VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Varsoon]

D3 ACTIONS:

Reasonably Rational commits to piloting the Qubeley.
Skybird uses the 240MM CANNONS on Gamma Emerald.
Titus commits to piloting the GP02
Iconeum uses the 240MM CANNONS on Gamma Emerald.
Gamma Emerald commits to piloting the Big Zam.

[Varsoon]

N3 ACTIONS:

Skybird tracks Firebringer -- Firebringer took no action
Gamma Emerald uses the Large Mega Particle Cannon to kill Baku and Munna -- Success
Titus uses AE/ZIM.G-BAZ-0186-A ATOMIC BAZOOKA on the Crossbone Vanguard -- Success, Loud
Chara tracks Gamma Emerald -- Success
Iconeum tracks Chara -- Success
Nancy Drew 39 defects to the Titans -- Success
SnarkySnowman prevents Dunnstral from taking any actions -- Success
Baku and Munna prevents Dunnstral from taking any actions that negatively affect other players, Loud modifier -- Success, Loud
Skybird is the first factional Kill -- Redirected by Gamma Emerald to Baku and Munna
Purple Heart is the second factional Kill -- Success



PILOTING:
Reasonably Rational - Qubeley
Skybird - Guncannon
Titus - GP02
Iconeum - Guncannon
Gamma - Big Zam
Creature - Psycho Gundam

[Varsoon]

SPECTATOR THREAD:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75417

SCUM PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75400

HYDRA PT - SHINING DREAMERS:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75402

HYDRA PT - MAID CAFE:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75403

HYDRA PT - BRONYA ZAYCHIK:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75404

HYDRA PT - REASONABLY RATIONAL:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75405

HYDRA PT - TIBOR AND LUMIA:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75406

HYDRA PT - BAKU AND MUNNA:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75407

JOURNAL PT - ONTHEMARK:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75411

BEST FRIENDS PT - (DUNNSTRAL):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75806

BEST FRIENDS PT - (CREATURE):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75782

BEST FRIENDS PT - (GAMMA EMERALD):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75757

BEST FRIENDS PT - (NANCY DREW 39):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75754

BEST FRIENDS PT - (PURPLE HEART):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75556

BEST FRIENDS PT - (REASONABLY RATIONAL):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75566

BEST FRIENDS PT - (MAID CAFE):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75567

BEST FRIENDS PT - (BRONYA ZAYCHIK):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75568

BEST FRIENDS PT - (ALMOST50):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75569

BEST FRIENDS PT - (VENMAR):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75582

BEST FRIENDS PT - (SKYBIRD):

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75590

BAKU AND MUNNA & REASONABLY RATIONAL PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75495

BAKU AND MUNNA & MAID CAFE PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75497

BAKU AND MUNNA & VENMAR PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75498

SPECTRAL PROCESSION PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75503

MTG - VALAKUT PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75377

UNDERTALE - CATTY AND BRATTY PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75552

UNDERTALE - GRILLBY'S PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75557

GUNDAM - EARTH FEDERATION PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75866

GUNDAM - AEUG PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75867

GUNDAM - ZEON PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75868

GUNDAM - TITANS PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75876

GUNDAM - PARLIAMENT AT DAKAR PT:

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75928

(I'll make these public when I get the chance to)

[Varsoon]

Once again, I apologize.
I was relying on a lot of my own credibility to help people get over the initial theme change, but it seems like I couldn't live up to that credibility.
I was really excited for the L5R setup and I might just run it as a standalone, perhaps.
Anyway, thoughts?

[OnTheMark]

Thanks Varsoon for running it as far as you did.

I won’t be able to really type much til after work.

[Cerberus v666]

ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game.

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though.

Random, why did you have to be bad?

[Cerberus v666]

Also...I didn't look at the whole setup, but Varsoon: What portion of the town could I have cleared via having them target me and getting beamed if we had used the thing that kept scum from using their mechs?

