SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Chara]

i hate all of this because i've been working too much to get a good read on the situation.
but i am fairly confident Deas is town now when i wasn't before, so that's a good thing.

also i'm townreading Fire and still suspicious of NoName. luckily we have a week and i finally have a day off tomorrow to sort myself out.

Why are you townreading fire?

kind of a personality read. scum is winning right now (if you think this is false, please tell me) and i don't think this is how he would respond to that if scum. but i'm still looking.

[Dunnstral]

and i don't think this is how he would respond to that if scum.

What does that mean? Like what did he do

[ManWithNoName]

He claimed a guilty then only added that it could be wrong afterwards. I still think that it's a scum play with "Oh, my role that I didn't disclose until someone Cc'ed me caused a false guilty

[Fire Assassin]

No, that isn't correct.

Also i really don't feel like going into this game alot.

Espeonage and Dunnstral are town. Lynch me if you want.

If MariaR is still alive at LYLO lynch her with no questions.
No way she lives till then being a cop.

[Errantparabola]

Prodding Espeonage.

Votecount 3.6

Commander Shepard

(4): Fire Assassin, Dunnstral, Shoshin, Vaxkiller

Fire Assassin

(4): Espeonage, ManWithNoName, the worst, MariaR

Shoshin

(2): Punreader, Commander Shepard

Not Voting

(2): Chara, DeasVail

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-21 13:08:00)

[MariaR]

Jokes on you EP you can't prod me I'm at 1 23

both wagons are good keep at it.

[Errantparabola]

i dont

want

to have to prod people

[the worst]

oh god how did i get to 48 hours don't prod me

[Dunnstral]

I still think FA is the wrong play today, we can go after him later

[ManWithNoName]

I still think FA is the wrong play today, we can go after him later

Who is the right play then, and if it's Commander Shepard or Shoshin can you also explain why without using the term lighting rod?

[Espeonage]

Prod came down and I am glad to see that FA is at tipping point.

[DeasVail]

I’m really not sure, but:

VOTE: Commander Shepard

[Commander Shepard]

Prod dodge sorry some food I had in the mess hall is not agreeing with me.

[ManWithNoName]

@Mod my fiancee and I just broke up, I'm going to be a mess for a few days, just replace me please.

[Commander Shepard]

i dont

want

to have to prod people

Like holyshit.

Where the fuck is everyone?

[Errantparabola]

I'm sorry that happened to you. Please take care of yourself. Looking for replacement now.
Sending out prods now.

[Shoshin]

I'm not sure what else to say at this point in the game.

I still think Shepard's the best lynch today.

[Punreader]

Many apologies. I thought I had another day before being prodded. I was planning on posting today regardless to reset the prod meter. Just now it's out of necessity rather than preference.

Pun, why do you think Shepard is town?

Experience.

I have played with Commander Shepherd, and I know for a fact you have, too. I know precisely the type of moonlogic he uses and how he goes on the crazy tirades he does.

I can also differentiate between him genuinely doing so, faking having done so, and genuinely doing so but still being pun anyway. All three have signature telltale signs. When the process is faked, it sticks out like a sore thumb and I can instantly nail him for it. When he is genuine but still pun anyway, there is an indigence in that he feels like he was caught for bullshit reasons: "right, for the wrong reasons".

Neither of those is present and I can thus say that this is his town self with absolute confidence.

...Also I am privy to his neighborhood talk so there is that as well.

Additionally, I felt Nahdia was playing to their town meta, and that ActionDan was playing to his town meta before that.

The slot has been solid the whole game across all three slots, but only in ways obvious to someone with extensive experience with them.

[Commander Shepard]

I'm not sure what else to say at this point in the game.

I still think Shepard's the best lynch today.

Shoshin

Let’s assume for a second we have played together.

Let’s assume for a second you don’t think I am terrible as scum.

It’s confirmed there are two cop claims a vig claim and an inno all going into night.

If you truly believe I am scum then why the fuck would I leave all of that open?

And on top of that shift all attention to myself the next day intentionally. I work best as scum when universally townread.

Now why would scum!me make what looks to be a dumb kill and before night ends beg to die?

I am not stupid. People voting me have 0 respect for my scum game. And right now that kill points to inexperienced or inactive scum.

[Punreader]

I know precisely the type of moonlogic he uses and how he goes on the crazy tirades he does.

