lmfao literally dino's final postIn post 851, Mathdino wrote:Scumreads are {hebichan, mollie, UT}.
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like i feel like my entire game was just being simultaneously shit on by the entire goddamn town while the scum buddied me until they were FORCED to lynch me to get rid of my reads
i was the single most active player in the game with the most accurate reads
that's not me being an arrogant bitch in general (i have godawful reads in a lot of games)
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i'm a little bit vindicated because espeonage got lynched by horrible reads while he couldn't defend himself
just like i was LOLHAMMERED WHAT EVEN
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I dunno I feel like this pretty much lines up with mineIn post 1199, Mathdino wrote:i'm actually legitimately disappointed in you guys based on your reputations- Mathdino
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i mean that's the thingIn post 1203, Untrod Tripod wrote:
I dunno I feel like this pretty much lines up with mineIn post 1199, Mathdino wrote:i'm actually legitimately disappointed in you guys based on your reputations
to me, the entire scum basically scumclaimed
my reads are not usually this good, but everyone else obvtowned and you guys obvscummed
napoleon was a policy deadline lynch, so that was whatever
i made my preference very clear on D1 that i wanted hebichan to be the lynch but that would've gotten me killed
i really don't know what i could've done differently this game, this was peak mathdino in terms of reads/activity- Mathdino
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also we need to talk about geriatric games
because i felt like the mod was plenty active
and the last time i played geriatric, i felt like it actually helped town because a lot of the players were fairly active in general, and were forced to condense their information into smaller posts
this game was awful for it though
like the inactivity absolutely ruined all 4 days
my high activity turned me into a "the tallest nail gets the hammer" parable :/- Kublai Khan
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Um.. For someone throwing a lot of shade at the rest of the game, you could brush up on your ability to effectively communicate. As much as your reads happened to be good, you couldn't lead people out of a burning building. Just a mess of bad logic and angry squelches.In post 1201, Mathdino wrote:like i feel like my entire game was just being simultaneously shit on by the entire goddamn town while the scum buddied me until they were FORCED to lynch me to get rid of my reads
i was the single most active player in the game with the most accurate reads
that's not me being an arrogant bitch in general (i have godawful reads in a lot of games)
but that is me saying that you guys had 0 justification for treating my slot the way you did
Although yeah, the inactivity was horrible. Town lost more than scum won.Occasionally intellectually honest
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kublai, i play in certain ways that lead me to win games in the current meta
the VCA pointed to my scumteam
the interactives pointed to my scumteam
and i had solid PoE that also pointed to my scumteam
i have, in every other playerlist as town, corralled lynches
the logic was good, that's why it was right
the "angry squelches" were admittedly a "don't mislynch me" ploy and that's legitimately what got me enough townreads to survive past D1
so i'm not taking your criticism as especially constructive- Mathdino
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like, 90% of the time, my charisma >>> my reads
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oh while we're at it cooldog was the only scum on my wagonIn post 601, Mathdino wrote:I believe that given my contributions and activity, scum were purposefully avoiding my wagon because of the terrible optics of it. If there IS scum on my wagon, I actually think it's Cooldog, who started it for questionable reasons and kind of just voteparked it the whole day.
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Well yeah. That's my issue. Maybe I'm just really out of sync with whatever the current meta but "don't lynch me" is a massive red flag. It's why I couldn't ever really read you as town.In post 1207, Mathdino wrote:the "angry squelches" were admittedly a "don't mislynch me" ploy
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that part's not on me though!
like it's your responsibility to either have good reads or recognise good logic that works on the current meta :/
and i never ignore my scumreads until they literally claim scum. unless you have absolutely amazing reads (which no one does), ignoring your scumreads ends up ignoring town almost every single game
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surely someone should or would have picked up the fact that at least one out of three of mathdino's scumreads were correct. someone should have picked up he was actively solving, or perhaps, his tone and large ability in trying to get the town to stop lurking. perhaps the wagon composition being absolutely shit or anything equal to it. the wagon having built on napoleon also being completely organic and showing somewhat that math believed his reads. perhaps his tone in general.In post 1212, Kublai Khan wrote:If you're going to yell at town for not following you, then it kinda is on you to be more followable. Blame goes two ways.
idk, there was a lot to talk about with mathdino, and it feels everyone went the lazy route with him. i think there's a lot less blame to be attributed to someone when their wagon is pushed by scum and by townies who refuse to look into a deeper picture that goes past surface level reads.- Mathdino
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KTS, my wagon was, at the end of Day 1, literally all town plus the serial killerIn post 1213, Killthestory wrote:idk, there was a lot to talk about with mathdino, and it feels everyone went the lazy route with him. i think there's a lot less blame to be attributed to someone when their wagon is pushed by scum and by townies who refuse to look into a deeper picture that goes past surface level reads.
the thing is, on D2, i gamesolved that, saying repeatedly "if there was any scum on my wagon yesterday, it's cooldog"
i actively pushed the people who townread me on D1 because it felt fake (i couldn't push them super hard on D1 because i knew they'd just lynch me for it)
and that was the point where the entire scumteam jumped on my wagon
i'm honestly really not sure how titus didn't pick up on that VCA- Killthestory
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it happens. sometimes players just need to take a step back and say "whoa, hold on a second, this doesn't feel right." your wagon obviously wasn't natural and was chaotically construed. inactivity was a large killer of this, i think, but i think that surface level explanations of why you could be scum perhaps might delve into that, too. i think you might have been a little too reactive at the same time towards players. as a good thing, it helped you develop your reads, but it made you come across as a pressured wolf at times. idk, like i said, you might get that one game where you get mislynched when you feel your obv villa.- hebichan
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did I ever ask anyone to not lynch me?In post 1207, Mathdino wrote:the "angry squelches" were admittedly a "don't mislynch me" ploy and that's legitimately what got me enough townreads to survive past D- Mathdino
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it's just always the older players that scumread me and it's likeIn post 1215, Killthestory wrote:it happens. sometimes players just need to take a step back and say "whoa, hold on a second, this doesn't feel right." your wagon obviously wasn't natural and was chaotically construed. inactivity was a large killer of this, i think, but i think that surface level explanations of why you could be scum perhaps might delve into that, too. i think you might have been a little too reactive at the same time towards players. as a good thing, it helped you develop your reads, but it made you come across as a pressured wolf at times. idk, like i said, you might get that one game where you get mislynched when you feel your obv villa.
i can't please everyone even if i want to figure out how to
the town wasn't invested in this game at all and it showed
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i mean yeah you staying off my wagon the way you did was what made you obvscum to me in a wayIn post 1216, hebichan wrote:To be fair, yeah, your read were a problemmm
I feel like I played really well though, considering I had no confidence in my game.
Also on mathdino's wagon... that was all town, I was stepping as far away as that as I could.
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lol gamma not picking meIn post 9, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm town yeah
I legit targeted you because I figured you were the best one to help me get a handle on the game- hebichan
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Also molly not getting lynched when she slipped like three times with varsoon, and Elton always getting like so close to lynch after day 1. I setmyself up to bus Elton a few times and then for whatever reason someone else came up and I didn't have to.
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