[Varsoon]

@Cerb: It'd only soft-clear people with day actions, since the [BEAM] votes wouldn't be around for the following day phase. You'd only really be able to soft-clear Nancy Drew and Snarky Snowman, as the Guncannons and Hyaku Shiki would disable your Mobile Suit. Even then, this is making the assumption that no player could've put a [BEAM] vote on you during the day, which I really should've given scum the player-based ability to do. Instead, I strapped them with loud pro-town abilities. The idea was that, in this phase, scum would be putting out false positives. Didn't really happen. Scum also had some degree of counterplay, given they could shut down the day phase.

[Titus]

ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game.

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though.

Random, why did you have to be bad?

I think I would have before hand. I know I was town but Gamma scum has to lock me in as town anyway. There's no way to get there from his perspective. I actually suspected Gamma shot his buddy and was hoping Chara was relaying to help me sort it out fwiw.

[NicoRobin]

Can I pre-in for Varsoon game users game?

[Varsoon]

Can I pre-in for Varsoon game users game?

If it ever happens, sure?

[Varsoon]

I should also note that Scum did get to decide which, and how many, of their members ended up at the Parliament.
Here's their Strategems:

Welcome to the Strategem Phase for Gundam Mafia. You have 48 hours to vote for a Spacenoid Stratagem. Failure to do so will result in no Stratagem being implemented.
Your choices for Day 3, UC 0087 are as follows:

Operation Stardust : Players vote to end the Day Phase rather than lynch. The Scum team controls two unstoppable kills at Night.
Minovsky Particle Proliferation : Every single Non-Factional Non-Strategem PT is permanently locked; the remaining PTs (including Scum PT) become Night Chat only for the rest of the game.
Treaty at Granada : The Day Phase is reduced to 48 hours in length.

And their factionals:

Factional Abilities:

(ANY THEME) :

Each Night phase, a member of this faction must decide on a player to kill. This killing action does not count against your normal actions restrictions.

(ANY THEME) :

You may chat in this thread at any time.

(UNDERTALE MAFIA) :

During the Pacifist Route, your faction controls a factional ability to target a player at Night and cause their Night Actions to fail.

(UNDERTALE MAFIA) :

During the Genocide Route, your faction controls a factional ability to target a player at Night and learn what their role is.

(GUNDAM MAFIA) :

Your factional kill is submitted independent of any player and does not count as an action that any player takes--it can also never fail.

I ended up stacking a lot of power on both sides of this game, eeeeh.

[Varsoon]

Although I do feel that having the scum kill be an independent kill that can't be tracked back to a player (as a public mechanic) could lend itself well to setups that have trackers/watchers/motion detectors. You'd do away with the issue of being able to absolute confirm someone as scum.

[Cerberus v666]

@Cerb: It'd only soft-clear people with day actions, since the [BEAM] votes wouldn't be around for the following day phase. You'd only really be able to soft-clear Nancy Drew and Snarky Snowman, as the Guncannons and Hyaku Shiki would disable your Mobile Suit. Even then, this is making the assumption that no player could've put a [BEAM] vote on you during the day, which I really should've given scum the player-based ability to do. Instead, I strapped them with loud pro-town abilities. The idea was that, in this phase, scum would be putting out false positives. Didn't really happen.

*nods*

Yeah, I figured it would be soft-clearing only, but just didn't know the numbers. Only 2 works, since that's a small enough pool to minimize the value. Had it been like 4 or 5, then I could have reasonably inferred that scum didn't have a huge number of beam votes to throw around, so it would have been functionally the same as the parliament thing in terms of creating a pool that potentially contained a limited number of scum.

How did you choose the membership of the parliament?

pedit: Already answered!

[Cerberus v666]

Did scum know about future phases/theme changes in advance?

[Varsoon]

No, scum were in the dark and only got new role cards, factionals, and info with the start of each new theme.

[Cerberus v666]

ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game.

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though.

Random, why did you have to be bad?

I think I would have before hand. I know I was town but Gamma scum has to lock me in as town anyway. There's no way to get there from his perspective. I actually suspected Gamma shot his buddy and was hoping Chara was relaying to help me sort it out fwiw.

Yeah, the problem with the Chara thing was that he ACTUALLY SAW HIM REDIRECT. :-/ I don't really understand why he actually shot his buddy as well as did a redirection action though, it sorta looks like(based on actions taken, not on roles, which I haven't dug into yet) that there could have been 3 scum kills that night?

