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Post Post #2525  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:47 am

In post 2524, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh and btw.
Don't expect to read every post every person makes on a large game, I literally cant never remember literally everything every person does, and then when someone asks me "What is your read on X?" and i realize i dont remember anything X has done im just like "who is that again?" and it can even be one of the top posters, I just dont ever remember everything, because im a dummy and i dont keep notes.

When the game has shrunk down by all the kills and lynches then it's much easier for me to remember people and so solving the game becomes easier.


That’s true for me as well. I almost never get scumread lategame.

Thing with Nancy is we just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it.

(I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
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Post Post #2526  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:52 am

In post 2523, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Well that’s why I was confused because I was hard townreading you before you did that 180 and It seemed to come on so suddenly. I can understand why my sudden claiming pinged you but not a complete 180 but I started to think again you were town after I clicked on that Mylo link Wisdom posted because you were so polished in that game.

My 180 on you was because buddying is my blind spot, specially when im being pushed (as I was explaining to ank earlier), when brian brought the possibility you were buddying i started looking at your posts differently and thought you were faking the naivety, although i've literally never seen someone who believes everything they see as face value as you do (and according to dead PT neither does muffin), I used to firmly believe that someone with a town role PM would never lie (this was very early in my days of mafia), until i learned about people doing gambits and reaction tests, etc.

Suffice to say, up to this day i dont know what people ever see scummy in me, it doesnt help that people seem to think i have some uber awesome scum game that can literally fake everything, like, literally wisdom was saying "oh she can fake that as scum too" "oh she does that as scum as well", like literally what, reads is literally the hardest thing for me to fake when im scum (and probably wisdom should've known that im more likely to go for lynchbait or a bus than push someone being strongly towning like nancy).

Another thing is that, I cant for the life of me ever use night actions wisely because I hardly know how to use a role other than something like doctor or cop, never know the optimal way to go about night actions and i've mentioned and shown this before in several other games, anyone that has read any Scum PTs from when im scum should also know that, I as scum, suck at any sort of planning ahead, or devising some sort of scum plot to destroy everyone or coast to endgame. And it baffled me that people could have seen what I've been worried about this game, and see "oh that makes sense".

In the end it comes to the fact that every single game I play I just get scumread for no reason, any reason ppl townread me for is immediately deflected with "she does that as scum too", and I end up just crying or something because "people cant see that im town", and I start feeling lonely and hate everyone, and then I just want out of mafia, so that it never happens again (Even tho I keep coming back anyway)
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Post Post #2527  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:59 am

Welcome to my world Kaede

I can be town as fuck, but every single time the exact person I need to be town reading me is scumreading me

Or I'm not town as fuck but still getting scumread for really bizarre reasons that either are NAI or missing the point of what I'm doing
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Post Post #2528  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:05 am

Also:
In post 31, Wisdom wrote:dont tell me how to distance with my buddies

bet you wont suspect im scum with kaede now

LOL

(But yes wisdom has made jokes like this one before)
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Post Post #2529  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:05 am

In post 2470, Wisdom wrote:at least i read kokichi and kaede (eventually) right for once
ill count that as a plus


Sorry again for reading you wrong, but I just thought you were acting different. I swear you're always town hahaha
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.

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Post Post #2530  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:08 am

In post 2494, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh and Kokichi, I didn't defend myself because I didn't even know how to do so. I was literally kinda frozen up in that regard because I didnt even know why people were scumreading me to begin with. All I remember is that I felt like the world was against me and I just kind of gave up.


SOrry I should have stuck with my original read. hopefully i'll get better.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.

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Post Post #2531  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:09 am

s/o to Katsuki for carrying this win and Mastina for hardclaiming scum day 1 by her claim.

Katsuki I'm going to nom you for a scummy, that Ank lynch pretty much won us the game
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Post Post #2532  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:12 am

His pride/ego got in the way leading to him blatantly opposing my every move. He was doing his best to play for scum so you can't really be faulted for reading him thus.

p-edit: yay~
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Post Post #2533  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:15 am

Btw as I was reading the dead PT.
@muffin: If I believed mastina was a Night 2 vig, that's one thing, i would believe a town mastina was that, but a scum mastina saw purr's role and decided to "pretend" she shot purr, considering Ankamius JK Purr and she would've known what ankamius was doing anyway, never crossed my mind mastina was a scum N2 vig. All I thought was "Well the shot went missing so if she's scum, she's not a N2 vig"
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Post Post #2534  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:17 am

Also
muffin and cupcake rolled both town this game?!
BLASPHEMY!
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Post Post #2535  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:20 am

zMuffinMan wrote:dont think it was based on arrogance, per se

just poe

and a bit of wrong-headedness from cupcake about mastina


He claimed literally the same targets on the same nights i did, save for N1 which was a "forgot", which i found it sus at the very least, didnt have any other major reason for it.
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Post Post #2536  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:22 am

Oh speaking of, do you know another secret of mine?
I actually tend to forget my own reads when people ask me for reads list of the sort I have to ISO myself to remember who im reading what and why.

I really need to fix this memory problem I have in large games.
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Post Post #2537  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:23 am

Fix my can't-get-reads problem too
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Post Post #2538  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:27 am

In post 2534, Sakura Hana wrote:Also
muffin and cupcake rolled both town this game?!
BLASPHEMY!


Inorite? I'm surprised Wisdom never brought this up f9r his surefire scumcase on me
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Post Post #2539  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:30 am

Gamblers Fallacy my friend.
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Post Post #2540  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:34 am

The funniest thing is that Tracking Watchers feel so Normal to me now after playing so much Throne of Lies.
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Post Post #2541  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:12 pm

I've never come across this exact role before, but I did use it albeit split between two masons in cupcake mafia. It's quite a fun role which allowed for flexibility in claims. Thanks for the role and modding as usual, FG!
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Post Post #2542  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:14 pm

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Post Post #2543  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:13 pm

In post 2529, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2470, Wisdom wrote:at least i read kokichi and kaede (eventually) right for once
ill count that as a plus


Sorry again for reading you wrong, but I just thought you were acting different. I swear you're always town hahaha

i promise you wont notice a thing when ill be scum :wink:

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Post Post #2544  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:06 pm

Thanks for playing everyone!

I will run the sequel shortly!
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Post Post #2545  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:27 pm

GG town was fun to play with you all. At least I was correct on a lot of my townreads and mastina scum besides that my play was rather poor.
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Post Post #2546  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:34 pm

was there some thematic reason role names were revealed at day start?
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Post Post #2547  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:38 pm

In post 2546, zMuffinMan wrote:was there some thematic reason role names were revealed at day start?

Dream is the first song in Deemo game.

Other than that, revealing a non-Main Character each day was one of the ways to give an edge to the scum team.
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Post Post #2548  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:49 pm

Was I supposed to be looking to claim my role?
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Post Post #2549  (ISO)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:17 pm

Well darn.

I knew this was a loss, I knew that power roles could fuck me over, but I was hoping to at least give the town a good show, be all sportsman like and give them a challenge where they'd have a few mislynches here and there. I KNEW I was killing a VT, I KNEW Nosferatu and Katsuki were both power roles, I KNEW that leaving both alive would risk fucking me over, but I still was hoping for more than this. Was hoping intentionally killing a VT instead of a power role would generate enough confusion and disarray to stop the stomp.

Ah well.

No problem with releasing the PT.

And by the way--people are more than free to use this as a reference for my scum meta; that way, they'll be utterly fucked over when they encounter a game where I actually cared. :P (I told Ginngie from the onset: this was her fault; she invited me to a game I otherwise would never have played, so she got what she bargained for. :P)

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