Thoughts, presented in stream of consciousness form. If I contradict something I say earlier in the post later on in the post - it's because I changed my mind as I read. Don't get your pantsu in a twist over it.
In post 245, MariaR wrote: Okay thank you for this it was detailed well thoughout and I can understand where you're coming from and what you're trying to do I know I myself am seen as someone who is a easy ML for town and then what ends up happening if I live long enough people use the excuse of "Oh Maria is an easy ML as town so she must be scum who survived" It's a really shitty meta thing but that's not really important here I'm just doing filler because I'm with my friends having fun relaxing in a game so it's hard for me to sometimes understand how people can scumread me based on that I have a hard time not sring people I think should know when it's my town game but Ironically I tell people to not meta me I'm very hypocritical I play really well as scum on this site and awful as town but on my home site I do awful as scum and do well as town and I find that weird cause I don't think I play much dif between this site and my other site (you can ask Gerry or Cloud maybe they can tell) So it's hard to find a balance based on my play. I think this turned into a mini rant from me instead of trying to tell you why I'm not scum so I'll end it here
I dunno, this whole post feels really weird but might just be stemming from me not knowing Maria well (for well read at all) so v0v
Oh god CloudKicker is in this game. Please, dear god, no. (I'm at least 24% joking)
In post 276, Vifam wrote:Someone engage me in convo I've skimmed through the thread n I kinda don't feel the need to comment on anything
I mean there's that whole Maria mini-rant and several people commenting on it, I'd think there's something there to comment on.
In post 283, RadiantTroubadour wrote:also ive been thinking maybe we should stop talking about links post-early game
like scum have to make their kills in specific locations and if people seriously discuss who they link with then that can lead to scum figuring out ppl's location
Part of me agrees, part of me doesn't but also can't satisfactorily articulate why so fuck it we'll just say I agree for now until I can think over the uses/drawbacks of this
Its because of my epicmefia friends <3
epicmefia
P14-15 - what the fuck is even happening here.
In post 359, Pepsiman and Coke wrote:hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Clums you scums?
-Pepsiman (Ali)
"It's not scummy when
we
do it"
In post 356, Peptobislawl wrote:Yeah, I'm not voting until i see some reasoning. Then again, i amy have missed it, so quotes if you got 'em.
Sort of agree with this, sort of don't - RVS is over, so please start doing things but don't just hop on any old things because all the cool kids are
In post 369, MariaR wrote:Please don't say things you don't really mean.. You're either scum or bias because of my scum game and it's really fucking annoying that I have towny reactions but people go like "Oh that was Towny but it's Maria so it can be scum"
Pedit: Fuck off
In post 371, MariaR wrote:Kindly go away please before you make me more upset then I already am.
Are we still doing the Maria wagon? I didn't check so that it wouldn't affect my readthrough but holy shit this reaction to RT pressing on the reaction to the wagon is just... I dunno, combined with the earlier quote above I'd almost think Maria was pre-seeding this sort of "oh everyone thinks I'm the easy ML" defence.
In post 396, drealmerz7 wrote:*makes a superior AtE post*
*lurks more*
put the pitchforks down, I'm simply observing, it's totally pro-town for drealmer to lurk on D1, believe me I can meta-read him like no one else can
In a game where people are complaining about nothing happening (which until the Maria
thing
is true) someone thinks it's legit to shitpost about lurking... hm.
Mm, yes, well, that's all the convincing I needed
/s
Cloud - care to take me through what you disliked here?
I mean, you're not wrong - especially given that Aelita's only posts after this were
and
...like, there are two ways to react to having someone call out your posting, and spoilers - disappearing for 600 posts and offering no content whatsoever on your return isn't the pro-town way.
In post 460, Peptobislawl wrote:I don't know what's so weird about not wanting to vote someone who's L-3 less than 24 hours into D1, especially since I neither agree with the read nor have been provided any reasoning for the wagon.
Really the fact that she was at L-3 that early with almost no content to anyone's name is suspisious in and of itself, I just don't know who it makes me suspisious of. Cloud strikes me as overzealous town, so it's not him. Maria's reaction to the whole ordeal was bad, but she's emotional in general (based on the one game I played with someone i think is her), and the suspisiousness of the wagon makes me not scumread her for that.
