Shell Game (Day 7)

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

I'll start;

Strong Townreads: Firebringer
Townreads: Save the Dragons, Shello and Goodbye, PenguinPower
Townleans:
Null: Everyone Else
Scumleans:
Scum: Firebagel, Morph The Cat, Sunflower
Strong Scumread:

[PenguinPower]

yes, you may townread me to solve your problem.

yw

[PenguinPower]

curious how a bad boy insists that he’s good…

In slang usage, the adjective “bad” means “good,”

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2015/12/bad.html

you may now townread me.

yw

[PenguinPower]

-Herr Mitt

this is very good

[PenguinPower]

lukewarm being lukewarm?

amazing.

[PenguinPower]

fair tbh

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: firebagel

[PenguinPower]

pooky could be scum but lets let him form his animal police force. It might make a good movie

pooky is always town d1

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[PenguinPower]

pooky could be scum but lets let him form his animal police force. It might make a good movie

pooky is always town d1

(i was not promised a promotion to post this message)

where u promised fish though

no comment

[PenguinPower]

can someone add me to the hoods

same, but only the one with warmpup. i don't want to be in the other one.

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19 seconds...dammit

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oh my...so many pages

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VOTE: klick

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Hey, Bingle. You town?

Bingle is town.

[PenguinPower]

Pooky and warmpup

Also you.

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Luke

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Just as he wants you to believe....he's a wilily one.

[PenguinPower]

What am I missing on Pooky and Firebringer?

They are upstanding animal police detectives who would never do this town wrong.

[PenguinPower]

What am I missing on Pooky and Firebringer?

They are upstanding animal police detectives who would never do this town wrong.

Some real content would be quite nice about now.

how about no

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: std

[PenguinPower]

oh yay - skitteR's here

[PenguinPower]

I also agree with whomever said that penguin power not materially engaging with the game is scummy

I'm used to him being more in the background as town and building wagons, but this feels like an imitation of that

most games aren't 1000 pages per day

[PenguinPower]

I don't think it's scummy for penguin power to not be materially engaging in a game that's spawned 70+ pages in 3 days

oh hey, dann is white knighting. i'll take it.

thanks, dann.

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VOTE: firebringer

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what have i done....

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u got a fancy pagetop

i did. ty mr. mayor.

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Not as solid as Penguins case on Bingle.

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I just really want my Pooky foam finger

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imma be mad if pooky and firebringer are scum without me

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we all want warmpup to be mayor

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a what now...

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so high he forgot he was told that by a buddy?

poor cakez

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oh fuck me

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8 seconds

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Sure, which is why I asked for the punnet square. But literally nothing about what you’re saying is a link, it’s just a “Bingle is being weird, I think he’s scum”

the point of the link is to reaction test you

Okay. Can I get the punnet square now?

here go

[PenguinPower]

Pengy, don’t be mad at me for saying I’d shoot you. It’s true, but don’t be mad at me.

I could never be mad at you, jinglebingle.

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how about gypyx

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yay

VOTE: gypyx

[PenguinPower]

why do you want gypyx

counterpoint: why

not

gypyx?

[PenguinPower]

real answer - i get bad gut pings

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i don't think warmpup felt any pressure

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i want to join cakez because wagons but i also want gypyx and she's just so close to being a competing wagon

hold the line penguin...hold the line.

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VOTE: cakez

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i want to join cakez because wagons

but i also want gypyx and she's just so close to being a competing wagon

hold the line penguin...hold the line.

Almost as if the wagon was being abandoned. I think you are quite aware of how I prefer to play day 1.

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gypyx

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IM SITTING DOWN AT MY COMPUTER AND IM NOT LEAVING UNTIL IM DONE WITH CATCH-UP

have you ever heard of the fable "the boy who cried wolf?"

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For those of us that aren’t can you provide context Mr. Powers?

i like wagons

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i like competing wagons even more

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IM SITTING DOWN AT MY COMPUTER AND IM NOT LEAVING UNTIL IM DONE WITH CATCH-UP

have you ever heard of the fable "the boy who cried wolf?"

Actually yeah i have

not seeing ur point tho

sircakez, you've changed.