I can also differentiate between him genuinely doing so, faking having done so, and genuinely doing so but still being pun anyway. All three have signature telltale signs. When the process is faked, it sticks out like a sore thumb and I can instantly nail him for it. When he is genuine but still pun anyway, there is an indigence in that he feels like he was caught for bullshit reasons: "right, for the wrong reasons".

To further explain, because I know precisely the type of logical reasoning he uses, I can follow his thought process along perfectly the entire time. There is never a point where, when he is genuine, I will be confused at how he got to his conclusion.

While his conclusions will always make me facepalm as I know exactly the points where his reasoning goes from reasonable to absurd, I can still follow the process from start to finish, and know that there were no leaps too extreme to have been made sincerely. These changes may seem difficult to follow at first, but once you know how his mind works, it's quite easy.

And I can confidently say, I've been putting myself in his shoes. I know he's wrong for numerous reasons from the fact doctors

do

protect against all kills, my kill is dependent on him being ranked lower than me when he is almost assuredly ranked higher than me (thus only necessitating the explanation of Vaxkiller's failure, which is easily explained as him being roleblocked), and similar facts.

But while I know he's wrong, I can follow precisely how he came to those conclusions step by step, including why he believes things that are objectively wrong. I know him well enough to know that he would never deliberately intentionally lie about a provable fact, such as mafia theory. Thus, mistakes such as stating a doctor can only protect against a single kill I know are regardless of his alignment going to have been sincere.

[the worst]

oh hold on Punreader is making sense. Pun can you determine what the fuck the n2 shenanigans were about and whether or not we can get any valuable information from it?

MWNN slot is town until further notice.

VOTE: Shoshin

[Shoshin]

I'm not sure what else to say at this point in the game.

I still think Shepard's the best lynch today.

Shoshin

Let’s assume for a second we have played together.

Let’s assume for a second you don’t think I am terrible as scum.

It’s confirmed there are two cop claims a vig claim and an inno all going into night.

If you truly believe I am scum then why the fuck would I leave all of that open?

And on top of that shift all attention to myself the next day intentionally. I work best as scum when universally townread.

Now why would scum!me make what looks to be a dumb kill and before night ends beg to die?

I am not stupid. People voting me have 0 respect for my scum game. And right now that kill points to inexperienced or inactive scum.

What would you have done as scum after replacing your slot? What's your plan to get universally townread?

[Commander Shepard]

I'm not sure what else to say at this point in the game.

I still think Shepard's the best lynch today.

Shoshin

Let’s assume for a second we have played together.

Let’s assume for a second you don’t think I am terrible as scum.

It’s confirmed there are two cop claims a vig claim and an inno all going into night.

If you truly believe I am scum then why the fuck would I leave all of that open?

And on top of that shift all attention to myself the next day intentionally. I work best as scum when universally townread.

Now why would scum!me make what looks to be a dumb kill and before night ends beg to die?

I am not stupid. People voting me have 0 respect for my scum game. And right now that kill points to inexperienced or inactive scum.

What would you have done as scum after replacing your slot? What's your plan to get universally townread?

I would have been very appealing towards people who have wrong reads for the right reasons. I would make some townie with atrocious reads the town leader. Take a look at Shadowrun. I took my slot which was a bit suspected due to a single misspeak (not slip mind you as it could have come from town) and buddied the only person alive who heard it and the doctor to always navigate around protects. In Gistou my advice single handedly slaughtered the other scum team in one night due to town kills and I was strongman vigged for never being able to be lynched because so townie. I was so Townie mastina (who is awesome and I only say this to make a point not to attack someone who isn’t here) made a mod mistake and gave someone an investigative result of my fake claim and I wasn’t suspected. They started attacking each other.

Scum is much easier when other townies do the mislynching for you. Then you just let the narrative write itself.

In this case I am trying to figure out this game. Find me someone I have been buddy buddy towards. You fucking can’t.

[Commander Shepard]

And fuck I just outed my alts damn it

I am MathBlade/OnTheMark.

Fuck :/

[Dunnstral]

I still think FA is the wrong play today, we can go after him later

Who is the right play then, and if it's Commander Shepard or Shoshin can you also explain why without using the term lighting rod?

The right play is someone I'm not tring to some degree who isn't a cop claim

UNVOTE: CommanderShepard since punreader convinced me