Is there such a thing as too town to be town because I think this post from Bislawl could be it (note: this is not actual shade. I agree 100% with this post at this point)
It bothers me that Cloud is so attached to this wagon and so willing to OMGUS over this... and then randomidget hops on in RT's... defence? Or just thinking the same things I am right now?
*INSERT WARNING KLAXON FROM OG STAR TREK HERE* Holy shit Maria this is throwing up so many warning signs I almost believe that you genuinely don't realise how scummy this statement looks
I get that this
looks
like scumhunting/working towards something but it's not and I don't see an angle that a town player comes to this point from
500 posts in, 0 reads
Ooooookay then
In post 577, BTD6_maker wrote:The first thing that strikes me as notable is Pepsiman and Coke's bending of the rules by spamming.
The reason for this spamming is for the "Lost in the data stream" ability. Now, they ostensibly did this in order to post their reads after their death. However, they will flip after death anyway. Thus, if they are scum, the only use for this ability is probably to send private tactics (who to push etc.) to their partners. There is no point in telling the partners who is scum, as the partners already know. Thus I would say that this loophole use is unlikely to come from scum, as scum are probably less likely to spontaneously decide to do this which is useless to them. It is theoretically possible that scum did it to fake a Town thought process but this is less likely than Pepsiman and Coke being Town.
Pepsiman and Coke are currently a weak Townread for this.
On the other hand, since someone had already done it, it is probably much easier for scum RadiantTroubadour to fake doing the same thing, perhaps realising that it makes Pepsiman and Coke look Town. This is much weaker than Pepsiman and Coke, though. Radiant Troubadour is currently null-weak scum.
Being the first person to think of thing = townlean, being the second person to think of thing = scumlean? Doesn't make much sense to me, though I'm personally disinclined to attribute breaking the setup to either alignment.
In post 584, Rautherdir wrote:Okay, this game is going nowhere unless we post, so...
VOTE: The Bulge
Why are you town and who do you think is scum?
While I'm generally in favour of pressuring lurkers, I don't think D1 of a game this big is the place for grandstanding around making sure how town everyone knows you are for pushing those gosh darn lurkers
Hunting lurkers. Not hunting scum. Not engaging with the ongoing discussions. Hunting lurkers. I agree with RC on this (as of 599 at least, things might have changed later) - I don't see this as town at all.
P25/26 - Don't like Dreamerzlzwtfbbq's side of this argument at all. Lots of vague shade and dodging around various call outs from RC, refuses to commit to a vote on anyone but keeps pushing back, keeps looking for the reaction.
In post 645, Peptobislawl wrote:I don't really have anything to add at the moment so i'll just conferm that i agree with the pepsiman wagon and am leaving my RVS vote on them deliberatly.
I'm not convinced on dreal yet, still null to me.
JESUS CHRIST FOR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO SAY YOU'RE ALL TAKING AN AWFUL LOT OF POSTS TO NOT FUCKING SAY IT.
Okay that's halfwayish, feel free to ask questions, will answer them to the best of my ability via phone-posting at work, and will plough through the 2nd half of the read-through tomorrow after work and Friday Night Magic
TL;DR of my thoughts on the first 26 pages:
Way too much shitposting
Don't like the way Maria seeded the whole "everyone SRs me oh I'm always such an easy ML" defence and then proceeds to use it as soon as any pressure comes towards them
Way too many people are coasting and/or just straight up not posting and that needs to change (but not at the expense of actual scumhunting, as I've mentioned above there are a couple of people "going for the lurkers" instead of providing meaningful content) - If people could also articulate thoughts in 1 post instead of spreading a paragraph over 5 posts that would be A-OK with me please and thank you
After first 26 pages main SRs are in no particular order as yet: Maria, Dreamer, Rautherdir, P&C (subject to change across the next 25 pages)
TRs are harder to commit to right now mostly because these first pages include a lot of shitposts, if pressed would probably say RT/Pepto/BTD but less confident on these
If I didn't say your name in those last 2 sentences you're either null because I can't read you or null because I literally can't read you because you aren't posting enough in which case wake the fuck up
