DHSDSM beta: Game Over.

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:48 pm

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Players:
    1. Zaphod Beeblebrox
    5. Ojando Death the Hogfather
    8. Ortohoops
    10. PoketheAlpaca
    13. J-Scope
    14. Frog Dodging
Dead Players:
    2. Apples and Banana, SK
    6. Incamnito, Tracker
    9. sex w/ shafteds wife club, Latvian Mafia Godfather
    4. Trotsky, SK
    7. Yosariwen, Tracker
    12. Raging Wishbone, Doctor
    3. Zmd, Townie
    11. nyballosulgniirkps Pesco Light, Doctor

Action Phases:
    1. Pages 1 - 12
    2. = Day 3
    3. = Day 4
    4. = Day 5
    5. = Day 6
Sequence of Events:Rules:

1. You may not PM or IM or otherwise contact any player at anytime about this game, regardless of if you are living or dead. If your role makes an exception to this rule for you, strictly follow the new rule in your role PM. Exception: all forms of intra-hydra communication are allowed.

2. Once you are dead you can no longer post in-thread. Not even a "bah." post. Seriously.

3. Each player can vote for exactly one other player at a time during the day. Make your choice in bold letters like Vote: YYYYYY.

4. To change your vote, post Unvote in bold letters, or make a post voting for someone else in accordance with 3..

5. Cast votes and unvotes that do not follow the formatting guideline described in (3.) and (4.) will not be counted.

6. A lynch will occur when more than 50% of the players have their votes placed upon the same player, or have their votes placed upon Nolynch. After the 50%+1 threshold is reached, the lynch will occur regardless of any subsequent posting. Kills will be posted in thread between 6 and 30 hours after I receive them by PM. I will attempt to randomize the delay as much as possible to prevent date/time type confirmation of kill source.

7. Day and Twilight:
    "Day" is defined as the period between the moderator's "Start of Day __" post, and when either a vote is cast that places a player past the 50%+1 threshold necessary for a lynch. Role actions can only be submitted during periods of Day.
    "Twilight" is defined as the period between the time of the final valid vote necessary for a lynch or nolynch was cast and the following "Start of Day ___" post, or the "Twilight Expiration Trigger". Role actions are not valid if they are submitted during periods of twilight.
    Twilight Expiration Trigger: Twilight (the period following the last vote needed to lynch,) will last for a set period. In alpha that period will be 6 to 18 hours. In beta that period will be = to 2 * the number of living players in posts. No votes will be accepted during twilight, and action submissions will not be accepted during Twilight. Flavor Excuse: lynchings are messy. The town has to clean up the gallows, burn the body, ect.. and it takes some time to build up the level of aggression necessary to kill another of your neighbors who might very well be innocent. -- changed
8. Action phases:
    DHSDSM α: reset every 84 hours. DHSDSM β: reset on pages: 13, 24, 32, 37, 40, 43, and every third page after that (46, 49, 52...).
9. This game will not have deadlines. Ever.
-- changed.

10. When 72 hours have passed without an individual player posting, I will prod that player only if specifically requested to do so in-thread by any other player. -- canceled.

11. If a prodded player does not open the prodding PM within 72 hours he will be replaced. Until a replacement is found the player facing replacement can still vote and post. If I have to prod a player a third time during the game, I will replace him. If you expect to be unable to post in the game for 48+ hours, send me a PM. I do not check the vacation/leave thread. -- canceled

12. Hydras (two players sharing the same alt account) are encouraged as a way to reduce the chances of replacement. All hydras will be public (all players will know who makes up each hydra) and hydras are static. You can't replace half of your hydra. I will not deal with hydra drama. If you PM me about drama within your hydra (not getting along, she changed the password, whatever), I'll just replace that hydra. Claiming to be experiencing hydra drama within the game thread is allowed... but if you use your non-hydra account to do so you will be replaced. Replacing out = loss. Replacing out for tactical reasons = ban from my future games.

13. Special rule for DHSDSM β: Spam is not allowed.
    The second time you post more than three times in a row you will be modkilled. You will not be warned. Six posts in a row = modkill. Hydras need to be extra careful of this rule. Posts by alt account will count towards the mod-kill.
    Making more than 15 posts within an hour will also result in a modkill
-- canceled.

14. If you have the ability to edit posts, don't do it in this thread.

15. If you have any questions please ask me via PM or in-thread as they occur to you. I will be as fair and helpful as I can.

16. Every moderator will make mistakes, and I am no exception. Please be patient, understanding, and forgiving towards me.

