Night Clan - [Game Over]

[Kagami]

But I like AD whereas I'm completely indifferent about all the ronpas who aren't NS. :<

[ActionDan]

When I don't feel like super sleepy I'll have to read and evaluate the exchange between Nos/Oma/kyoto. Whatever that was seemed to spawn from out of the blue.

If I had to award anything, it would be slight town points to Nos and slight scum points to Oma, only because that exchange was perpetrated by Oma on a whim and I find it overzealous to vote Nos based on matching his antics.

Don't really think you're scum but I'm not gonna kick and scream over your lynch.

The only thing I was asking you to do and am asking now is to find a scum read and vote it. It can't be that hard. That's hardly kicking and screaming, that's just playing the game.

There's a lot wrong with 854. I've gone down the rabbit hole with Hinduragi and I've given my opinions on plenty of others too; if people don't read, analyze, and make conclusions from it that's on them not me. What does "His general Obscurity points more to scummy than towny." Does that have to do with my reads not being attuned to the general consensus? God forbid I have independent thoughts. Again with everyone's constant refrain of "I like the wagon composition". It truly makes me sick. The only difference here is that Boring provided reasons to go with it but to me it'd be better if those didn't exist at all.

Yuki is scum lurkaderping

I know I voted for the exact same reason boring did but I fee like boring did it because no one questioned mine

Allow me to continue to question yours again and again. You have a scum read that you aren't voting over a null read. Consolidation be damned.

Out of the 5 people currently voting me only

one

has an actual scum read on me. I don't really know where Cabd stands but I know it stands to reason he isn't reading closely since he voted me (in which despite claiming to proxy his vote to LLD hers wasn't yet on me).

At least for the Rompa Anime Avatars, think what you will, but they are at the least voting their stated scum reads. They are playing mafia. What I see above isn't it, and I can tell you it's frustrating to no end.

And to respond to Joey in particular you have no right to quote my wall and tell me I'm delusional about trying to push my scum read and not read it when, even were the fact that I understood that survival was on the line explicitly in that very post, pushing scum reads is correct play.

As well as the opportunity cost remark, like wow. You literally value anything I'd have to say less than a lurker lurking when you don't even think I'll flip scum.

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Kagami I don't know if Hindu would champion it. It's odd yes, I've thought that, that surely there'd be a better scum strategy and both of them would be start enough to know what that might be and how risky this one would be. I've tended to rationalize that that's WIFOM and try not to let that doubt cloud my judgement. I've been starting to waver a bit in regards to my scum read on LLD. Among other things I'm surprised she hasn't voted me yet. And I'm really spooked by the phenomenon that's occurring above.

So I'm going to vote Boring and see where the chips fall. I honestly could vote Cabd as well, since feels and reals together inform me that's where I'd feel a scum hides.

VOTE: Boring

For the record Hindu what are your thoughts on Kaito/Boring/Kokichi at the moment?

[Kagami]

VOTE: boring

[ActionDan]

If there's reason to be concerned about AD, it's that he's leaning heavily on arguments that are objectively correct.

You'd be surprised what I can do when I actually bother to read a thread for understanding and detail. I know I have a habit of doing jack-all usually though, so I'll forgive you for that

[Vaxkiller]

0 days, 22 hours, 8 minutes

Ugh.

VOTE: Boring

[Kokichi Oma]

I wouldn't be opposed to a boring lynch, maybe. Don't like when they flipped from me to action on poor reasoning.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I wouldn't be opposed to a boring lynch, maybe. Don't like when they flipped from me to action on poor reasoning.

Then put your vote where your mouth is.
VOTE: boring

[FakeGod]

Cephrir replaces Yuki Takeya.

I'll extend the deadline by 1 day.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.8

Cephrir [1] - Kyoko Kirigiri
Kokichi Oma [1] - Nosferatu
Kyoko Kirigiri [1] - Lady Lambdadelta
Nosferatu [1] - Kokichi Oma
ActionDan [6] - Joey_, Hinduragi, Cabd, Kotoko Utsugi, Maki Harukawa, boring
boring [4] - ActionDan, Kagami, Vaxkiller, Kaede Akamatsu

Not Voting [3]

- Cephrir, SnarkySnowman, Kaito Momota

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-01-18 12:00:00)

[Kagami]

yay for ceph~

[SnarkySnowman]

I return finally. Took me a while to get back and able to pay attention to fun things. Reading up now.

