post Post #3855 (isolation #546) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:03 pm

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Oh, I see.
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Post Post #3858 (isolation #547) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:06 pm

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No I think I’d rather scum just shoots us both.
Tbh. Then I can be free of Pooky.
And I can focus on finding the last scum.
If you aren’t.
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Post Post #3859 (isolation #548) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:07 pm

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In post 3857, Cabd wrote: I'm confused. Is that a bell confession+concession?
Oh my god Cabd, no I’m town.
I was saying that under the presumption Pooky actually meant to loverize me.
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Post Post #3864 (isolation #549) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:14 pm

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I feel like my entire world revolves around this one magicalbear and I want to experience new things. Things that don’t give me an aneurism when they say silly, magical things.
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Post Post #3865 (isolation #550) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:15 pm

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I feel very trapped (tunneled) in this relationship and I would like a divorce.
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Post Post #3867 (isolation #551) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:17 pm

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That would be living a lie Pooky, how can you stand it?
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Post Post #3870 (isolation #552) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:33 pm

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I dunno. Ask FF.
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Post Post #3871 (isolation #553) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:35 pm

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Actually, I’ll ask ff.
I’m going to bed after I ask and will provide an answer in the morning. Hopefully ff went to bed.
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Post Post #3872 (isolation #554) » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:44 pm

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What would have happened if Maria had lightning rodded Pooky.
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Post Post #3901 (isolation #555) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:35 am

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Yeeting me out of the game using my ability and then killing Pooky doesn’t protect me from dying with him. If he’s voted out.
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Post Post #3902 (isolation #556) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:40 am

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Um, I know I’m tunneled.

But I do find it very strange that Pooky would not claim a reflexive loverizer
While lurking out last day phase, while simultaneously admonishing maid for not playing strictly to win condition.
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Post Post #3905 (isolation #557) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:46 am

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That answers the maid lightning rod question but not the “oh by the way if I’m visited I’ll become lovers with you”
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Post Post #3907 (isolation #558) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:51 am

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He also called me anti town for not fully releasing my result to him in the neighborhood because he’s either scum and can’t win now or town and therefore he should be fully informed to fix the misunderstanding.

Without him claiming anything.
It wasn’t very polite.
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Post Post #3909 (isolation #559) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:55 am

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In post 3874, MariaR wrote: Drew/Light/Lap ends the game, right? Time to relax.
It does?
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Post Post #3912 (isolation #560) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:05 am

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well when you think about it,
They are likely going based off of where each letter is on the keyboard
There’s more distance between the letters as their ordering goes go from left to right
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Post Post #3913 (isolation #561) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:09 am

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I call this the lazy method or the leave the peas for last sorting method.
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Post Post #3916 (isolation #562) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:36 am

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Wut
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Post Post #3917 (isolation #563) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:36 am

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Why would they know you’re a reflexive loverizer?
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Post Post #3919 (isolation #564) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:45 am

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In post 2301, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: UNVOTE:

i volunteer to be kidnapped by bell and protected by RH's ability XD
In post 2303, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: I guess any other abilities that can hit me are also welcome bring your neighborizers and trackers and rolecops or whatever
In post 2308, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: im literally doing this for you duh
In post 3597, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: have i been copped

This weird.
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Post Post #3921 (isolation #565) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:47 am

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In post 3918, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: you r asking me why i didnt claim it


because if i claim it the mafia know not to shoot me
Okay and the town would know not to visit you.
Given there are 11 town and probably a lot of them are targetable and 4 scum,
Which do you think was more likely to happen.
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Post Post #3923 (isolation #566) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:48 am

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Oh.
So you activated it tonight.
That would be incredibly stupid of you to do if you were scum.
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Post Post #3926 (isolation #567) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:48 am

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2 scum died Pooky the odds of scum targeting you is a serious math fail.
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Post Post #3928 (isolation #568) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:49 am

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Okay and they would target you over Titus and cleared joy boy and Town cabd because.
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Post Post #3931 (isolation #569) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:52 am

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The order in which they kill someone matters if your ability is one that is activated and lasts a night unless it’s permanently activated once used.

Likewise you lurked throughout most of last day phase and weren’t solving.

I’ll concede that you clearly forgot I had a targeting ability/investigate.

Or pretended to forget but eh.
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Post Post #3932 (isolation #570) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:53 am

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Likewise, likewise the odds of town targeting you before scum visited you is very high.
We’re back to a math fail.
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Post Post #3933 (isolation #571) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:57 am

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*ahem* not that I have any room to speak, since apparently, I should’ve held on to my ability. Irregardless of how it turned out.