17. I support free speech. Quote anything you like (except for ongoing games!) whenever you like. All forms of cryptography that do not require software (or more than 1 hour for me to work with just pen and paper) for encryption or decryption are acceptable as well. Do not PM or otherwise contact players outside the thread with game related information unless you are explicitly permitted.

18.Talking about ongoing games is against Mafiascum.net rules. See mith's post at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6470 for the complete set of forum rules.
    Exceptions: you may

      *cite when (date, time) a player has posted elsewhere on this site
      *cite information posted by a moderator in another game (including alignment if it is revealed by the mod)
    You shall not otherwise reference another game.
    If you write a post that has a chance of breaking this site-wide rule, PM it to me before you post it. I will tell you if it would get you modkilled or not.

19. The game ends when all living players are members of the same faction. If the game never ends then there will never be a "winner".

20. Breaking a rule = death for a given value of death. I determine that value. A modkill will not end the day.



Possible Roles
All roles that appear in the game are from this list. Not every role in this list is used in the game. This setup will include 1 Mafia Group of 3 players, AND at least 1 Compulsive Vig OR 1 Sk.


Compulsive VigYou are a Vigilante. You are frustrated with the ineffective procedures of the town, really frustrated. Once every action phase you may PM me the name of one player, and you will take out your frustrations by killing that player. If you do not send me the name of a player by an action phase, you will immediately kill a random player (you may be that random player) instead, and that random kill will be identified as a random kill in the victim's death scene. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

CopYou are a Cop. By breaking police procedures and violating a person’s right to privacy, you can tell the difference between scum and town. Once every action phase you may PM me the name of one player and I will tell you (via PM and within 18 hours) if that player is innocent or guilty of being scum. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. I will deliver your investigation results by sending you a PM containing the quoted text of your action PM along with either "innocent" or "guilty" or (if your action is blocked) "no result".

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.


DoctorYou are a Doctor, dedicated to saving lives. Once every action phase you can PM me the name of one player, and that player will be protected from one kill for the next action phase. You can PM your first target before the game begins. You can not protect yourself. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.


Mafia DoctorYou are a Doctor, dedicated to saving lives. Once every action phase you can PM me the name of one player, and that player will be protected from one kill for the next action phase. You can PM your first target before the game begins. You can not protect yourself. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You are also a member of the _____ Mafia with _____. Due to the Oath of Hippocrates, you are not allowed to perform your Mafia’s kill.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.


Mafia GodfatherYou are the mighty Godfather of the _____ Mafia. ________ are also members of your mafia. Because you are so crafty, you are immune to Cop investigations.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

Once every action phase a single member of your mafia can PM me the name of a player to kill, and which member of your mafia is committing your kill. If I receive more than one PM for the kill during an action phase from your mafia, only the first one sent will count. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.


Mafia GoonYou are a Goon in the _____ Mafia. ________ are also members of your mafia.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

Once every action phase a single member of your mafia can PM me the name of a player to kill, and which member of your mafia is committing your kill. If I receive more than one PM for the kill during an action phase from your mafia, only the first one sent will count. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.

Mafia RoleblockerYou are a Roleblocker in the _____ Mafia. ________ are also members of your mafia.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

Once every action phase a single member of your mafia can PM me the name of a player to kill, and which member of your mafia is committing your kill. If I receive more than one PM for the kill during an action phase from your mafia, only the first one sent will count. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens.

As an additional ability, once every action phase you may PM me the name of a player. That player’s action will not occur during the next action phase. If I do not receive a PM before end of an action phase you will not block any player. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You may perform both your mafia's kill as well as roleblock in the same action phase.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.

RoleblockerYou are a Roleblocker.

Once every action phase you may PM me the name of a player. That player’s action will not occur during the next action phase. If I do not receive a PM before end of a day you will not block any player. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

Serial KillerYou are an evil and calculating Serial Killer. Because you are so crafty, you are immune to kills other than your own.

Once every action phase you may PM me the name of one player, and you will take out your frustrations by killing that player. If you do not send me the name of a player by the end of an action phase, you will kill a random player (you may be that random player) instead, and that random kill will be identified as a random kill in the victim's death scene. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text.


You win if you are the only player left alive at the end of the game.

TownieYou are a Townie. You have no abilities other than your vote.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

TrackerYou are a Tracker. Once every action phase you may PM me the name of one other player. If that player uses an ability on any other players during the next action phase, I will tell you (via PM, and between 6 and 30 hours after I receive their PM) the names of those players targeted. If your action is blocked you will not be informed. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. I will deliver your investigation results by sending you a PM containing the quoted text of your action PM along with either "none" or the names of the players that your target targeted. You can PM me your first target before the game begins.


