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Post Post #4150 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2017 9:26 pm

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VOTE COUNT
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[L-2] Lil Uzi Vert:
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[1] Mathblade:
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Post Post #4151 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2017 10:58 pm

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In post 4143, Kelvin Smith wrote:Also, I still think it might be preferable to randomly select who should be protected between me and you. But if we have to delete it beforehand, I'd rather you be protected. You've got a better grasp on the gamestate than me.
Nah, I still have results to get :)
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Post Post #4152 (ISO) » Wed May 17, 2017 10:58 pm

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In post 4142, Gamma Emerald wrote:UNVOTE:
I'm thinking I'll target Creature with mine
Yes.
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Post Post #4153 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 4:43 am

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I expect to not have WiFi for about a week. This might cause issues if I hit my data limit. So
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Post Post #4154 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 5:44 am

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In post 4126, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:You don't find it odd that both Math and shos seem to be in synch and think I'm SK but Kelvin doesn't seem to feel the same way?

My understanding of the Candor hood is that they all town read each other strongly and feel like they're psudeo masons. If this is the case, why hasn't Kelvin voted me yet? I think there is more than what has been let on about what's going in Candor but since shos is town reading zakk's slot so hard, he's probably too far gone to really speak the truth.
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Post Post #4155 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 5:50 am

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Alright
Whoever has the roleblock? Use it on creature.

Ee can nowproceed
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Post Post #4156 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 5:52 am

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I have the roleblock.
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Post Post #4157 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 5:53 am

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rn I could roleblock either LUV or Gamma.
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Post Post #4158 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 6:35 am

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Well out of those choices I pick Gamma because roleblocking LUV will be stupid as he would be dead. I'm guessing reanimated corpses aren't the scum/SK. Just sayin.

Like someone summarize the abilities left?

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Post Post #4159 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 6:41 am

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DAUNTLESS - Follower (Used on Srceenplay) [Keyser Söze, Lil Uzi Vert]
ABNEGATION - Roleblock [Creature]
CANDOR - Cop (used on shos) [Mathblade, Kelvin Smith, shos]
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AMITY - Priest [Gamma Emerald]

So this. Creature won't roleblock himself. LUV would be lynched so Gamma should be blocked. Then we should have no deaths as LUV's likely SK flip and Gamma being the next most likely scum should pretty much have us wake up with no deaths.

Gamma should Priest anyone he thinks is scum and then declare it day open (assuming he's not dead which I find Gamma a highly unlikely scum/SK kill at this point)

I really can't shake this feeling Gamma is scum.
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Post Post #4160 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 6:49 am

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Even if I roleblocked myself, it'd still not clear me as I could be lying.

Well, I could get behind a Gamma lynch. Maybe we should lynch within Gamma/LUV (not me because I have the roleblock) and I block the other.
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Post Post #4161 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 6:50 am

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Btw, faction serums can't be blocked at all, so it's alright if I block Gamma.
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Post Post #4162 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 8:59 am

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Lynch LUV, block gamma. Gamma will priest creature, so that we can know if it happened
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Post Post #4163 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 9:24 am

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if LUV flips SK, then a kill (probably PV dies) will make gamma conftown. otherwise, scum cannot make a kill. we will then be 6v1, with one conftown at least.
if LUV somehow flips town, that means both SK and scum are going to look for each other, or PV. neither will kill me, obv; so we can expect a PV double kill, yielding 4v1v1 with 1 conftown, or a PV death + another death. if that other one is scum of any kind, we get 4v1 which is still quite good, with me alive and conftown. if that one is town, we'll have 3v1v1, which we will debate on later. We can either scumhunt as best as we can and then nolynch, hoping for crosskills, or we can try to lynch and treat this as lylo. nolynch is mathematically preferable, I think. But anyway, we WILL investigate further to
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By then I, who will surely stay alive, will have some more investigative results. Then I will claim which kind of investigations I can do, and all of the results of previous nights.
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Post Post #4164 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 9:25 am

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if there's anyone who objects to the above, please speak up now, and explain. LUV, if you're scum of any kind, you want to hunt the other - so say some bullshit about your role and tell us who you think the other scum is, if you're town obviously do that on both.

