Paint Mafia Mania! Game Over come look at the garbage fire

[beeboy]

UNVOTE:

I guess we wait.

[Smocaine]

Doesn't this just make Alchemist Jjh's scumbuddy?

[Something_Smart]

Doesn't this just make Alchemist Jjh's scumbuddy?

probably, yes

claim pls

[Smocaine]

[Something_Smart]

are you from epicmafia?

[Smocaine]

The yellow pertains to PR.

VT

pedit: yes

[Something_Smart]

ok

I'm VT

[beeboy]

Rask and we done.

[West9]

He claimed the same role as Schadd except replace yellow with red.

Also, I think we can solve all the NAR stuff by taking into account that Vaxkiller ate Random on the same night you coloured him.

I have confirmation from Cheet from a while ago that painting resolves before, at the very least, my investigation, and I'm guessing it resolves before most other paint-based roles as well

[Keychain]

Ok so why Vax should kill someone


10 -> 8 -> 6 game over
10 -> (vaxkill) 9 -> 7 -> 5

As my graph clearly shows this does not make us lose faster.

Yes but not losing faster doesn't necessarily mean it's a better option.

PV, do you have flavour? I'm kind of puzzled that you wouldn't be clear on your role changing the colour of your targets from your role PM. Why did you choose the targets you did?

Yeah, exactly as stated. I block someone by mixing red into their color. Didn't really know what they meant until Random's death and Vax's claim.

I picked Vax because something was off to me. Then creature because I agreed with Alisae and all the other comments of creature-meta.

Then Vax because he softed he could do something, be left it vague. If he was pulling a Varsoon, I wanted him blocked.

Night4 I wanted to prove or disprove Random as final red scum. If I blocked him, there would be only one kill. There were 2, so he was not the final red.

Last night I went with jjh because of the suspicion on him. There ended up being no kill. So unless anyone has another reason, I conclude I blocked him from performing the kill.

(bolding mine)

?
Vax was softing some kind of role that could "take care" of Creature, very possibly a town PR, so you blocked him using the excuse of Varsoon, who was still alive at that point iirc. Am I misunderstanding something? That seems off.


I'll go ahead and finish my claim. I'm paint varnish, whatever colour my target is at the end of the night can't be modified. If we're believing schadd that means that Smocaine is pretty clear for me - even if yellow scum can remove their yellow by some means, Smocaine only had the opportunity on N1.

[Vaxkiller]

Does anyone dispute this?

VOTE: schadd cuz i'd rather not be like force replaced

i have innos on keychain, peregrine, jjh, smocaine (they are either town or not yellow)

i think the yellow team is west beeboy random? west seems like he is convinced that i'm red through means outside of what he's posted in thread and wanted to have a confident and linear set of reasoning which to me seemed shoddy. also gatekeeping the random lynch in a way i don't remember him doing for other ones

keep in mind i've also read like 1/4? of the game

varsoon just got tired of porkens that's literally it lmao

bins mixed me with west

think i wanna steer clear of multiball (i did like a decent job of seeming yellow lmao)

goodbye ❤

Keychain T
jjh927 T
Vaxkiller T
Smocaine T
PeregrineV T
Raskolnikov T

West9
Something_Smart
Alchemist21
beeboy

This seems open and shut to me. I could always eat west to see if hes telling the truth as well, but he seems pretty town to me.

Soooo, again, with all the new info this is still accurate right? ALSO west9 HAS To be town with this info as well. (I forgot west and schadd were mixed and schadd flipped purp)

So its down to:
SS
Alch
beeboy


In my opinion we KNOW alch is scum with a harmless ability so lets lynch beeboy or SS.

What else am I missing?

[Something_Smart]

West confirmed that I was the same color as Keychain.

I've said that like 5 times.

[beeboy]

OK GUYS SO LET ME EXPLAIN.

So if PV and JJH are clear for the same reason and PV has a guilty on JJH.
That means schadd IS NOT a reliable source for honest results as PV's genuinely having guilty and Schadds results CANNOT coexist.

Does anyone not follow?

[beeboy]

@keychain pls claimerino.

[beeboy]

Alch + JJH > PV
in terms of odds of being scum btw.

[beeboy]

@keychain pls claimerino.