You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.
Last edited by Saunt Adelaus on Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:05 am, edited 24 times in total.
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:15 pm

areas of confusion in red:
DoctorYou are a Doctor, dedicated to saving lives. Once every action phase you can PM me the name of one player, and that player will be protected from one kill for the next action phase. You can PM your first target before the game begins. You can not protect yourself. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.


Mafia DoctorYou are a Doctor, dedicated to saving lives. Once every action phase you can PM me the name of one player, and that player will be protected from one kill for the next action phase. You can PM your first target before the game begins. You can not protect yourself. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You are also a member of the _____ Mafia with _____. Due to the Oath of Hippocrates, you are not allowed to perform your Mafia’s kill.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.


should not be read as giving permission to PM your target before the game begins. You can only PM me the name of your target. Sorry for any confusion.
DHSDSM α and DHSDSM β and hydra oh my! -- (Adel+Claus)

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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:45 pm

just to be clear, Doctors, Mafia Doctors, Mafia Roleblockers, Roleblockers, and Trackers must submit a target (via PM to this account) for action phase 1 before the game starts in order to use thier ability during action phase 1. During action phase 1 they will submit their target for action phase 2.
DHSDSM α and DHSDSM β and hydra oh my! -- (Adel+Claus)

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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:58 pm

FAQ:
    Q: When can (I/we) submit (my/our) kill?
    A: The kill for each action phase can be submitted during each action phase, when it is not twilight. Twilight is not connected to action phases.
    --added 19 April

    Q: Will a Tracker get a report during action phase 1 on a player who made a submission during the pregame?
    A: No. However, a Tracker will get a report if/when that player submits an action for action phase 2 during action phase 1.
    --added 26 April
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:49 pm

Error correction in rules:
Twilight Expiration Trigger: Twilight (the period following the last vote needed to lynch,) will last for a set period. In alpha that period will be 6 to 18 hours. In beta that period will be = to 2 * the number of living players in posts. No votes will be accepted during twilight, and action submissions [s]for the following period of day[/s] will not be accepted during Twilight. Flavor Excuse: lynchings are messy.

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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:57 pm

Start of Day 1

~~~

Start of Action Phase 1

~~~

Votecount:

not voting: 14 : Apples and Banana, Death the Hogfather, Frog Dodging, Incamnito, J-Scope, Ortohoops, Pesco-Light, PoketheAlpaca, Raging Wishbone, sex w/ shafteds wife club, Trotsky, Yosariwen, Zaphod Beeblebrox, Zmd

while 14 players are alive, 8 votes will lynch
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:02 pm

I broke this game too!

Zmd
Yosariwen
Pesco-Light

vote: Yosariwen for the win!
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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:09 pm

I'm game.

Vote: Yosariwen

- Incog.
CaffieneDeity (1:34:50 AM): (Don't self vote. That's just ridiculous..)

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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:22 pm

Oh hey, games on

Adel is obvscum here too

Vote Adel
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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:24 pm

Pesco, why are you voting a non-threat? You should be voting for scum, like this:

Vote: Pesco Light

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:27 pm

J-Scope wrote:Pesco, why are you voting a non-threat? You should be voting for scum, like this:

Vote: Pesco Light
Bravo for finding the scum. Clearly, a time/post waster. That's a mega scumtell in this game.

unvote, vote: Pesco-Light
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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:40 pm

I, PokerFace, have never modded or played with anyone in the Raging Wishbone pairing

Vote: Raging Wishbone

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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:56 pm

PoketheAlpaca wrote:I, PokerFace, have never modded or played with anyone in the Raging Wishbone pairing

Vote: Raging Wishbone

Suspect the unexpected

Have you played with at least one member of all other hydras?

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:05 pm

FOOLS, I KNOW WHEN WE ALL WILL DIE. EXCEPT ME, OF COURSE.

VOTE: YOSARIWEN BECAUSE HE POSTED ABOVE ME.
'Never say die, master. That's our motto, eh?'
I CAN'T SAY IT'S EVER REALLY BEEN MINE.
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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:11 pm

Yosariwen wrote:
PoketheAlpaca wrote:I, PokerFace, have never modded or played with anyone in the Raging Wishbone pairing

Vote: Raging Wishbone

Suspect the unexpected

Have you modded or played with at least one member of all other hydras?

Yes, I have.

