Scum's job is to avoid being lynch and to drive mislynches..
I a little bit disagree with this - scum's job is merely to avoid being lynched.
He's not only pushing a hard mislynch as scum but also gaining attention by pushing someone who's widely townread
Do you mean that Lex pushed for your lynch?
I would argue the exact same thing could be applied to you - Lex is/was widely townread (he's still town to me but I see there's a lot of doubt by other players. At the start of the phase I didn't see anybody scum reading Lex though. I think it really only came up when you came in. I don't really know tbh) but that's who you're also pushing for, yes?
I don't know if I town read you. I had your slot as POE town with Gamma/Elbirn as scum. If Elbirn flips green then we are probably in LYLO if we're not already there. I'll do a mass re-read and re-evaluation at that time.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:04 pm
by Sky_Paladin
I'm falling asleep at my keyboard so I'll hammer here and call it a night.
Scum's job is to avoid being lynch and to drive mislynches..
I a little bit disagree with this - scum's job is merely to avoid being lynched.
He's not only pushing a hard mislynch as scum but also gaining attention by pushing someone who's widely townread
Do you mean that Lex pushed for your lynch?
I would argue the exact same thing could be applied to you - Lex is/was widely townread (he's still town to me but I see there's a lot of doubt by other players. At the start of the phase I didn't see anybody scum reading Lex though. I think it really only came up when you came in. I don't really know tbh) but that's who you're also pushing for, yes?
I don't know if I town read you. I had your slot as POE town with Gamma/Elbirn as scum. If Elbirn flips green then we are probably in LYLO if we're not already there. I'll do a mass re-read and re-evaluation at that time.
yeah.. so I guess I'm town since I did that?
It's not about me though we're talking about elbirn but kek you just hammered him so
How'd you use poe to townread someone not active?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:49 pm
by Sky_Paladin
It was mainly from interactions between HS/Brian towards Gamma and Elbirn, and how DLE-slot was basically disengaged from it. As highlighted in this post.
if you ISO me and just look at it through this day phase you can also see where I first flagged Gamma as scum because of his position on Nico and where I was trying to do anything to get somebody to post.
If I die overnight;
If Elbirn flips scum - I think good odds his buddy is Gamma; or Shattiel, given how hard Shattiel worked to save Elbirn from being lynched and literally nobody else did. I don't think it could realistically be Katy or Titus.
If Elbirn flips green - probably putting Gamma to town, and I will re-evaluate Titus/Lex/Shattiel. If I fast forward to the next phase in my head with a green flip on Elbirn, I will then want to take a look at the votes on Elbirn and how they got there. Because with five players required to lynch a sixth, the only player off the wagon is Shattiel and 100% of votes are engaged. So that's worth reflecting on.
I also want to make it clear that I don't townread Shattiel despite their continued insistence that everybody townreads her.
In post 1853, Sky_Paladin wrote:Given that only one card can be used per phase, there is some value in knowing whether Lexa or Titus should use their card in the upcoming night phase.
If we fail to lynch Shattiel they also have a vig that they will certainly use, preventing either of you from using your cards.
Mine is a day card. I have decided based on Lexa's responses that I will likely need to use it to force a lynch. Lexa will just spam out good lynches if I do not. It's a dick move but we cannot no lynch.
"forced a lynch" if Titus is scum then we're fked already
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:02 am
by Shattiel
I do have a similar second ability like that besides a vig.
Scum should be thankful I didn't used it in the day I pretty much have a kill switch to lynch more than 1 player and even all players.
There are no players with more than one spell cards in this setup.
I do have a similar second ability like that besides a vig.
Scum should be thankful I didn't used it in the day I pretty much have a kill switch to lynch more than 1 player and even all players.
This is why you should have read the game.
How do you have 'a second ability'?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:08 am
by Shattiel
Hope we can fast forward the night though instead of 48 hours.
It's partly the reason why I got impatient and used my skill
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:09 am
by Sky_Paladin
@Gamma/Titus
I think probably Shattiel fakeclaimed there and so that should be an auto-kill.
But just in case it's something else, I'll clarify my vote.
Kiana has been locktown to me since day 1.
Gamma has been in my townreads, and went scummy yesterday, but with Elbirn flipping green, there's no basis for my scum read on him anymore.
Shattiel posted a lot and made a lot of activity but they didn't really push any angle and were conveniently off the lynch.
And last but not least, they appear to have vigged Lexa immediately at the start of the night phase without considering the implications of a green flip on Elbirn.
There are no players with more than one spell cards in this setup.
I do have a similar second ability like that besides a vig.
Scum should be thankful I didn't used it in the day I pretty much have a kill switch to lynch more than 1 player and even all players.
This is why you should have read the game.
How do you have 'a second ability'?
A vig and -2 lynch votes required to lynch.
It's was prettty destructive right now