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Post Post #6400  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:44 pm

Glowball also pretended to waffle on Ank, Nos, and Math with a lot of AtE so they'd see the benefit of keeping me around for endgame once I was pretty positive that Math was a straight up LIAH

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Post Post #6401  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:10 pm

I did enjoy reading through the PTs and find that my style of play was not widely understood at all.

If I can explain...

The role I got was weird as shit. I did not initially want to believe I wasn't alone, so the claim and call for my own lynch was genuine. After most of the reactions came in I didn't see anything that actually had me convinced I had a partner so you me back off my own lynch and start pushing Math more and more- who let me just say I had pegged immediately upon replacing in.

I actively chose not to roleblock on a night and instead claim false results (I added and excluded details to draw out info and get people on spec) to divert attention to the possibility of another blocking/protective PR.

I had to AtE at the end because after Math used up my revive and I was confirmed there was literally nothing keeping the wolves from killing me, with so many people dead, except the possibility that I could be swayed. Hardcore calling for Math to be left until the final day ensured that the most active of scum thought they would have me pocketed and easily manipulated. Why would he kill a townie basically arguing against him being vigged? It was obvious Muffin, Tor, and Math were the wolves at that point so it genuinely didn't matter what order we got them in and that was basically what I was trying to get through to Nos- like just let me have this. Luckily it worked out, I blocked Math with no hesitation on the final night- trusting Nos to do his thing, but either way guaranting I saw endgame.

Done.

It was fun. I thought every night I'd be dead and yet, they kept me alive. GG <3

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Post Post #6402  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:15 pm

Also...I think confirming me to Gamma was probably not the way to go about it tbh. They could have just switched the performance of the kills.

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Post Post #6403  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:17 pm

you fooled me at least

I was really really trying to get you to see my side LOL
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Post Post #6404  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:21 pm

I saw it- but if I acted certain as a confirmed "townie" they'd kill me for sure.

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Post Post #6405  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:37 am

In post 6396, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6391, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not you

i don't want to win scum games by walking over a town who doesn't give a fuck about anything

i don't consider that accolade worthy

i don't hype my ability to beat said towns who don't give a fuck about anything

i want to have a good game of mafia and win it via good play.


And that is good play.

To be universally townread

To not help town out of their demise while they fuck up is the literal definition of good play.

Bussing without an inherent answer or cred is anti scum.


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Post Post #6406  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:52 am

Congrats winners! Thanks for replacing into the slot Oath.
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Post Post #6407  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:52 am

Also thanks for running the game, mastina.
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Post Post #6408  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:25 am

I'm glad I like, put myself on the rope when I did. Having nos shoot me and flip overnight could have easily balanced things differently.

Nos had really good reads but holy crap he is not diplomatic.

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Post Post #6409  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:38 am

In post 6406, Keychain wrote:Congrats winners! Thanks for replacing into the slot Oath.

Np : )

In post 6408, hebichan wrote:Nos had really good reads but holy crap he is not diplomatic.

In the end I think he was quite considerate of what I asked. He didn't have to shoot Muffin over Math, but it was kinda nice he did.

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Post Post #6410  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:20 am

In post 6405, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 6396, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6391, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not you

i don't want to win scum games by walking over a town who doesn't give a fuck about anything

i don't consider that accolade worthy

i don't hype my ability to beat said towns who don't give a fuck about anything

i want to have a good game of mafia and win it via good play.


And that is good play.

To be universally townread

To not help town out of their demise while they fuck up is the literal definition of good play.

Bussing without an inherent answer or cred is anti scum.


U lost this game mathblade
not me


I made a few mistakes yes.

However bussing a fucking universally townread teammate is freaking dumb.
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Post Post #6411  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:21 am

In post 6409, glowball wrote:
In post 6406, Keychain wrote:Congrats winners! Thanks for replacing into the slot Oath.

Np : )

In post 6408, hebichan wrote:Nos had really good reads but holy crap he is not diplomatic.