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but basically, if you say something as if it's true and it's not, people won't believe you when you say you actually do

as cakez is doing with repeatedly saying he is going to catch up

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VOTE: brian

cakez is town

[PenguinPower]

Loving this change to the thread lately. Yall are making it look lovely in here i love all the decorations

i also love dann tunneling me!! Soon it will reduce me to saying rude things and trolling are yall hyped?? I already had to hold back the troll within me (:

If I may request… stop using these spoiler tags. There are better tags and I can’t read these on mobile.

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Guess pooky is actually town. Good to know.

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See? All hail PP, he is new Katniss.

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FINISH HIM

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Oh look the penguin ruined everything, as penguins are known to do from time to time.

<---Married to a penguin.

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oop - this start up again.

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no matter else what happens, i am happy that pooky and i finally ended up as the same alignment

i think it's been at least a year

[PenguinPower]

Insomnia. Keep up with the lore, it was revealed on page number one hundred sixty six.

viewtopic.php?p=14178035#p14178035

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VOTE: experience

[PenguinPower]

I could vote gypyx as well

i would prefer this tbh

[PenguinPower]

I could vote gypyx as well

i would prefer this tbh

Do you wanna do it rn or let experience marinate in the pressure?

wagons on experience rn and i'm okay with that.

i can see both as scum.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: gypyx

[PenguinPower]

this game just ended an hour ago, I think gypyx is kind of just outed mafia

100% agree and the reason why I’ve thought so for awhile.

[PenguinPower]

it's less about that exact pool and more about the point dann is making, in that i think most of the scum is in the people who have less influence
i'd add like penguin and firebagel to that pool as well

tbf if skitter still doesn’t townread me your slot can be in the scumpool.

[PenguinPower]

oh - cus you are one of the few players on this site who can correctly read me when you are town.

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I am quite enigmatic I admit.

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Sounds like a cop out to me

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fair enough.

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pew pew kaboom is my new favorite. thanks, ceph.

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PenguinCount v1.0.1

Gypyx 5 (wolfbae, Hermit, Penguin, marci, Firebagel)
experience 5 (Firebringer, Dannflor, CSF, STD, Spiffeh)
Sunflower 4 (Dunnstral, Shello, Gypyx, SirCakez)

Not voting (Oblivion, experience, Sunflower, Bingle, morph, Lukewarm)

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to pew pew kaboom.

Deadline: (expired on 2024-05-16 20:12:00)

[PenguinPower]

i would vote experience before i vote sunflower

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VOTE: experience

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me

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me

Who’s scum

gypyx and experience and someone else.

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Oblivion has two games. Not enough to use tbh given the presence in the scum game and fadeaway in the town game.

In townread it in the scum game tbh.

[PenguinPower]

Oblivion has two games. Not enough to use tbh given the presence in the scum game and fadeaway in the town game.

In townread it in the scum game tbh.

So you dont think it means anything for its alignment here? Do you lean anyway based on the posts it made so far?

I have no clue as to its alignment at this point.

[PenguinPower]

morph is town. yeah.

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idk this seems an abnormal opinion for you warmpup.

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the problem with this game is most of what i read is people arguing for why someone is not scum rather than what makes a person scum. I am not doing anything to alleviate that problem myself.

Then when I do see cases of scum casing its not very appealing.

Wasn’t talking about this tbf.

[PenguinPower]

thats not how i would describe klick play here. But to each their own. U got the role pm not me

Agree with this. But I town read peta…which probably means I’m wrong but eh.

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Well - I chose incorrectly. Sorry morph.

[PenguinPower]

I assumed crab was going to be shot last night instead. I was debating between the two.

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Why are you outing that that would matter?

Cause I want to?

[PenguinPower]

I assumed crab was going to be shot last night instead. I was debating between the two.

Is this at all related to below? This is important.

Also anyone with non-cop results should claim them

You know who you are

It is not.

[PenguinPower]

I kinda want to townbin peta i think

as you should

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I would perosnally love a gypyx wagon

[PenguinPower]

I would perosnally love a gypyx wagon

Btw penguin when are you gonna start playing the game

approximately 18 days ago

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I don't think penguin is in a hood with anyone, luke.

i am not

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VOTE: gypyx

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How does hiding the result help town?

Gonna echo this.

