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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:41 pm

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In post 747, Blind Bandits wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what's wrong lovely/ies?
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:44 pm

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In post 709, jjh927 wrote:
Central Park

skitter30: 1 vote

33% district turnout
skitter30 wins!



Mayfair Club

Ruby Red: 1 vote
Edosurist: 1 vote
FIGHTING DREAMERS: 1 vote

100% district turnout
Ruby Red wins!



Turns out I'm an idiot lol.

FIGHTING DREAMERS: 3 votes
Ruby Red: 2 votes
Whemestar: 1 vote

120% district turnout
FIGHTING DREAMERS wins!



Coney Island

FIGHTING DREAMERS: 2 votes

67% district turnout
FIGHTING DREAMERS wins!



Theme Park

Whemestar: 3 votes
Ruby Red: 2 votes
Not Known 15: 1 vote

100% district turnout
Whemestar wins!


Overall voter turnout is ~95%.




FIGHTING DREAMERS has been elected president with a majority of 2 out of 5 districts!


The term will last until (expired on 2018-06-25 23:10:00) from now or until a decision is made on who or whether to lynch.
It's not a majority of they only one 40% of the districts mod, get this straight
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:46 pm

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Omg autocorrect butchered that
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:50 pm

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In post 737, Invisibility wrote:oh wait @mutant
123 voted completely randomly
he said so in party PT
Eh, it wasn't completely random. Some people had a more likely chance of being selected than others. And some people (like Wheme and Tazaro) didn't make the list at all because I thought they would be really bad presidents. (Like, really really bad.)
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:51 pm

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Central Park
Aronis
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Mayfair Club
FIGHTING DREAMERS (the worst / SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis hydra)
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Ruby Red

Turns out I'm an idiot lol.
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Ruby Red

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Central Park
skitter30: 1 vote - Mutantdevle

33% district turnout
skitter30 wins!

Mayfair Club
Ruby Red: 1 vote - Ruby Red
Edosurist: 1 vote - 123456789
FIGHTING DREAMERS: 1 vote - Fighting Dreamers

100% district turnout
Ruby Red wins!

Turns out I'm an idiot lol.
FIGHTING DREAMERS: 3 votes - Tazaro, Edosurist (?), Tazaro/Edosurist (?)
Ruby Red: 2 votes - Ruby Red, Hebichan
Whemestar: 1 vote - Myloninja13

120% district turnout
FIGHTING DREAMERS wins!

Coney Island
FIGHTING DREAMERS: 2 votes - Invisibility, Skitter30

67% district turnout
FIGHTING DREAMERS wins!

Theme Park
Whemestar: 3 votes - Firebringer, WhemeStar, Wraith
Ruby Red: 2 votes - Ausuka, Blind Bandits
Not Known 15: 1 vote - Not Known 15

100% district turnout
Whemestar wins!

Overall voter turnout is ~95%.

I want to think that the above is what happened on election day.
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:55 pm

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I demand a recount
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:03 pm

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In post 648, skitter30 wrote:I wasn't *super* following that game except for when math decided I was someone's alt, so you're saying that you got them later there and that you think you'll be able to figure them out later on here?
(More or less.)
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:05 pm

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The users who voted in fighting dreamers have made a powerful enemy today.
We might not have won this election but you can be assured you will pay when we take the means of shitposting and distribute them to the masses you elitist pigs
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:09 pm

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so to summarize:

Spoiler:
In post 709, jjh927 wrote:Central Park
skitter30: 1 vote

33% district turnout
skitter30 wins!
lol ok

given that mutant claimed this, this implies that aronis/nico didn't vote (or, at least, didn't vote for a valid player in the game)
In post 709, jjh927 wrote:Mayfair Club
Ruby Red: 1 vote
Edosurist: 1 vote
FIGHTING DREAMERS: 1 vote

100% district turnout
Ruby Red wins!
ruby claimed her vote, FD presumably voted for themselves, and ircher apparently lolvoted for edo
In post 709, jjh927 wrote:Turns out I'm an idiot lol.
FIGHTING DREAMERS: 3 votes
Ruby Red: 2 votes
Whemestar: 1 vote

120% district turnout
FIGHTING DREAMERS wins!
OK, so there's only five players in this district (edo, taz, hebichan, mylo, ruby), and six votes:
edo claimed to not vote
taz seems to be implying they voted FD ()
hebichan voted for ruby
mylo voted for wheme
ruby voted for herself.