*shrug* Maybe things aren't as they appear. I did forget that Gamma was part of the Parliament though, so that would have made it more likely he wouldn't live as long....

[Yume]

Bummer then.....

I was looking forward to playing it.....

[Randomnamechange]

ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game.

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though.

Random, why did you have to be bad?

bad at the game or scum? both are valid questions

i got kind of demotivated when i got caught for making a mechanical paly that didn't benefit me at all tbh
rly cool concept tho, look forward to playing in your next game varsoon
town deserve the win tbh, we were never gonna win it

[Cerberus v666]

ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game.

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though.

Random, why did you have to be bad?

bad at the game or scum? both are valid questions

i got kind of demotivated when i got caught for making a mechanical paly that didn't benefit me at all tbh
rly cool concept tho, look forward to playing in your next game varsoon
town deserve the win tbh, we were never gonna win it

Bad as in why did you have to roll scum???

Not bad in the game etc. Yeah, the whole hood creation thing with the timing and stuff was too much of a technical play for the specific individuals you were targeting at least. Had you made hoods with less active/attentive players you'd have been good I think? I didn't notice the timing myself at first because I was so shocked at getting screwed out of my next question.

If it's not covered in the scum PT, why did you guys go with that whole line anyways? With the quicklynch etc?

[Micc]

Sorry I had to replace out of this one. I thought I could maybe handle a large with the flavor being my biggest hobby. Turns out larges still aren’t my thing and the magic flavor didn’t last long anyway. I had the game bookmarked and was loosely following. Sorry to see it get abandoned because it looks like Varsoon put a ton of time into making it.

[Varsoon]

I'd been bouncing this theme-swapping concept around for awhile, and was thinking it would be really cool to build a setup (or collab with 2 other mods) where 3 different setups are rotated constantly. Players would vote on which one they wanted to change to next, with the rule that no setup could happen twice in a row. Each setup would have dynamically changing roles and features, similar to how these first 3 setups worked.

[Randomnamechange]

ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game.

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though.

Random, why did you have to be bad?

bad at the game or scum? both are valid questions

i got kind of demotivated when i got caught for making a mechanical paly that didn't benefit me at all tbh
rly cool concept tho, look forward to playing in your next game varsoon
town deserve the win tbh, we were never gonna win it

Bad as in why did you have to roll scum???

Not bad in the game etc. Yeah, the whole hood creation thing with the timing and stuff was too much of a technical play for the specific individuals you were targeting at least. Had you made hoods with less active/attentive players you'd have been good I think? I didn't notice the timing myself at first because I was so shocked at getting screwed out of my next question.

If it's not covered in the scum PT, why did you guys go with that whole line anyways? With the quicklynch etc?

i wasnt involved in the QL decision
my teammates got antsy and thought the wagon would dissolve, i came online and saw they hammered, panicked and created my hoods bc getting mana and towncred with hooding you was too good to pass uup

[Cerberus v666]

ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game.

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though.

Random, why did you have to be bad?

bad at the game or scum? both are valid questions

i got kind of demotivated when i got caught for making a mechanical paly that didn't benefit me at all tbh
rly cool concept tho, look forward to playing in your next game varsoon
town deserve the win tbh, we were never gonna win it

Bad as in why did you have to roll scum???

Not bad in the game etc. Yeah, the whole hood creation thing with the timing and stuff was too much of a technical play for the specific individuals you were targeting at least. Had you made hoods with less active/attentive players you'd have been good I think? I didn't notice the timing myself at first because I was so shocked at getting screwed out of my next question.

If it's not covered in the scum PT, why did you guys go with that whole line anyways? With the quicklynch etc?

i wasnt involved in the QL decision
my teammates got antsy and thought the wagon would dissolve, i came online and saw they hammered, panicked and created my hoods bc getting mana and towncred with hooding you was too good to pass uup

Ah.

Hmm. That wagon DID have a high probability of dissolving, so that was a valid concern. I don't think any of them would have been next in line though, so unless they were universally terrified of the effect Mastina/Yume would have had on things+didn't want to shoot them i don't think it dissolving was something to be too concerned about.

[Randomnamechange]

yeah i wasnt a fan