[Joey_]

When I don't feel like super sleepy I'll have to read and evaluate the exchange between Nos/Oma/kyoto. Whatever that was seemed to spawn from out of the blue.

If I had to award anything, it would be slight town points to Nos and slight scum points to Oma, only because that exchange was perpetrated by Oma on a whim and I find it overzealous to vote Nos based on matching his antics.

Don't really think you're scum but I'm not gonna kick and scream over your lynch.

The only thing I was asking you to do and am asking now is to find a scum read and vote it. It can't be that hard. That's hardly kicking and screaming, that's just playing the game.

There's a lot wrong with 854. I've gone down the rabbit hole with Hinduragi and I've given my opinions on plenty of others too; if people don't read, analyze, and make conclusions from it that's on them not me. What does "His general Obscurity points more to scummy than towny." Does that have to do with my reads not being attuned to the general consensus? God forbid I have independent thoughts. Again with everyone's constant refrain of "I like the wagon composition". It truly makes me sick. The only difference here is that Boring provided reasons to go with it but to me it'd be better if those didn't exist at all.

Yuki is scum lurkaderping

I know I voted for the exact same reason boring did but I fee like boring did it because no one questioned mine

Allow me to continue to question yours again and again. You have a scum read that you aren't voting over a null read. Consolidation be damned.

Out of the 5 people currently voting me only

one

has an actual scum read on me. I don't really know where Cabd stands but I know it stands to reason he isn't reading closely since he voted me (in which despite claiming to proxy his vote to LLD hers wasn't yet on me).

At least for the Rompa Anime Avatars, think what you will, but they are at the least voting their stated scum reads. They are playing mafia. What I see above isn't it, and I can tell you it's frustrating to no end.

And to respond to Joey in particular you have no right to quote my wall and tell me I'm delusional about trying to push my scum read and not read it when, even were the fact that I understood that survival was on the line explicitly in that very post, pushing scum reads is correct play.

As well as the opportunity cost remark, like wow. You literally value anything I'd have to say less than a lurker lurking when you don't even think I'll flip scum.

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Kagami I don't know if Hindu would champion it. It's odd yes, I've thought that, that surely there'd be a better scum strategy and both of them would be start enough to know what that might be and how risky this one would be. I've tended to rationalize that that's WIFOM and try not to let that doubt cloud my judgement. I've been starting to waver a bit in regards to my scum read on LLD. Among other things I'm surprised she hasn't voted me yet. And I'm really spooked by the phenomenon that's occurring above.

So I'm going to vote Boring and see where the chips fall. I honestly could vote Cabd as well, since feels and reals together inform me that's where I'd feel a scum hides.

VOTE: Boring

For the record Hindu what are your thoughts on Kaito/Boring/Kokichi at the moment?

Thank you for AT LEAST trying to poke outside ash/lldd

[Joey_]

When I don't feel like super sleepy I'll have to read and evaluate the exchange between Nos/Oma/kyoto. Whatever that was seemed to spawn from out of the blue.

If I had to award anything, it would be slight town points to Nos and slight scum points to Oma, only because that exchange was perpetrated by Oma on a whim and I find it overzealous to vote Nos based on matching his antics.

Don't really think you're scum but I'm not gonna kick and scream over your lynch.

The only thing I was asking you to do and am asking now is to find a scum read and vote it. It can't be that hard. That's hardly kicking and screaming, that's just playing the game.

There's a lot wrong with 854. I've gone down the rabbit hole with Hinduragi and I've given my opinions on plenty of others too; if people don't read, analyze, and make conclusions from it that's on them not me. What does "His general Obscurity points more to scummy than towny." Does that have to do with my reads not being attuned to the general consensus? God forbid I have independent thoughts. Again with everyone's constant refrain of "I like the wagon composition". It truly makes me sick. The only difference here is that Boring provided reasons to go with it but to me it'd be better if those didn't exist at all.