So we have four claimed votes for six announced votes, and we're missing two FD votes. I'm guessing at least one person frauded for FD here. It doesn't really make sense for ruby to have, and I feel like mylo wouldn't really do that? And hebi voted for ruby so frauding for FD is just ???? So I guess that either taz frauded, or edo voted but lied about it, or there's some mechanic that enables people to fraud outside of their district, or hebi voted ruby but frauded for FD, or soemthing else entirely. But we need two of these things to hold true in order to explain the vote spread.
In post 709, jjh927 wrote:Coney Island
FIGHTING DREAMERS: 2 votes

67% district turnout
FIGHTING DREAMERS wins!
me and invisbility voted FD and iconeum's slot was still empty.
In post 709, jjh927 wrote:Theme Park
Whemestar: 3 votes
Ruby Red: 2 votes
Not Known 15: 1 vote

100% district turnout
Whemestar wins!
Wheme, fire, wraith voted for wraith, nk voted for himself, and I guess ausuka and blind bandits voted for ruby


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In post 728, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 709, jjh927 wrote:
Central Park

skitter30: 1 vote

33% district turnout
skitter30 wins!
i keep looking at this and i just get so fucking mad

or maybe disappointed
lol I didn't campaign or run and I got just as many districts as you did.

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In post 731, mutantdevle wrote:Actually, before I got, HURT: 123456789.

They have NO reason to vote Edosurist. They've barely mentioned them all game and when they have they've always disagreed with them.

Now, why 123456789 and not Edosurist who is in the double voting scum lynch pool? Well, it's still possible that Edosurist is town and this is scum trying to frame them by double voting and having an 'anonymous' vote on Edosurist hence trying to pin them as mafia. Alternatively, Edosurist IS scum with 123456789. Either way, the common link is 123456789.
I'm a little weirded out that he claims he didn't vote but his district is still missing a vote *even if he did*. Like even if he's just lying about voting there's still something fucky going on in that district.

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In post 743, Wraith wrote:No amount of state repression will destroy the dream of the shitposter's paradise
I feel like you're just kinda like *being* and it's almost like absolving yourself of doing anything useful by pushing a shitposting platform. (p-edit, firebringer too, although from what I know of him that's kinda inline with his personality in general)

what are your thoughts on dreamers?

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In post 753, 123456789 wrote:Eh, it wasn't completely random. Some people had a more likely chance of being selected than others. And some people (like Wheme and Tazaro) didn't make the list at all because I thought they would be really bad presidents. (Like, really really bad.)
I mean, did you think that edo had a chance of getting it? Why do you think edo would have been a better president than, say, wheme or taz?
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:19 pm

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In post 758, skitter30 wrote:I mean, did you think that edo had a chance of getting it? Why do you think edo would have been a better president than, say, wheme or taz?
It was more or less me not paying too much attn to Edo. As far as to getting it, no, I didn't think it likely.

Wheme is too busy having fun versus actually getting scum lynched. That makes for a bad president.
Tazaro was being kinda crazy earlier in the game, and that makes me uncomfortable in trusting a vote in their hands; they seemed like the kind of people that would impulsively lynch someone just for disagreeing with them or having a playstyle that irritates them; i.e.: for policy reasons and policy reasons alone.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:22 pm

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In post 759, 123456789 wrote:Wheme is too busy having fun versus actually getting scum lynched. That makes for a bad president.
Having fun is apart of the game

Getting scum lynched is also something I’d do because the president you guys elected is scum
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:24 pm

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In post 750, FIGHTING DREAMERS wrote:
In post 747, Blind Bandits wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what's wrong lovely/ies?
RUBY RED WAS A GOOD HONEST CANDIDATE GOD DAMN IT
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:25 pm

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Too honest and to pure

They would be easily corrupted
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:26 pm

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Spoiler: Reads
Confirmed Town
(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Ircher (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town
(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town
(60%-84% Confidence)

Null
(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Iconeum/Ofrhz (0%) - Has only one post that is "Hi".

NicoRobin (0%) - Has done more or less nothing so far.

Wraith (-5%) - I don't see any good way to read this slot atm given the 100% devotion to having fun and 0% devotion to looking for scum.

Aronis (-10%) - I didn't like the way he started jumping on people for claiming town using the crier ability despite what everyone else was saying.

Firebringer (-15%) - I get the gut feeling he is scum this game. I mean, Firebringer always trolls a lot, but I feel like he is doing it at the sole exclusion to forming real reads this game, which suggests to me he is scum. (As in, I feel like he makes *some* effort to gamesolve as town, even admist all of his trolling.)

Neutral
(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Myloninja13 (+40%) - I'm not a huge fan of the beginning of the ISO, but nothing really sticks out there. The claim is quite obviously believable and biases me towards this slot being town.

Skitter30 (+31%) - Nothing really suggests scum to me from this slot atm but I'm kinda bad at reading slots that make large posts, especially early on.

Hebichan (+31%) - More or less the same comment as I had for Skitter30, except that in this case, the posts aren't large. It's just that there really isn't anything notable one way or the other about Hebi's posts.

Edosurist (-48%) - I have strong reason to suspect that they voted for Fighting Dreamers twice, and I think that alone is suspicious. Aside from that, something seems off about the ISO (on a gut level).

Leaning Scum
(60%-75% Confidence)
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Likely Scum
(76%-100% Confidence)

Spoiler: How to read this readslist
Players are placed in different sections based on my confidence in the read expressed as a percentage. A positive percentage indicates that I leans towards town on a player whereas a negative percentage indicates I lean towards scum on a player. Please note that the Null an Neutral sections contain both townreads and scumreads and you must look a the sign of the percentage in parenthesis to determine which way I lean.