So,
Sincerely,
I’m sorry for being an idiot.
I was born this way.
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Post Post #3938 (isolation #572) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:11 am

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You pick Cabd.
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Post Post #3940 (isolation #573) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:27 am

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Cabd should pick. But yes. They would be unable to do a night kill during the upcoming night but would be able to the following night and would not be eliminatable during the following day.
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Post Post #3941 (isolation #574) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:30 am

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Sigh.
N4: out of game.
D4: out of game.
N5: in game and vulnerable.
D5: in game and vulnerable.
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Post Post #3958 (isolation #575) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:32 am

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No, it was a strongman modifier no kill attached.
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #576) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:33 am

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Would’ve been super useful if had held on to the check.

I was slightly worried I’d die and waste the chance though.
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Post Post #3961 (isolation #577) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:35 am

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K. I’ll send that in.
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Post Post #3962 (isolation #578) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:38 am

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Submitted.
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Post Post #3963 (isolation #579) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 am

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VOTE: L_G
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Post Post #3991 (isolation #580) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:29 am

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In post 3989, light_ganski wrote: L-1? (If I've miscounted and that was the hammer RIP)

Claiming N4 archaeologist
You belong in a museum!
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Post Post #3995 (isolation #581) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:32 am

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I believe you, that’s a neat role and the timing makes sense.

But Titus died visiting you.
So like.
Kind of need that to be explained before we have a conversation of any kind.
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Post Post #4389 (isolation #582) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:19 pm

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Nope, not cleared.
As mentioned, my ability stops working after the second night.
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Post Post #4391 (isolation #583) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:22 pm

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Yeah, I did really want to dig down and get everybody's actions around the Ircher/Laplacian thing.
Someone had to have fucked up. somewhere in that mess.
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Post Post #4394 (isolation #584) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:24 pm

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I wanna make sure I understood this. But Ircher did verify that they sent a gift to another player and they did receive receive that gift during the lightning rod day right?
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Post Post #4400 (isolation #585) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:26 pm

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In post 4393, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4384, Cabd wrote: So uh, a kill occured. If we take bell at face value, the lovers are cleared then?
wut no

our safehouse was done at the end of yesterday
Pft, and here you were asking me to pretend I changed my mind on you in the PT.
But I already answered it above so it doesn't count and would easily have been checked, so nope.
No town points for either of us.
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Post Post #4404 (isolation #586) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:27 pm

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In post 4397, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: I am ready to go to Meowhalla with Pooky.
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Post Post #4408 (isolation #587) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:27 pm

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Uh, but actually I'm not because I'm a tree stump so like,
be right back I guess.

Also, yeah kinda wanna dig deep into other people since I missed a whole day phase.
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Post Post #4412 (isolation #588) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:29 pm

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I wanted to ask about that.
If Pooky got the other guy/girl to vote me, would he still lose?
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Post Post #4413 (isolation #589) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:30 pm

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In post 4411, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: if only I had more than one life to give for this town
Should've been an immortal tree stump.
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Post Post #4417 (isolation #590) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:32 pm

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Yeah, but I wanna know you know.
Like, I'm going to advocate we die right here and now. Probably.
Because clearly we're too tunneled on each other to live.

I am anyway. I need a refresh/reset. My role is so cool.
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Post Post #4423 (isolation #591) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:33 pm

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I'll outright admit that the happy vibes at the end of the last day phase made me wonder if Laplace/Drew/Ircher even had scum in it.

Ircher, I stayed on because of the unexplained visit that went through and Ircher not engaging with that bothered me.

A lot.
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Post Post #4430 (isolation #592) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:36 pm

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Pooky mentioned in the PT or was it Dunnstral,
I forgot which,

that Lemon had information on Maria's role. I was going to use that to double verify what their claims were around their ability, albeit, I don't really think Maria lied about the substance of the lightning rod ability.

And yeah, they should claim I guess.
I won't be terribly surprised if they just say they lied about being able to self clear tho.
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Post Post #4432 (isolation #593) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:37 pm

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Oh no, I do die.
I just get to post afterward without a vote.
didn't you read my abilities, recently?
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Post Post #4435 (isolation #594) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:40 pm

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Aren't they just going to shoot maria.
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Post Post #4437 (isolation #595) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:41 pm

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Yeah, but like, Pooky gets to live another day and I don't approve of any plan that involves that.
Even though he's apparently doomed.
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Post Post #4441 (isolation #596) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:43 pm

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I dunno even what to say to that.
I have like, a lot of posts.
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Post Post #4444 (isolation #597) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:44 pm

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You'd think our entire neighborhood would have blown up with all the sniping.
But yeah it was pretty chill in there.
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Post Post #4445 (isolation #598) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:44 pm

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In post 4443, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4441, Bell wrote: I dunno even what to say to that.
I have like, a lot of posts.
I thought you figured out how to post as mafia
Yeah, but there is like, content in a lot of them.
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Post Post #4449 (isolation #599) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:47 pm

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I mean, what's there to say, I'm super defensive, I break down from all the pressure and then I try to solve.
It's a vicious cycle is what it is.

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