I think it's been stated already though, so I won't nudge if the hammer comes before he speaks, lol.
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Post Post #4165 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 9:27 am

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If LUV flips town, I still must use my roleblock?
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Post Post #4166 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 9:42 am

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I would like to look over more of the vote counts before ending the day.

Tomorrow afternoon would be fine, since I'm usually out of pocket on weekends.
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Post Post #4167 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 10:46 am

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In post 4163, shos wrote:if LUV flips SK, then a kill (probably PV dies) will make gamma conftown. otherwise, scum cannot make a kill. we will then be 6v1, with one conftown at least.
if LUV somehow flips town, that means both SK and scum are going to look for each other, or PV. neither will kill me, obv; so we can expect a PV double kill, yielding 4v1v1 with 1 conftown, or a PV death + another death. if that other one is scum of any kind, we get 4v1 which is still quite good, with me alive and conftown. if that one is town, we'll have 3v1v1, which we will debate on later. We can either scumhunt as best as we can and then nolynch, hoping for crosskills, or we can try to lynch and treat this as lylo. nolynch is mathematically preferable, I think. But anyway, we WILL investigate further to
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to crosskill to avoid being killed at night, clearly.

By then I, who will surely stay alive, will have some more investigative results. Then I will claim which kind of investigations I can do, and all of the results of previous nights.
I don't think this is a thing (Assume luv Town)
I think if the SK and scum know each other they would avoid cross killing here. Cross killing would be disastrous here.

I think a PV double kill is unlikely. More than likely scum will shoot PV or be blocked or claim scum was blocked. A smart SK doesn't kill who scum clearly want to kill. Not only would SK have to not cross shoot they also have to avoid hitting the same target as the scum. I think the SK kills me or Kelvin. Me because I am obvTown to the conf town and that is one more lynch that won't happen and Kelvin because he is in the masonry and by claim.

Scum and SK can't afford a cross kill as I said earlier in the hood. At the end of the day right now there is one conf town by mod shos. Two conf towns my claim Kelvin and Peregrine V.

So a smart SK doesn't shoot who scum shoots.

Looking at 4v1v1 or 3v1v1 tomorrow if LUV is Town.


If LUV flips some kind of killing scum then by PoE we should just be able to do Gamma/Creature then the other and GG. This case honestly is pretty much GG we win at this point.

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Post Post #4168 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 11:02 am

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Why can't scum be one of the PRs?
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Post Post #4169 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 11:14 am

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The only PR even remotely possible is Keyser and SK most likely due to a day action.
PV is confirmed to have saved shos which as scum would be gambity and risky as fuck. PV is neither. So PV is town.
Keyser with some weird day action maybe a day kill? Could be SK.
But no way shos is and I don't think 1 shot vig gets given to scum with a one shot BP.
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Post Post #4170 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 11:21 am

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Well, okay, so we ready to end the day?
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Post Post #4171 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 11:27 am

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In post 4166, PeregrineV wrote:I would like to look over more of the vote counts before ending the day.

Tomorrow afternoon would be fine, since I'm usually out of pocket on weekends.
I am but PV isn't. He wants to look at stuff sooooo

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Post Post #4172 (ISO) » Thu May 18, 2017 10:01 pm

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In post 4167, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4163, shos wrote:if LUV flips SK, then a kill (probably PV dies) will make gamma conftown. otherwise, scum cannot make a kill. we will then be 6v1, with one conftown at least.
if LUV somehow flips town, that means both SK and scum are going to look for each other, or PV. neither will kill me, obv; so we can expect a PV double kill, yielding 4v1v1 with 1 conftown, or a PV death + another death. if that other one is scum of any kind, we get 4v1 which is still quite good, with me alive and conftown. if that one is town, we'll have 3v1v1, which we will debate on later. We can either scumhunt as best as we can and then nolynch, hoping for crosskills, or we can try to lynch and treat this as lylo. nolynch is mathematically preferable, I think. But anyway, we WILL investigate further to
help
them crosskill ;) and they
want
to crosskill to avoid being killed at night, clearly.

