| The Divergent Series | Game Over |

[keyenpeydee]

VOTE COUNT

VOTE COUNT 4.05

[2] BTD6_maker:

WhemeStar, shos,

[2] zakk:

PeregrineV, Ramcius,

[1] Keyser Söze:

momo,

[1 Lil Uzi Vert:

Nero Cain,

[8] Not Voting:

alban, Keyser Söze, BTD6_maker, Creature, zakk, Lil Uzi Vert,

MOD NOTES:

Read the below post.

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to lynch. Day Three will end in

(expired on 2017-05-10 00:05:00)

.

[keyenpeydee]

PeregrineV replaces rb! Still waiting for ThinkBig to know if he's interested to replace BTD6_maker.

[Ramcius]

welcome aboard, Pere

[Creature]

Hi PeregrineV, can you confirm you're a 1-shot Friendly Neighbor and used your shot on Not_Mafia N1?

[Keyser Söze]

question is: does mafia takes gamble to swap their killing member with RM N1 instead of making someone else to do kill and having Srceen as conf investigative role and pretty much lynch immune for quite a while? Assuming Ircher said true about swapping RM and Srceen N1. That's quite a bit of WIFOM, so i prefer not lynch them now, cause we have better candidates.

Interesting: yes, why doesn't mafia-LUV/mafia-Ramcius tell their mafia teammate (Srceenplay) to only use their investigation power N1, and to NOT carry out the factional NK too?

Our faction FOLLOWER investigation result would have been:

'The Dauntless Faction followed Srceenplay. Srceenplay's action was investigate'.

We'd basically have left him alone for the rest of the game until LYLO (that would have been optimal mafia-play, instead of needlessly bussing him).

These are more reasons to doubt the presence of 'mafia' scum in the The Dauntless Faction.

So, what is this?:

A) bad scum-play
B) extreme WIFOM-play

Neither for me. I go for the easy reason:

C) both likely not mafia

[Creature]

idk why nobody in Dauntless is being NKed.

[Ramcius]

Hi PeregrineV, can you confirm you're a 1-shot Friendly Neighbor and used your shot on Not_Mafia N1?

considering NM died N1, he couldn't tell anyone he was visited by friendly neighbor, so claim have no weight

[Ramcius]

idk why nobody in Dauntless is being NKed.

huh? Trans was what faction?

[Creature]

Oh right, I forgot.

[Ramcius]

Oh right, I forgot.

still, you didn't explained your TR on zakk and BTD, at least i got now why you TR rb/Pere

[Keyser Söze]

idk why nobody in Dauntless is being NKed.

Is this supposed to be a town-slip?

[PeregrineV]

welcome aboard, Pere

Thanks!!!
Glad to join my fellow Deviants!!

[PeregrineV]

Before reading 100 pages (cough unlikely cough), is there anything I need to know that's already been put out there?

[PeregrineV]

And is zakk scum?




Would like this answer before I go read him.

[Ramcius]

And is zakk scum?




Would like this answer before I go read him.

good question, but we have no night results to clear or guilty him

[PeregrineV]

And is zakk scum?




Would like this answer before I go read him.

good question, but we have no night results to clear or guilty him

Since you're voting him, what is your opinion based on?

[Ramcius]

could be a framer, framing screenplay because they knew the target in advance

again, still have to lynch screenplay to find out

This was my next thought

There is also a bus driver

looking Ircher ISO i found him pointing at this zakk words, considering Ircher flipped mafia bus driver it's interesting thing to say

[Ramcius]

And is zakk scum?




Would like this answer before I go read him.

good question, but we have no night results to clear or guilty him

Since you're voting him, what is your opinion based on?

i think he's a good lynch, he did some questionable moves D1 by trying out serums, tried to learn Dauntless serum specifically (said he was drunk and don't remember that message later)

[Keyser Söze]

RE: Ircher-zakk

Was there a reason why Ircher kept flipping his read on zakk?:

FROM SCUM

Zakk is by far the superior lynch due to the fact that he's only here at the most convenient of times and is non*entity elsewise.

VOTE: Zakk

TO TOWN

UNVOTE:

I townread everyone posting there, including Zakk.

Zakk's town.

TO MAYBE

It cold be biased town. That's a possibility. But, the way he is going about it makes me think he might b scum.

Pedit: I need to do some research reads-wise. Zakk feels town in the PT but doesn't feel the same as in Adventure mafia though not significantly differently.

TO TOWN

Zakk is town.

Is there anthing in the PT to explain these shifts of reads?

[Nero Cain]

Why was RB replaced before BT6?

[PeregrineV]

Why was RB replaced before BT6?

Guessing ThinkBig got back to Key before I did.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I dont underatand those wanting to lynch keyser. His posts make me feel good. Am I just a sucker for cpntent? Please explain.


Also alban posted in Candor. We should keep him alive for now, I guess.

Can you summarize what he's recently posted in there?

I dont underatand those wanting to lynch keyser. His posts make me feel good. Am I just a sucker for cpntent? Please explain.


Also alban posted in Candor. We should keep him alive for now, I guess.

Keyser makes the same type of posts as scum or town so I'd rather just have him gone

This is stupid. You were also in 1889.

i see how LUV or Keyser can be mafia despite Srceen guilty by faction ability, but question is: does mafia takes gamble to swap their killing member with RM N1 instead of making someone else to do kill and having Srceen as conf investigative role and pretty much lynch immune for quite a while? Assuming Ircher said true about swapping RM and Srceen N1. That's quite a bit of WIFOM, so i prefer not lynch them now, cause we have better candidates.