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VOTE: sunflower

[PenguinPower]

Thought I had told mod I’m v/la through today as I’m adjusting to traveling to Japan + limited internet access until Monday.

Posting. I’ll read up tomorrow.

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In truth I’ve only read like the previous 15ish pages and that’s all I’m likely to do. wolfbae is almost certainly never scum here and I think he’s approach pocketing me differently if he were.

VOTE: marci

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Great! Caught a cold on the plane over here, but it’s not too bad. We’ve walked about 7 miles a days since we got here on Friday (my house is near the outskirts of Ikebukuro in Akatsuka so lots of walking/trains to get to fun places.

I’ve missed the food more than anything.

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ok, and?

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ok, and?

You jumped from A to C without ever arriving at B.

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VOTE: std

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VOTE: std

Hey, I’ve noticed you’ve been pretty much following the crowd this Day phase. Do you find yourself convinced by the arguments being presented for these people or are you scumreading them independently of others?

I think you’ll notice I’m pretty much following wolfbae specifically.

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idk that's why i'm asking you, firebringer is perhaps one of the biggest enigmas that exist on this website

Excuse me?

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warmpup probably town though.

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I will happily vote gypyx but not until I know my heart won’t be broken again.

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VOTE: dragoneater

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The claim isn’t inherently in conflict with my role.

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Not surprising since gypyx isn’t town.

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Very appealing JD. May I be considered for a lateral transfer?

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It was convincing!

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i would say i got a bridge i want to sell u but ill instead say

u interested in buying some fish?

I think I’m more interested in the bridge made of fish.

(Also I know you think the masons are scum, but I don’t rn).

[PenguinPower]

We are sold out on the fish bridges

Shame. You have my number so please let me know when they are back in stock.

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If DE isn’t going to claim can we just yeet? Thx.

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- Penguin

You're just outed sorry

lol - this level confidence just to be wrong is very amusing. Ty.

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Yeah i think luka needs to read more some of those takes are INSANE

I feel validated by everything that Luka is saying so far

You feel validated by someone who has admittedly read 5 pages of the game and some of their neighborhood to the point that they didn’t even know DE and lukewarm were the same slot and apparently thought morph was still alive?

Makes sense.

[PenguinPower]

Oh boy…i must be tired missing that one.

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What I really think vs what I want people to think I think?

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Meh…why no p-edit

[PenguinPower]

What I really think vs what I want people to think I think?

if you wanna put it like that sure

although i have been very open about what i'm saying not reflecting my personal theories

I don’t really…your post that should have shown in my preview is more accurate.

tbf i get it and part of my disconnection this game is the strong voices coupled with the neighborhoods that they happen to be in (part of it is also the massive timezone change).

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Disappointing.

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Also 8584 is calling you mafia

i think i can read yeah

So validated by everything

[PenguinPower]

I mean - i think you’re scum so…yes…yes i do

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Good morning.

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Good! It’s my last day today. Traveling back tomorrow.

Are all the fish. Very content.

Seems I have a lot to catch up from while I was sleeping. Coffee time.

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I do not have a cop result.

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VOTE: marci

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ive never really felt like i belong in a generation

im an 03 baby

so i grew up with similar things like shows and stuff to some of the younger millennials

but then also i grew up in the age where social media became hella popular so its like

I graduated high school in ‘03…

I’ll see myself out now.
WHERE DO I FIT IN

[PenguinPower]

ive never really felt like i belong in a generation

im an 03 baby

so i grew up with similar things like shows and stuff to some of the younger millennials

but then also i grew up in the age where social media became hella popular so its like

I graduated high school in ‘03…

I’ll see myself out now.
WHERE DO I FIT IN

I graduated high school in ‘03.

I’ll see myself out now.

[PenguinPower]

I think gypyx could be partnered with marci btw

Considering gypyx is scum, I agree!

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btw marci this post is when i knew u were scum for sure

Why did I fall for this after all this time

I was thinking to myself you were hedging the read and needed to see what you were goign to say

I’ve fallen for it every time so you aren’t alone.

[PenguinPower]

witcher 3 music was dynamite

Yep…in my top 3 for video game music.

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Sorry gypyx, but that means scum targeted STD.

