Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Brian Skies]

Ok I'm all caught up

Brian Skies is easily the scummiest player in the game and should be wagoned/lynched

You did the same thing in Gay Mafia and we were both town. Learn a new trick or I'm voteparking you.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: mulch

actually this is boring.
VOTE: brian skies

and now this. I don't like ausuka's progression. calls brian town, brian wonders if he is being pocketed, which is inherently a towny thought to have, and after an interaction in which brian does not appear particularly wolfy ausuka is voting brian? that's something now isn't it. not that I like brian's posts otherwise, but this ausuka progression is wolfy. townreads from nowhere, OMGUSing when convenient. kinda wolfy?

I like this because I felt similarly regarding my interactions with her.

I didn't see anything from my posting up until that point that was worthy of a townread from someone, and I've never played with her before so I doubt it was a meta read. I also think that if she really had a reason to think I was town, there would either have been some sort of explanation as to why she was townreading me or that she wouldn't have been so quick to 180 her read and vote me.

I believe Cheeky also had a similarish progression.

[Quick]

Why do I feel like Brain is Mathdino?

[Brian Skies]

Town
Beeboy
Creature
Toranaga
Nero
Gork
Grey

Less Town
The Worst
Maybe Quick - I could easily make a case against this slot, but I don't really believe this will flip scum.

No Idea
Everyone Else

Slight Scumlean
Srceen - My gut says otherwise, but I feel like this post is unnecessarily nitpicky (and I feel like that's more of something scum might do). I'm also not getting good vibes from his hardtunnel on the Quick slot. So it's probably more appropriate to put him here even though

Sketchy
Ausuka
Cheeky

Scumleans
Brigand
Hopkirk - I'm not confident on this being scum, but I do get the placating, and I didn't really get the greatest vibes in his push on me (he didn't even answer my question to him). Feels a lot like 'poking and running away', if that makes any sense.

VOTE: Hopkirk

[Brian Skies]

Why do I feel like Brain is Mathdino?

Probably because my avatar is based on his.

[Quick]

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

was I wrong, Brian?

I'm town, I just don't think I've done anything worthy of a townread.

then why are you making remarks instead of voting me?

Should I be voting you?

if you scumread me, which you claim to, it follows you should be voting me.

that depends on your other reads.

OK sure...

I'm guessing you have the worst ISO in the game on a cursory search.

VOTE: Ausuka

[CheekyTeeky]

@Cheeky:

In addendum to the above, why do you think me asking about parity is a towntell?

I was trying to be lowkey about a noob asking about their role, but looks like that's not the case here. I remember not knowing what parity was when I was a parity cop with Tor lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ausuka, how is it mean to scumread people? Assuming roles are randomly distributed, surely you have as much chance of drawing scum as I do (although slightly higher chance of knowing if you did). So is it mean to say "you were randomly selected for the scumteam?" Do you think that Mulch assigned scum preferentially to people he disliked? Or is this just an appeal to emotion?

Wtf is even this line of questioning?

[Toranaga]

@Ausuka: why town Creature?

engaged Creature is town Creature, always.

this is extremely early to tell and feels like TMI to me

as someone who has a perfect record of reading Creature (and it's not like I'm the only one who can read him), you're wrong.

I also have a perfect record of reading creature, but I tend to wait until he starts playing to do so. otherwise it just feels like you're a wolf with TMI, delivering your perfect info townread on someone you know is going to be townread anyway.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't really understand what you mean by willful misdirection, unless you think I'm insinuating multiball, to which I've already made a response regarding that here:

Yeah that felt like a stretch to me too. Nero goes down Brian goes up.

[Toranaga]

Ausuka, how is it mean to scumread people? Assuming roles are randomly distributed, surely you have as much chance of drawing scum as I do (although slightly higher chance of knowing if you did). So is it mean to say "you were randomly selected for the scumteam?" Do you think that Mulch assigned scum preferentially to people he disliked? Or is this just an appeal to emotion?

Wtf is even this line of questioning?

indeed

cheeky, what do you think of greyice?

that feels SvS even. the grey/ausuka interaction.