<<PF
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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:15 pm

PoketheAlpaca wrote:
Yosariwen wrote:
PoketheAlpaca wrote:I, PokerFace, have never modded or played with anyone in the Raging Wishbone pairing

Vote: Raging Wishbone

Suspect the unexpected

Have you modded or played with at least one member of all other hydras?

Yes, I have.

<<PF


What can you tell me about team ortohoops, pocketface?

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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:14 pm

Votecount as of post 15:

Yosariwen: 2 :Incamnito, Death the Hogfather,
Pesco Light: 2 :J-Scope, Zaphod Beeblebrox,
Raging Wishbone: 1 :PoketheAlpaca,

not voting: 9 : Apples and Banana, Frog Dodging, Ortohoops, Pesco Light, Raging Wishbone, sex w/ shafteds wife club, Trotsky, Yosariwen, Zmd

while 14 players are alive, 8 votes will lynch

I'm going to be a little lenient about this at first, but
and is Cross-bussing via the Beta game.

is an example of talking about another game, which is explicitly banned in my rules.

Alpha and Beta are separate games. Within your hydra you can talk about the other game, but you can't talk about the other game in the in the game threads (or in your scum QT thread if your are mafia).
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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:12 am

Death the Hogfather wrote:FOOLS, I KNOW WHEN WE ALL WILL DIE. EXCEPT ME, OF COURSE.

VOTE: YOSARIWEN BECAUSE HE POSTED ABOVE ME.


it is obvious that death and hogfather are both sks individually; this post confirms this thought.

vote: death the hogfather
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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:31 am

Vote Frog Dodging

Did I just break a general rule of this site O.o?
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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:34 am

I have no reads on hydra's... I can't even figure out who most of them are XD

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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:50 am

Ortohoops wrote:What can you tell me about team ortohoops, pocketface?

Happy Birthday :) Let's spell wrong together! (Bad Idea Marthon and Explosiva were cool)

J-Scope wrote:I have no reads on hydra's... I can't even figure out who most of them are XD

It should be obvious which I be in my hydra when since Tajo's play style is different from mine and I make lawls. Though should we make it a policy to identify who is who when? Feels a little against the spirit of things so i can't decide.

Trotsky wrote:it is obvious that death and hogfather are both sks individually; this post confirms this thought.

Acusing or searching for an SK this early when we don't know there is one? That means one of 2 things:
1. Your Mafia trying to kill your scummy oposition.
2. You are an SK making a slip.
Looks like I can't be wrong
Unvote, Vote: Trotsky
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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:56 am

PoketheAlpaca wrote:It should be obvious which I be in my hydra when since Tajo's play style is different from mine and I make lawls. Though should we make it a policy to identify who is who when? Feels a little against the spirit of things so i can't decide.


it is optimal that the two heads of a hydra can't be told apart, so that any opinions can't be tied to one player or the other. differences in opinion within the hydras can potentially be exploited by scum.

PoketheAlpaca wrote:Acusing or searching for an SK this early when we don't know there is one? That means one of 2 things:
1. Your Mafia trying to kill your scummy oposition.
2. You are an SK making a slip.
Looks like I can't be wrong
Unvote, Vote: Trotsky


this post means one of 1 thing:
1. you haven't read terry pratchett and thus can't see the conclusive proof that death the hogfather is sk.

i am accusing them of being sk because flavorwise neither has a partner.
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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:28 am

Vote apples and banana. Many apples, but just one banana?

Signing names does help the town in a way, but it also creates tons of confusion since it sorta turns this into a 28 player game. Not sure whether or not it's the right approach, it's quite easy to tell everyone you have a meta on by their style anyways.

I think this game should be over by page 31 (3 scumkills), 36 at the very worst. So less fluff and more substance, people.

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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:43 am

raging wishbone: what have you done to avoid any more fluff posting? commenting on the hydra vs. heads dilemma is not really substance.
Ultimatism is an attempt to rape the working class after failing to convince it.--Leon Trotsky, Bureaucratic Ultimatism (1932)

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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:08 am

Trotsky wrote:
PoketheAlpaca wrote:It should be obvious which I be in my hydra when since Tajo's play style is different from mine and I make lawls. Though should we make it a policy to identify who is who when? Feels a little against the spirit of things so i can't decide.


it is optimal that the two heads of a hydra can't be told apart, so that any opinions can't be tied to one player or the other. differences in opinion within the hydras can potentially be exploited by scum.

That will lead to lurking, though.

If my partner says something that is questioned/attacked, then I can't post until she does without a) avoiding the issue, looking scummy or b) saying its a different head.
* 2 Apples
* 1 Banana
* LOTS of fun

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