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Why would Gypyx hide behind me

What I said doesn’t require her to have. I was about the say I was wrong on my level of certainty with warmup flipping town due to my going on 30 hours of no sleep. And now that I think about it, I guess gypyx could have died via hiding behind scum and not me.

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Actually if warmpup did as he said he was going to I guess that would necessitate gypyx hiding behind scum.

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I’m tired and my brain isn’t working

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Oh, she was macho, nevermind.

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It’s quite likely scum targeted STD last night then.

[PenguinPower]

Bus driver. Fast Bus driver to be specific.

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I’ve been on crab and gypyx pretty much every night except last night. I didn’t act n1.

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Oh I forgot exactly what nonconsecutive was and didn't read the role thoroughly

Still bet Oblivion is a clear though

Penguin are you claiming you bus drove Dragons and Gypyx?

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

If my role conflicts with another role mine gets processed first. I assume it was to address my interactions with the scum bus driver if we chose the same target.

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I have a cop shot from n4 and was also given a role blocker shot on n4.

Might as well claim everything at this point.

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Role blocker shot?

Yes. I received an item the same night as the N4 cop shot that says 1-shot Roleblocker.

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I’ve claimed everything I have/have done.

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What did the PM notifying you that you lost your item say “in general?”

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kinda figured someone was going to say that

so low effort and uninspired

[PenguinPower]

i was going to bus drive onto you last night but i was tunnelled on gypyx and wanted to resolve

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i guess that probably means oblivion is scum too but this feels a lot different then its last scum game with me

could be attributed to it being a large game

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VOTE: spiffeh

Yeah, I’m fine with this

[PenguinPower]

just reiterating that i've claimed everything

[PenguinPower]

i'm willing to compromise on penguin

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tbf it’s probably best if I don’t endgame given my recent track record so I don’t actually care that much. It at least confirms what I’ve said.

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Why is this game so dead now

Because we’re waiting for claims to finish?

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Why is the target selection abysmal?

Why is penguin town

lol - Dunnstral is physically incapable of town reading me in any game ever…even if I was mod confirmed IC.

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I believe bagel did and came away with oblivion being targeted and maybe her.

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Meh

VOTE: dunnstral

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Pooky being ascetic heavily implies the existence of a watcher or another protection role on the Town side. Being able to generate watches and rolestops, I am both of these.

I never claim this as scum. Not only am I not creative enough to come up with something this complicated, but if I were scum with this role I would likely pretend to be a VT and idle every night to not risk giving town players abilities.

Given the above, scum reads on me will no longer be tolerated.

You’re just scum aren’t you?

If you were scum, you would wait to get everyone’s claims to modify your true role and your night actions.

Someone out there sent me a roleblocker shot.

[PenguinPower]

scum reads on me will no longer be tolerated

this just makes me want to scum read you for no other reason than to be contrarian to someone who thinks they can dictate what other people think

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and the way you're reaching to paint me as scummy, despite hopping on the wagon of the most likely elimination outside of you, feels like Dunn is the mis-elimination you're aiming to push through while discrediting my read on you by calling me scum.

I don't have a good reason to scum read you after your claim which is why I said "meh." I think Dunnstral is most likely to be given his claimed role and the fact that a Roleblocker-distributor exists.

I just want you to be scum because I hate your arrogance.

[PenguinPower]

Thanks.

I think your reasons for scumreading me are weak and incorrect.

- Yes, I've been low activity this game. I've already said why...I don't do great with loud, active voices in the beginning of larges (especially Day 1), and then I went to Japan for two weeks. Guess what...I'm more active now that I'm back and the game is smaller!
- You tunneling into me being a backup busdriver instead of the counter role too (especially given my fast modifer) in a Shell game where the theme is moving things around is weak (as I previously said).
- In what world do I busdrive STD to gypyx as scum? Or nk gpypx as scum if don't believe I busdrove the shot there?
- marci not voting for my wagon over a similar competing wagon on wolfbae who is a much stronger player and voice in this thread somehow makes me scum?

Sorry - I just think you're tunneled on me this game and are finding reasons for me to be scum instead of the other way around.

[PenguinPower]

why would scum kill a miller over a cop-vendor that is potentially reliable?