By then I, who will surely stay alive, will have some more investigative results. Then I will claim which kind of investigations I can do, and all of the results of previous nights.
I don't think this is a thing (Assume luv Town)
I think if the SK and scum know each other they would avoid cross killing here. Cross killing would be disastrous here.

I think a PV double kill is unlikely. More than likely scum will shoot PV or be blocked or claim scum was blocked. A smart SK doesn't kill who scum clearly want to kill. Not only would SK have to not cross shoot they also have to avoid hitting the same target as the scum. I think the SK kills me or Kelvin. Me because I am obvTown to the conf town and that is one more lynch that won't happen and Kelvin because he is in the masonry and by claim.

Scum and SK can't afford a cross kill as I said earlier in the hood. At the end of the day right now there is one conf town by mod shos. Two conf towns my claim Kelvin and Peregrine V.

So a smart SK doesn't shoot who scum shoots.

Looking at 4v1v1 or 3v1v1 tomorrow if LUV is Town.


If LUV flips some kind of killing scum then by PoE we should just be able to do Gamma/Creature then the other and GG. This case honestly is pretty much GG we win at this point.

@Creature Yes. If anything if LUV flips Town you use your block even more.
I disagree. What's better for you - to stand alone against 6 town or against 5 town AND an SK who can kill you? either of them want the other dead. you can always be lynched, but with the other alive, you can also be shot.
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Post Post #4173 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2017 1:51 am

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In post 4166, PeregrineV wrote:I would like to look over more of the vote counts before ending the day.

Tomorrow afternoon would be fine, since I'm usually out of pocket on weekends.
Getvthat done, will ya? You most likely die, so also letout your readsin each case for a flip
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Post Post #4174 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2017 4:20 am

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In post 4172, shos wrote:
In post 4167, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4163, shos wrote:if LUV flips SK, then a kill (probably PV dies) will make gamma conftown. otherwise, scum cannot make a kill. we will then be 6v1, with one conftown at least.
if LUV somehow flips town, that means both SK and scum are going to look for each other, or PV. neither will kill me, obv; so we can expect a PV double kill, yielding 4v1v1 with 1 conftown, or a PV death + another death. if that other one is scum of any kind, we get 4v1 which is still quite good, with me alive and conftown. if that one is town, we'll have 3v1v1, which we will debate on later. We can either scumhunt as best as we can and then nolynch, hoping for crosskills, or we can try to lynch and treat this as lylo. nolynch is mathematically preferable, I think. But anyway, we WILL investigate further to
help
them crosskill ;) and they
want
to crosskill to avoid being killed at night, clearly.

By then I, who will surely stay alive, will have some more investigative results. Then I will claim which kind of investigations I can do, and all of the results of previous nights.
I don't think this is a thing (Assume luv Town)
I think if the SK and scum know each other they would avoid cross killing here. Cross killing would be disastrous here.

I think a PV double kill is unlikely. More than likely scum will shoot PV or be blocked or claim scum was blocked. A smart SK doesn't kill who scum clearly want to kill. Not only would SK have to not cross shoot they also have to avoid hitting the same target as the scum. I think the SK kills me or Kelvin. Me because I am obvTown to the conf town and that is one more lynch that won't happen and Kelvin because he is in the masonry and by claim.

Scum and SK can't afford a cross kill as I said earlier in the hood. At the end of the day right now there is one conf town by mod shos. Two conf towns my claim Kelvin and Peregrine V.

So a smart SK doesn't shoot who scum shoots.

Looking at 4v1v1 or 3v1v1 tomorrow if LUV is Town.


If LUV flips some kind of killing scum then by PoE we should just be able to do Gamma/Creature then the other and GG. This case honestly is pretty much GG we win at this point.

@Creature Yes. If anything if LUV flips Town you use your block even more.
I disagree. What's better for you - to stand alone against 6 town or against 5 town AND an SK who can kill you? either of them want the other dead. you can always be lynched, but with the other alive, you can also be shot.
What is better for me is cross kills as I am Town but I know scum/SK won't be dumb enough if they know who each other are.
In a normal numbers situation you're right. However if they cross shoot they lose due to the number of confirmed Town that exist. Pretty much scum's only hope is to never cross shoot and convince final Town why they deserve to win.
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