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Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:27 pm

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In post 3037, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 3036, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 3032, dramonic wrote:I kinda just assume the Council Leader was action-immune or something?
Cuz we failed some stuff there.
Immune to kills
and actions
Then why were you on Lime's ass when he failed his neighbor thing? You're
immune
to it <_<
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Technically Chronos is like Cronus' great-great-grandfather.

Chronos->Chaos->Gaia->Uranus->Cronus

NBD :p
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Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:00 am

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I have a lot of thoughts after reading the dead threads.
For one, Moz is so hateful. Me and Schadd gave you a win, enjoy it :p

-Mario's guilty on me falling into oblivion was kind of lolzy. Reason I didn't claim roleblocker was because MM was so obviously town that there was no way I as town woulda roleblocked him, so I had to come up with a different flavor of bullshit. Not that anyone held me accountable for THAT either.
-Bussing is a legitimate strategy, wether Moz likes it or not :p
-I wanted to tell Lime why he was failing his action on Wheme (I think I actually did at some point)
-We (well I wanted to) shot Nos because while he thinks he was useless, he was pretty obviously town (at the time), and we were working off the assumption that Nero was some form of BP and Mario was the prime protection target.

Overall I think this game had a lot of it being poor townplay as opposed to great scum performance, with no offense to my allies.
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Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:01 am

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In post 3017, dramonic wrote:Also I have a theory as to what happened with Lime's neighborizing attempts, but wheme should be aware of it.
Or im wrong.
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Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:01 am

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^
This kind of stuff.
Is why the town lost.

Please know what your role does people :P
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Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:05 am

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Also you can release the scum PT if you want
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Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:27 am

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Good game all. I will release all PTs later today. Hope everyone enjoyed this game and enjoyed the mechanics. I have quite a bit of commentary
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Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:29 am

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Game Links


Player NameAlignmentFlavor NameRole
Scylla and Charybdis (alt of Vedith)
Town
HecateNecromancer
dramonic
Mafia
ChronosInformed Conditional Macho Roleblocker
Nosferatu
Town
Yahweh (Judaism)Globally Post Restricted 1-shot Deathproof
CommKnight (replaces Blanche)
Town
IshtarRoleblocker
MarioManiac4
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Poseidon (Greek god of the seas)Rolecop
drealmerz7
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SetRoleblocker
Creature
Mafia
Egyptian God AtenBackup Neighbor
schadd_
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gautama buddhaEnlightened
lime in da coconut (replaces Leonshade)
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FriggFriendly Neighbor
Mulch (replaces ThreeStrong)
Town
ZeusVigilante
WhemeStar
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Ra the sun god1-shot Nightskipper Neighbor
Nero Cain
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VidarInformed Character Vigilante
mozamis
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Cupid1-shot lovermaker
Theta Alpine
Town
fenrir from norse mythologyMiller
VaxKiller (replaces Mantichora)
Town
MercuryNeighbourizer
Ramcius
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AshurAuto-Commuter
Dark Horse
Town
Agni (Hinduism)Limited Bulletproof
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Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:30 am

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Game Events
Day 1
  • spicer1209 (replaces Ramcius) is lynched with 3 scum on his wagon.


Night 1
  • drealmerz blocks CommKnight
  • CommKnight blocks Vaxkiller
  • dramonic kills Mulch


Day 2
  • CommKnight is lynched with 2 scum on his wagon


Night 2
  • MarioManiac4 role cops Theta Alpine (fails)
  • mozamis loverizes Nero Cain and MM4 (fails)
  • Vaxkiller neighborizes Nero Cain (fails)
  • Dramonic shoots Nosferatu (Nosferatu loses death-proof ability)
  • Dramonic role blocks MM4 (success)


Day 3
  • Nero Cain kills fenrir (Theta Alpine) (success)
  • Creature is lynched with 1 scum on their wagon


Night 3
  • dramonic kills Vaxkiller (success)
  • Leonshade FN's Nero Cain (fails)


Day 4
  • WhemeStar uses power


Night 4Skipped


Day 5
  • mozamis is lynched with 1 scum on their wagon


Night 5
  • dramonic shoots MM4 and roleblocks MM4
  • MM4 rolecops Nos


Day 6
  • MathBlade is lynched


Night 6
  • lime FN's WhemeStar (fails)
  • schadd_ kills Nero


Day 7
  • Nos is lynched with 2 scum on wagon


Night 7
  • schadd_ kills dreamlerz7 (success: game over)
  • drealmrez7 blocks Whemestar
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Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:30 am

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Thanks to Ari for being an awesome co mod and thanks to smith for helping to create the setup.
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Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:08 am

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definitely a game I would say that scum didn't win, town just lost
balance among all things
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Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:13 am

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I'm going to be modding a 21 player musical uPick. Feel free to pre in now. It's in the theme queue.
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Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:45 am

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That was entertaining to watch. Good game, scum. Especially Schadd.

Also, the Pantheon and Divine Council threads are still closed. Should they be open now?
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Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:53 am

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Lol I defended scum. But still, couldn't get into this one that much.
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Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:58 am

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In post 3110, Virtuoso wrote:I'm going to be modding a 21 player musical uPick. Feel free to pre in now. It's in the theme queue.
Pre-in
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Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:19 am

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pre in as well
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Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:21 am

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GG all, I knew dram was scum! To bad I was wrong on everything else.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:37 am

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May I pre-in to that
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Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:01 am

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In post 3101, dramonic wrote:Overall I think this game had a lot of it being poor townplay as opposed to great scum performance, with no offense to my allies.
I agree.