In the end I think he was quite considerate of what I asked. He didn't have to shoot Muffin over Math, but it was kinda nice he did.


Yeah it was. :/ It didn’t matter but mainly I was trying to angle for kill Nos convince you.
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Post Post #6412  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:21 am

But since Nos unkillable IC vig it didn’t matter
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Post Post #6413  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:30 am

In post 85, Nosferatu wrote:then again the fact that ank has lived for so fucking long is obscene


Idk why me living to endgame was especially an issue

I didn't start being right about everything until it was blindingly obvious
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Post Post #6414  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:31 am

In post 6351, mastina wrote:Anemia: Whenever you successfully drain a player, they will be informed: "You are feeling lethargic."

Yeah you forgot this the second time he targeted me
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Post Post #6415  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:35 am

In post 6371, mastina wrote:Then there's how the vampire removing PT access can lead to a false innocent.

Didn't realize that worked like that. Interesting.
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Post Post #6416  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:37 am

In post 6376, Creature wrote:Wow

Four wolves in a row

Great comeback here

Hooray for reverse sweep?
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Post Post #6417  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:40 am

In post 6379, mastina wrote:Not trusting in their moderator-given safeclaims, with the exception of Toranaga who was advised that the devourer was a risky claim. (I gave that mostly as an, "If you manage to get caught red-handed as the killer, here's your explanation as to why" claim, a desperation-based claim, more than a to-default claim.)

Yeah, claims done when you're caught red handed generally fail, but that is not the worst instance. I had a scum mate in my first ever scumgame claim vigilante on a kill that no vigilante should have ever made. Needless to say, they got powerlynched.
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Post Post #6418  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:42 am

In post 6391, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not you

i don't want to win scum games by walking over a town who doesn't give a fuck about anything

i don't consider that accolade worthy

i don't hype my ability to beat said towns who don't give a fuck about anything

i want to have a good game of mafia and win it via good play.

says the person who like to play to never lose
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Post Post #6419  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:49 am

In post 6408, hebichan wrote:Nos had really good reads but holy crap he is not diplomatic.

diplomacy pales in the face of destiny my friend
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Post Post #6420  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:34 pm

Nosferatu is basically me but he's always set to the "really just so done" setting
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Post Post #6421  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:14 pm

Town had an unlynchable unkillable IC, a full cop that had follow the cop (the only caveat to follow the cop was having scum losing PT access they could not pick), a self-confirming bulletproof.

I was forced to fakeclaim onto the cop to get any chance of a lynch.

This game should have never been approved. The creativity was there but not balance.

For instance, Nos became conftown when we lynched the mafia traitor. That wincon needed to be redacted.
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Post Post #6422  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:21 pm

In post 6414, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6351, mastina wrote:Anemia: Whenever you successfully drain a player, they will be informed: "You are feeling lethargic."

Yeah you forgot this the second time he targeted me


Nah, it was just beneath the role pm in your results pm. Skimming the role pm you probably missed it, but it would’ve been interference to remind you at that point.
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Post Post #6423  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:37 pm

In post 6421, Titus wrote:Town had an unlynchable unkillable IC, a full cop that had follow the cop (the only caveat to follow the cop was having scum losing PT access they could not pick), a self-confirming bulletproof.

I was forced to fakeclaim onto the cop to get any chance of a lynch.

This game should have never been approved. The creativity was there but not balance.

For instance, Nos became conftown when we lynched the mafia traitor. That wincon needed to be redacted.


Again, the cop was balanced by ~7 millers, a 1 night godfatherizer and a millerizer. The vig was conftown only because you never janitored in the early game, you know, when that role is useful AND the entire scumteam endorsed the nk immune miller vig role as town. For the sake of argument though, this game would not have changed had he been, say, ascetic.

Did you get screwed over by variance in this game? Sure. Was the game itself inherently unbalanced? No.
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Post Post #6424  (ISO)  » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:09 pm

Only the scumteam thought the PT cop was at all strong

Everybody else thought it was nearly useless
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