I keep missing stuff oh my.

Tbh I expected keychain to have a higher power role.

[beeboy]

Red Scum:
Yellow Cop
Yellow Scum:
Investigative hood

Town
Hider
Self Watcher that gives colors (relevant this actually clears people)

Claimed
Cop
Color specific killing role
Parity Cop


Tooo much claimed investigative shit imo

PV kinda investigates to a degree as well.

[PeregrineV]

Ok so why Vax should kill someone


10 -> 8 -> 6 game over
10 -> (vaxkill) 9 -> 7 -> 5

As my graph clearly shows this does not make us lose faster.

Yes but not losing faster doesn't necessarily mean it's a better option.

PV, do you have flavour? I'm kind of puzzled that you wouldn't be clear on your role changing the colour of your targets from your role PM. Why did you choose the targets you did?

Yeah, exactly as stated. I block someone by mixing red into their color. Didn't really know what they meant until Random's death and Vax's claim.

I picked Vax because something was off to me. Then creature because I agreed with Alisae and all the other comments of creature-meta.

Then Vax because he softed he could do something, be left it vague. If he was pulling a Varsoon, I wanted him blocked.

Night4 I wanted to prove or disprove Random as final red scum. If I blocked him, there would be only one kill. There were 2, so he was not the final red.

Last night I went with jjh because of the suspicion on him. There ended up being no kill. So unless anyone has another reason, I conclude I blocked him from performing the kill.

(bolding mine)

?
Vax was softing some kind of role that could "take care" of Creature, very possibly a town PR, so you blocked him using the excuse of Varsoon, who was still alive at that point iirc. Am I misunderstanding something? That seems off.


I'll go ahead and finish my claim. I'm paint varnish, whatever colour my target is at the end of the night can't be modified. If we're believing schadd that means that Smocaine is pretty clear for me - even if yellow scum can remove their yellow by some means, Smocaine only had the opportunity on N1.

Vax was softing a PR, just like Varsoon had already claimed a PR. Porkens flipped town, proving Varsoon was not what he claimed. I already had Vax suspicion, so went back to him for my n3 target.

[PeregrineV]

Red Scum:
Yellow Cop
Yellow Scum:
Investigative hood

Town
Hider
Self Watcher that gives colors (relevant this actually clears people)

Claimed
Cop
Color specific killing role
Parity Cop


Tooo much claimed investigative shit imo

PV kinda investigates to a degree as well.

I actually roleblock, which investigates nothing, really.

[beeboy]

Ye I guess in a game with 4 scum RB kinda never actually gets the chance to investigate.
In smaller games it 100% investigates which is more how i was thinking.

Still I think that's too much town power?

[beeboy]

8 scum*

[PeregrineV]

Just in case anyone missed 3129:

Night 1: Satoko/Rika and Pisskop (Alisae) are the same color
Night 2: Satoko/Rika and Keychain are the same color
Night 3: Sesq and Random are the same color
Night 4: Keychain and Something_Smart are the same color

and

Night 5: Keychain and Vaxkiller are not the same color

VOTE: Vaxkiller

Based on this, and the claims so far, I'm also OK with lynching something_smart. They are claimed VT, and their flip will confirm Keychain one way or another.

[beeboy]

Unless Rask blocked the kill we are lynching JJH.

[Vaxkiller]

@key @rask Need ur opinions on this.

If schadd is telling the truth it HAS TO BE

alch/beeboy

, if hes lying then its:

RED
Paint Mixer
1 shot 4 person RB
Yellow cop
Goon

Yellow
"goon" (In colour flipping neighborhood)

Hard town:
Keychain T varnish
Vaxkiller T eats purples
Raskolnikov T

?

West9 Prob town color parity check
Something_Smart Prob town VT


Smocaine VT Prob town less than west9 and SS


jjh927 VT
PeregrineV roleblocker that paints people red
Alchemist21 red cop
beeboy VT

[beeboy]

OK GUYS SO LET ME EXPLAIN.

So if PV and JJH are clear for the same reason and PV has a guilty on JJH.
That means schadd IS NOT a reliable source for honest results as PV's genuinely having guilty and Schadds results CANNOT coexist.

Does anyone not follow?

Vax do you not follow