[Brian Skies]

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

was I wrong, Brian?

I'm town, I just don't think I've done anything worthy of a townread.

then why are you making remarks instead of voting me?

Should I be voting you?

if you scumread me, which you claim to, it follows you should be voting me.

that depends on your other reads.

OK sure...

I'm guessing you have the worst ISO in the game on a cursory search.

VOTE: Ausuka

I'm fine with the different responses because I feel like the circumstances for the two situations are different.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ausuka, how is it mean to scumread people? Assuming roles are randomly distributed, surely you have as much chance of drawing scum as I do (although slightly higher chance of knowing if you did). So is it mean to say "you were randomly selected for the scumteam?" Do you think that Mulch assigned scum preferentially to people he disliked? Or is this just an appeal to emotion?

Wtf is even this line of questioning?

indeed

cheeky, what do you think of greyice?

that feels SvS even. the grey/ausuka interaction.

Why SvS? Let me ISO him real quick.

[Nero Cain]

Yeah that felt like a stretch to me too. Nero goes down Brian goes up.

I swear to god you are an idiot.

[Brian Skies]

Assuming roles are randomly distributed, surely you have as much chance of drawing scum as I do

This is particular seems like a weird thing to say.

[Nero Cain]

though you being scum isn't impossible either eh.

[Toranaga]

Ausuka, how is it mean to scumread people? Assuming roles are randomly distributed, surely you have as much chance of drawing scum as I do (although slightly higher chance of knowing if you did). So is it mean to say "you were randomly selected for the scumteam?" Do you think that Mulch assigned scum preferentially to people he disliked? Or is this just an appeal to emotion?

Wtf is even this line of questioning?

indeed

cheeky, what do you think of greyice?

that feels SvS even. the grey/ausuka interaction.

Why SvS? Let me ISO him real quick.

to give you an example, remember mathdino not knowing how to interact with other wolves when he was playing with our hydra? he was making posts like these to us. the amount of self awareness you're talking with a scumbro was out of this world.

I find the post wolfy regardless, and conditional reads like that normally fail, but it does ping me that way...

[Toranaga]

Yeah that felt like a stretch to me too. Nero goes down Brian goes up.

I swear to god you are an idiot.

speaking of idiots, where's that death tunnel you promised me?

[Nero Cain]

look kid, I get that I hurt your feelings but you aren't nearly as important as you think you are. Sorry, not sorry.

[Toranaga]

look kid, I get that I hurt your feelings but you aren't nearly as important as you think you are. Sorry, not sorry.

how did you hurt my feelings exactly?

so... no death tunnel? awww was looking forward to the cringe. tho you're providing cringe regardless, so maybe I didn't miss much.

[CheekyTeeky]

Well his ISO is garbage. Bad entrance but not sure if scummy bad. Ausuka push seems bandwagony seeing as hes contributed eff all and pop's in to interrogate one of the players under heavy suspicion in what feels like a disingenuous way. Contrary to Ausuka though he's not lacking tone.

Also in reading his ISO I think Hopkirk might be town this game. Check it out it's not long.

[Toranaga]

greyice's ISO is trash but I feel like that first post isn't really something mafia writes?

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah that felt like a stretch to me too. Nero goes down Brian goes up.

I swear to god you are an idiot.

Strong argument.

[Toranaga]

Well his ISO is garbage. Bad entrance but not sure if scummy bad. Ausuka push seems bandwagony seeing as hes contributed eff all and pop's in to interrogate one of the players under heavy suspicion in what feels like a disingenuous way. Contrary to Ausuka though he's not lacking tone.

Also in reading his ISO I think Hopkirk might be town this game. Check it out it's not long.

I saw this and decided to hit enter anyway cause I had the same fucking thoughts on grey's ISO

muh hydra partner :~

we should have hydrad for this if we're going to have the same thoughts anyway

[CheekyTeeky]

greyice's ISO is trash but I feel like that first post isn't really something mafia writes?

I don't see how it makes sense as either alignment tbh.