Confidence ratings are rough estimates and are relative to one another. In addition, they tend to be scored on a logarithmic scale versus a linear scale; in other words, the difference between 0% and 30% tends to be greater than ther difference between 30% and 60%.


I'll get to the rest of the people in this game later.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:27 pm

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U didnt say who the scum in rubys party is

because it isnt ausuka or nicorobin or hebi or us
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:28 pm

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Oh sweet

Ircher is confirmed scum
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:29 pm

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Oh wait nvm
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:30 pm

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Oh, and that read lists covers me looking back at ISOs.

Gut and general vibes suggest:
Fighting Dreamers may be town. It really isn't the best time at the moment to try to read their slot.
Ruby Red is probably arrogant town.
Ausuka feels town this game.
Blind Bandits idk.
Tazaro is probably insane town this game.
WhemeStar is idk; maybe lol!town?
Mutant feels townish imo (?)
Not Known 15 may be scum?
Invisibility idk.

I think that more or less covers everyone.

Pedit: What???
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:34 pm

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NOTHIN DONT WORRY BOUT IT
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:11 pm

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I think NK15 is probably town honestly.
mylo prolly also town
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 763, 123456789 wrote:I get the gut feeling he is scum this game. I mean, Firebringer always trolls a lot, but I feel like he is doing it at the sole exclusion to forming real reads this game, which suggests to me he is scum. (As in, I feel like he makes *some* effort to gamesolve as town, even admist all of his trolling.)
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:50 pm

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Yes, I'm 123456789's highest town read (Other than themself)! I'm getting all the townreads!
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:01 pm

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In post 763, 123456789 wrote:
Spoiler: Reads
Confirmed Town
(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Ircher (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town
(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town
(60%-84% Confidence)

Null
(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Iconeum/Ofrhz (0%) - Has only one post that is "Hi".

NicoRobin (0%) - Has done more or less nothing so far.

Wraith (-5%) - I don't see any good way to read this slot atm given the 100% devotion to having fun and 0% devotion to looking for scum.

Aronis (-10%) - I didn't like the way he started jumping on people for claiming town using the crier ability despite what everyone else was saying.

Firebringer (-15%) - I get the gut feeling he is scum this game. I mean, Firebringer always trolls a lot, but I feel like he is doing it at the sole exclusion to forming real reads this game, which suggests to me he is scum. (As in, I feel like he makes *some* effort to gamesolve as town, even admist all of his trolling.)

Neutral
(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Myloninja13 (+40%) - I'm not a huge fan of the beginning of the ISO, but nothing really sticks out there. The claim is quite obviously believable and biases me towards this slot being town.

Skitter30 (+31%) - Nothing really suggests scum to me from this slot atm but I'm kinda bad at reading slots that make large posts, especially early on.

Hebichan (+31%) - More or less the same comment as I had for Skitter30, except that in this case, the posts aren't large. It's just that there really isn't anything notable one way or the other about Hebi's posts.

Edosurist (-48%) - I have strong reason to suspect that they voted for Fighting Dreamers twice, and I think that alone is suspicious. Aside from that, something seems off about the ISO (on a gut level).

Leaning Scum
(60%-75% Confidence)
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Likely Scum
(76%-100% Confidence)

Spoiler: How to read this readslist
Players are placed in different sections based on my confidence in the read expressed as a percentage. A positive percentage indicates that I leans towards town on a player whereas a negative percentage indicates I lean towards scum on a player. Please note that the Null an Neutral sections contain both townreads and scumreads and you must look a the sign of the percentage in parenthesis to determine which way I lean.

Confidence ratings are rough estimates and are relative to one another. In addition, they tend to be scored on a logarithmic scale versus a linear scale; in other words, the difference between 0% and 30% tends to be greater than ther difference between 30% and 60%.


I'll get to the rest of the people in this game later.
what was the point of this

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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:37 pm

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I am very disappointed in how this election turned out, town coordination wise.
Yes I voted for myself(who else, without coordination possible?). Without coordination the president election is a mess.
I told you all we should coordinate votes before, and now THIS happened.
Please do not make this failure again. Let's publicly decide on the president before election day.

At least we have a scumclaim with the 120% voting turnout.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:35 am

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In post 736, hebichan wrote:Also, edo claimed not to vote....

so how are there 3 FD votes in our district?

Actually what the hell?

even if we assume there's a double vote for FD there's still one missing vote.
In post 682, Edosurist wrote:Prod received.
I'm sorry I was a bad citizen and didn't fulfill my civic duty. Weekend got ahead of me.
Well, Edo's comments are blatantly lying. Unless, of course, there are 2 mafias amongst the rest of them, both of who voted twice, one of which voted for 2 different people. <-- yeah that doesn't seem likely at all.

@Edo, why are you lying to us?
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