My reads:
conf town

momo - would mafia let him be leading wagon trough all D1, if he was one of them?
Wheme - shos vanilla result kinda confirms Srceen claim Wheme is VT
shos - obv reasons, hope you didn't hardbussed Ircher

town lean:
LUV - reasons stated above
Keyser - same
Nero - i find him really towny
alban - i liked his reaction to my vote D1, inactivity is annoying, but that's NAI

lynch candidates:
zakk - stated earlier with my vote
rb - i didn't liked his playstyle trough this game, he was scumlean since D1, holding till replacement
BTD - stated earlier with vote, holding on this slot till replacememnt comes in
creature - didn't liked that "swapped faction, cause Ircher asked", had scumlean trough game

Why aren't you considering Nero? I haven't felt good about some of his recent statements and my recent interactions with him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why was RB replaced before BT6?

Does it matter? What was the purpose of this question?

[zakk]

i also have gut feeling ur scum, so how about u do something and then explain it instead of being a lurksack

thx

how am i lurking

kill this scumfuck, his ISO is literally nauseating

read it, udnerstand this

then vote

you totally lost me

I'm saying it in a past tense way to show that I read Alban as town just like I did Momo and he turned out to be town

how did momo "turn out to be town" when he hasn't flipped yet?

Why can't it be that I'm attempting to work and understand what confirmed town is thinking?

even if he's confirmed town that doesn't mean his reads are better than anyone else. Hello appeal to authority.

town points for nero, scum points for LUV

rb
Keyser Söze
Lil Uzi Vert
BTD6_maker
Creature
^
is literally the POE list.

I am town reading all of

alban
momo
Ramcius.

assuming that I'm right about those 3. then


zakk
alban
momo
Nero Cain
Ramcius
WhemeStar
shos

so we can just lynch those from the POE list.

shos is confirmed town

and i refuse to lynch alban today

I have come to the decision that BTD6_maker needs to be force-replaced due to lack of activity. He also shows no signs of interest in this game. This is a final decision from your mod.

*golf clap*

replace me out, done with mafia for a while

i.... see you lost yourself as well there along the way...

VOTE: zakk

since BTD being replaced i try this, i didn't liked his attempts to learn serums D1,

especially trying know ours.

At this point i have good reason to believe we had no mafia in our hood - Amity had 2, and Srceen wasn't warned for our use on him

i stand by the fact that town being able to plan around putting the most townie people in the threads with the most townie powers would have been pro-town. nobody was willing to coordinate it, and it ended up being a losing battle even trying to convince everyone so i just gave it up, especially since one of my scum reads (elena fisher) was also pushing the same plan and i began to not trust that it would be the best idea myself due to the large outcry. anyway, fast forward a bit, and surprise surprise elena ended up being town. you're making it sound like i had this diabolical scum plan to be able to control all the powers as scum, even though i actually moved factions from a faction that i KNEW wasn't using their power that night, to a faction that i could VERY REASONABLY ASSUME (re: RC / Titus / Nero Cain / rb) would use their power at the earliest opportunity (they did), just for the sake of talking to more people and getting better reads, thus GUARANTEEING that i had no power to influence ANY factional powers whatsoever in the game? it just makes no sense. if i were trying to control powers, i.e. if i was scum, i would be doing the opposite; voting for my faction's power, THEN leaving, esp. to a group that I thought might not use their power right away. so your argument is completely backwards.

and anyway, all the people i wanted to join that topic to talk to, ended up in other topics anyway. all i got was shos, and then alban joined later due to mod error. so yea i kinda got reallllly boned. (except, in the end, i didn't actually get boned too bad because shos is doing a lot better than i thought he'd be this game).

also, as for the bolded in your post, 1) how could i have known there was a vig power other than my own powers of assumption, 2) why is your power different than any other shared power, aside from the fact that it can kill someone, as opposed to block, protect, jail, cop, rolecop, etc., them?

and i hate to point out (not really tho; wtf man), you guys shot a townie. maybe it was a scummy townie, but it was a townie nonetheless, and one that i had a strong town read on due to my time in abnegation with him... not saying it's the end of the world that mewtaph is dead, but how could it have been worse if we would have at least tried to let people vote on who voted on controlling the kill? we've all collectively lynched 3 scum in a row, i find it hard to believe we'd screw it up THAT badly.

[zakk]

VOTE: zakk

since BTD being replaced i try this, i didn't liked his attempts to learn serums D1, especially trying know ours. At this point i have good reason to believe we had no mafia in our hood - Amity had 2, and Srceen wasn't warned for our use on him

just want to point out:

they also had a bus driver though. maybe they something along the lines of bus driving him with someone (ircher was a bus driver), but it didn't work for some reason. i know there is at least one roleblock power in the game, also, didn't Radiant Moonlight say he was ascetic? you can speculate a lot on this.

i do tend to agree with you though. i have thought this ever since the screenplay flip, and it takes a little bit of mental acrobatics (or a really good gambit on someone's part, which i would say is an equally long shot, but we can't rule out either) to place scum in that faction in any fashion.

i also think this is the most likely reason transcend died; scum has lost 3-- and panicked and was trying to break up what they KNOW is a town block, which can communicate in a place they (scum) can't read.

tl;dr:

i mostly agree, but here are some ways where you could be wrong.