I also think the day that I was trying to get Mario elected as chief God but didn't was a big problem. I was worried that if I was too forceful I'd let scum know something was up.
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Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:05 am

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@Mods: Why did the friendly neighbor fail both times?


Congratz scum, and good job to lime for being an excellent replacement.

I didn't follow the game closely post-replacement, so I don't really have anything to comment on. The scumteam isn't terribly surprising (interestingly all three of my votes were on scum), but sometimes the town just likes to tear itself apart if the scum lay low.
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Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:09 am

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FN failed boht times because it targeted chief god, who was killproof and ascetic
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Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:38 am

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In post 3042, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3031, WhemeStar wrote:Can we get some PT's released?
Sure, I'll see what's reasonable to release at the moment! :)
I would say the council meetings are reasonable to release.

In post 3038, mhsmith0 wrote:And ascetic. That way scum get siemthing helpful if they take the role.
Nero, WhemeStar, just have to say I am in fact a bit salty about this, because actions + nightkills failing when targeting you was valuable information to have which you could have conveyed to me. If I possessed that information, I would have never let WhemeStar become the council leader (because Nero Cain being immune to nightkills I value more than WhemeStar being immune to nightkills), and I would never have wasted my night action on the council leader. Furthermore, it would have prevented me from making serious setup spec errors. (See below.)

In post 3055, mhsmith0 wrote:But dramonic not dying after the mechanical claim against him was pretty :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
This is tied to the above. I was working with the knowledge that actions had failed which shouldn't have been possible to fail. My action failed twice, yet the only possible player to cause that failure was schadd_ by conventional reasoning (or so I thought).

MarioManiac4's action failed, with the only possible player to cause that failure being dramonic. Had I speculated dramonic-schadd_ as the scumteam with both as roleblockers, I'd have been right about the scumteam...but for the wrong reasons, because both as scum roleblockers felt a bit unreasonable in a game where each pantheon is already only active every third night (and I was right to conclude it was unreasonable).

When you combine these deductions together, there was a strong case to be made for the scum possessing some form of block outside of player/pantheon-specific abilities (similar mechanisms are not at all uncommon in theme games of this nature), in which case dramonic was not confirmed scum. I do not believe in a role equaling an alignment and thought that principle applicable.

In post 3027, WhemeStar wrote:I think there's something about Nos that just makes me want to vote him. I don't think its Nos's fault this is the case its just something I can't explain?
I said it in the final chief god thread, but I actually was doubting my Nosferatu scumread at the end and had developed a theory which would explain the game's events. Admittedly, I was half-wrong (the theory I developed was that dramonic's real role was a role targeting a player and allowing that player to use their action even when their pantheon isn't in power, with his scumbuddy thus being drealmerz7, explaining the failed actions of both MarioManiac4 and my slot), but I am really kicking myself for having voted Nosferatu, yes. Nosferatu was just so votable and I don't really have an explanation for it outside of confirmation bias.

In post 3028, drealmerz7 wrote:I got super paranoid about wheme because he was totally MIA when nosferatu and I were talking things out in the hood N6 and then he was first on the nos wagon - I let that get ahold of me rather than use reason where I knew it was most likely just schadd and dram with my brain
sorry
I told WhemeStar in our thread that he absolutely needed to be actively communicating with you and it was for this very reason. I know you well enough to have my suspicions of when you're going to make a stupid action, so I was predicting you'd block town if I couldn't convince you otherwise. I said that WhemeStar needed to convey to you that if you had any doubts, you needed to explain them so that I could let you know why not to block town. I'm saddened I didn't do so with greater haste since I feel if I had acted faster my messages may have reached you.

In post 3101, dramonic wrote:Overall I think this game had a lot of it being poor townplay as opposed to great scum performance, with no offense to my allies.
I agree. This was my take the moment I replaced into the game. I knew the scum weren't playing well, but that the town was playing worse. The
hope
was I could turn it around, but I messed up. :cry:
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Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:43 am

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spicer lynch was the only bad lynch before mozamis in my opinion. after that, it went downhill fast.

dramonic not being lynched in particular was sad; the pantheons were a serious nerf to town, but had the ability to catch scum in actions. my n2 action managed that, and i spent days trying to solve what it meant. as soon as it was solved, i died and town ignored it. apart from nero cain who is our lord and saviour of course, but.
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Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:44 am

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All PTs have been released!

Also I added a link to the mod/spoilered thread
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Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:16 am

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In post 3101, dramonic wrote:For one, Moz is so hateful. Me and Schadd gave you a win, enjoy it :p
I asked you nicely not to bus early on, and you weren't very nice. You were then not very nice for the rest of the game. Don't try to blame me for YOU being unfriendly. Sure, you played ok - not great, but ok -but it's important to be firendly and helpful if you can. You were a douchebag, simple as.
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Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:17 am

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The game summed up: below average scum team beat bad town.
Great flavour and roles.
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