Yuki is scum lurkaderping

I know I voted for the exact same reason boring did but I fee like boring did it because no one questioned mine

Allow me to continue to question yours again and again. You have a scum read that you aren't voting over a null read. Consolidation be damned.

Out of the 5 people currently voting me only

one

has an actual scum read on me. I don't really know where Cabd stands but I know it stands to reason he isn't reading closely since he voted me (in which despite claiming to proxy his vote to LLD hers wasn't yet on me).

At least for the Rompa Anime Avatars, think what you will, but they are at the least voting their stated scum reads. They are playing mafia. What I see above isn't it, and I can tell you it's frustrating to no end.

And to respond to Joey in particular you have no right to quote my wall and tell me I'm delusional about trying to push my scum read and not read it when, even were the fact that I understood that survival was on the line explicitly in that very post, pushing scum reads is correct play.

As well as the opportunity cost remark, like wow. You literally value anything I'd have to say less than a lurker lurking when you don't even think I'll flip scum.

---

Kagami I don't know if Hindu would champion it. It's odd yes, I've thought that, that surely there'd be a better scum strategy and both of them would be start enough to know what that might be and how risky this one would be. I've tended to rationalize that that's WIFOM and try not to let that doubt cloud my judgement. I've been starting to waver a bit in regards to my scum read on LLD. Among other things I'm surprised she hasn't voted me yet. And I'm really spooked by the phenomenon that's occurring above.

So I'm going to vote Boring and see where the chips fall. I honestly could vote Cabd as well, since feels and reals together inform me that's where I'd feel a scum hides.

VOTE: Boring

For the record Hindu what are your thoughts on Kaito/Boring/Kokichi at the moment?

unronically thank you for at least trying to poke outside ash/lldd

[Joey_]

Nice double post

[Joey_]

And to respond to Joey in particular you have no right to quote my wall and tell me I'm delusional about trying to push my scum read and not read it when, even were the fact that I understood that survival was on the line explicitly in that very post, pushing scum reads is correct play.

If thats the case then you renounce the right to fucking of my vote to be of ever use to you, do you even get that? You can just make a case on obvious town as a healthy wagon CW to your own slot, it just makes me want to ignore you if anything

[Joey_]

renounce the right of my vote to be of ever use* anyway

[Joey_]

Okay since we have a deadline extension we can all chill out a bit and not hammer the boring/action dan wagons yet, i am unvoting so it doesnt get lynched by error or something in case double voters d1 and/or speed hammering

UNVOTE:

[Kagami]

Joey, our wonderful mod will be happy to dispel some of your fears if you ask him the right question.

I'm a little surprised you didn't do so far earlier given your concern.

[Joey_]

About the deadline extension?

[Kagami]

About doublevoters.

[Nosferatu]

I did a solid skim of the AD v Hindu walls.

I assumed that ActionDan's content would at least give us something to use after his flip (since he's looking to be today's lynch), but he doesn't say much of consequence, and he's really coming out of left field with his reads. If he flips town, I don't think his content will be very useful. If he flips scum, I don't see it helping us clear anyone (except maybe Hindu or LLD [though, not both, apparently?]). His general obscurity points more to scummy than towny. If he had started the walling and shading after being placed under pressure, I'd say it's obvious flailing. I just don't get why scum would do all that for no reason. It's not exactly pro-survival behavior.

I know we're running out of time, and I like the players on AD's wagon.

VOTE: ActionDan

that was a long paragraph of nothing followed by one post of dubious substance

feels like an overjustification

VOTE: boring

[Nosferatu]

^ 100% only noticed that slot because of the votes piling on btw

opportunism ftw

[Kotoko Utsugi]

Pumba are you town

[Joey_]

About doublevoters.

Well its only relevevant in the scenario where multiple people would change their vote the vot eon the same person, this scenario is particularily true on deadline thus my unvote rn

[Vaxkiller]

Pumba are you town

who dat?