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if there's scum in warmpup's hood they would know he wasn't going to...at least per Dunn

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also none of this explains the 3rd kill

you already posited marci reaching parity in the dethy...and i'm not sure what other kind of prize would benefit scum. with the amount of protection/semi-protection in the game an extra kill makes sense.

i want to think i did something right, so let me just have this.

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even if scum had 3 kills, why did CSF die?

well yeah - i have no good answer for that

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that makes sense since i bus drove you and gypyx n4

[PenguinPower]

because i didn't have any good reads, there were a lot of people (and I assume a lot of power) in the game, and I didn't want to mess up anything given the cop shots and what not.

that's also why i sat on gypyx and crab every night until last night because i thought you were pretty likely the target given the 1v1 and I didn't trust firebringer to actually protect you (which turned out to be correct).

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like, the bus driver role has the ability to screw town over so I tried to just protect the mason claim and eliminate my scum read this whole game.

[PenguinPower]

unless penguin is a mafia backup busdriver

yes, i am a mafia backup busdriver who made up the modifier "fast" which does not exist on the wiki

[PenguinPower]

to be fair, it's no snarglefargle but...

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you're right because ever role in this game is on the wiki my b

oh wait

it was more a dig at me not being able to make it up

that aside, if i was a scum bus driver i would have actually used my role instead of camping on a claimed mason

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why do i want you to have a plausible reason to be alive as scum?

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Like, I specifically asked him yesterday if he had a result

I received the shot N4. I decided to attempt to protect STD last night instead of using it. I still have it + a roleblocking shot.

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HC confirmed receiving a cop shot N4 so unless wolfbae sent it directly to them, I’m not lying.

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HC confirmed receiving a cop shot N4 so unless wolfbae sent it directly to them, I’m not lying.

Gypyx was on wolfbaes list

Wolfbae should have known HC claimed compulsive

Ergo gypyx probably was the target and HC recieved the shot

So why would Luka's fruit, with HC as the target, not go to Gypyx

I know that and that’s kinda my point.

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wait so is there a contradiction between the fruit masons and penguin

Luka claims to have vended fruit to HC N4. HC claims to have received fruit N4.

HC also claims to have received a cop shot N4. HC was not in the cop shot pool, though gypyx was. I claim to have bus driven gypyx and HC N4.

There seems to be a contradiction unless gypyx also received fruit N4.

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To be clear: I claimed to have bus driven gypyx and HC before HC claimed receiving a cop shot.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah we have been getting fruits the past few nights

This isn’t possible unless gypyx was a vend target N2, N3, and N4.

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Correction - N3 and N4.

I targeted sunflower/HC N2.

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I don’t recall getting mad

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Rand to gypyx n5

right?

im not crazy?

This means I would have got it

Correct.

[PenguinPower]

I also thought bus driver takes from a and sends to b, not flips them

But I could just be more washed than I thought

That’s a redirector.

[PenguinPower]

The last 4 pages seem to be useless hogwash not worth my time backreading

You seem to be just a generally unpleasant person.

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Not sure why you said you received fruits the “past few nights” then.

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I also thought bus driver takes from a and sends to b, not flips them

But I could just be more washed than I thought

That’s a redirector.

I thought redirector targets a and changes target from b to c

Driver targets a and c’s action resolves on b was how I understood bus driver

That’s….a lightning rod?

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Not sure why you said you received fruits the “past few nights” then.

That’s what “misread” means

Right…I’m not sure how you misread multiple separate pms including some that shouldn’t exist.

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Also dumb question but I’m confused why hider had the weak modifier I assumed that was implied with the role traditionally, and the wiki kinda echoes that but may just be a ceph choice

What?

Hider only dies if they hide behind the nk. Weak adds in dying if they target scum.

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Yeah - you’re showing your age.

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You seem to be just a generally unpleasant person.

Thank u for insulting me for 0 reason

Thank you for entering the game and making me want to pretend your slot doesn’t exist because of how you have spoken about me.

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Thank you for entering the game and making me want to pretend your slot doesn’t exist because of how you have spoken about me.

In that I think you're scum? Idgi

For reasons that include “you’re outed” the “wolfiest wolf to exist” and “if you’re town, your gameplay is horrendous.”

So…yeah. Solid evidence and a nice insult to my town play.

Appreciated.