Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Toranaga]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

but why would you be almost sure of this? why would elsa jay -not- do this as scum? because i'm fairly sure even he would say this is p much exactly what his scum game would look like

I never said that believing your claim was towny. I said it was not scummy. I said elsa's posts outside of that part are towny, and I'm townreading him tonally when he is concerned people are voting you.

just re-read what I said to you.

[ruru]

votecount

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Toranaga (2):	RadiantCowbells (82),	Skygazer (88),
Malakittens (2):	Elsa Jay (15),	Toranaga (91),
Elsa Jay (1):	CheekyTeeky (41),
TPFKAP (1):	Flicker (63),
RadiantCowbells (1):	the worst (67),
Not voting (10):	Toogeloo,	NicoRobin,	TPFKAP,	Chickadee,	Thor665,	BuJaber,	Reasonably Rational,	randomidget,	northsidegal,	Malakittens (90),

(expired on 2018-10-16 02:00:00) remain.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Toranaga

[Malakittens]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

hes not new though

but i give you a 10/10 for effort though

[the worst]

Captain's Log: Entry 1

Occupant RadiantCowbells seems to have decided too throw any good will i had with their Mason claim by calling me scummy.

Occupant is also causing a ruckus with my assumed ally,Toranaga.

Cautionary measures may have to be taken. We may have to gag and tie then up.

omglol<3

VOTE: toranaga

baa

actually wolfy

welcome to larges Flicker!! \o/
do you find any content in the last 3 pages to be interesting or alignment indicative?

Thanks!

So far, not a lot seems AI to me. The only things I really feel right now are:

• - Elsa seems towny (in an "aggressively try to solve the game ASAP even though that feels silly to me" way).
  - Toogeloo's reveal of role PM info also seems towny.
  - Cheeky is towny? I don't know if this is a gut feeling, or if I just want it to be true because of her avatar or something. (The same could be said about you, too, tw.)

I also lol'ed at Toranaga's Yugioh reference, but I'm not sure if that's what you mean by interesting...

Pedit: Tora seems towny in defending Elsa, too.

Pedit2: FWIW, I'm probably not gonna try to sort RC this game unless I have to (at Mylo/Lylo). I've seen enough to know that I don't know anything when it comes to his play.

yay I agree about Elsa and Toog so far!!
why is Tora's defence of Elsa towny fypov? do you strongly disagree with RC's call that it's TMiey?

[CheekyTeeky]

in a Multiball game

Has it been confirmed that this is a multiball?

[Malakittens]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

but why would you be almost sure of this? why would elsa jay -not- do this as scum? because i'm fairly sure even he would say this is p much exactly what his scum game would look like

I never said that believing your claim was towny. I said it was not scummy. I said elsa's posts outside of that part are towny, and I'm townreading him tonally when he is concerned people are voting you.

just re-read what I said to you.

yet being concerned people are voting RC could be scum faking acting as tone

your arguments suck

[Toranaga]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

hes not new though

but i give you a 10/10 for effort though

if he is not new, he is not from a time where people opened with fake claims, or he wouldn't react like he did regardless of alignment.

[the worst]

i'll bbl need to work harder! o7

[Elsa Jay]

in a Multiball game

Has it been confirmed that this is a multiball?

Not yet, but considering the Mod had in the rules that there are multiple killing mechanics, we're 95% sure. We Even talked about it in the sign up thread.

[Malakittens]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

hes not new though

but i give you a 10/10 for effort though

if he is not new, he is not from a time where people opened with fake claims, or he wouldn't react like he did regardless of alignment.

Please tell me this is not why you're actually town reading him.

[Reasonably Rational]

Hello everyone.

NSG is my mason buddy

Plausible by flavor. Implausible by play. Plausible because RC would know that it would be considered implausible by play, and thus COULD do it as a real mason, knowing it wouldn't be believed by anyone, and would generate interesting reactions.

*shrug*

Conclusion: Ignore pending NSG response, which, imo, shouldn't actually happen. Yeah.

NSG: Don't respond to that shiz if you're town. If you're scum, fuck it, feel free to do whatever the fuck scum do.

Why would I not beleive it unless North denied it?

I'm trying too get my leads here, RC. If a Mason feels like claiming, no reason to not believe yet.

Yeah, I don't really agree with this line of reasoning. D1 mason claim, at the very start of the day, ESPECIALLY from a player who's been around the block and plays loose with the truth as town...doesn't seem like someone someone should automatically assume is true.

Do you automatically believe every claim made early on D1? If I had opened the day with "I'm a cop(or hell, any investigative other than nearly useless shit ones), please protect me" would you actually believe that to be the case?

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

but why would you be almost sure of this? why would elsa jay -not- do this as scum? because i'm fairly sure even he would say this is p much exactly what his scum game would look like

I never said that believing your claim was towny. I said it was not scummy. I said elsa's posts outside of that part are towny, and I'm townreading him tonally when he is concerned people are voting you.

just re-read what I said to you.

RC, level of familiarity with Elsa Jay?

-Cerb

[Toranaga]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

but why would you be almost sure of this? why would elsa jay -not- do this as scum? because i'm fairly sure even he would say this is p much exactly what his scum game would look like

I never said that believing your claim was towny. I said it was not scummy. I said elsa's posts outside of that part are towny, and I'm townreading him tonally when he is concerned people are voting you.

just re-read what I said to you.

yet being concerned people are voting RC could be scum faking acting as tone

your arguments suck

but you made no counterpoint here. yes it can be scum acting faking towny stuff, that's not my read into it.

[CheekyTeeky]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

hes not new though

but i give you a 10/10 for effort though

if he is not new, he is not from a time where people opened with fake claims, or he wouldn't react like he did regardless of alignment.

He is from that time. He's also from a time of RC fake claiming as either alignment.

Particularly bad is that RC claimed masons with NSG who he can read accurately very well...but he did it before she posted, so rather than the mason claim coming from a towny POV where one town player tries to save another, it's more likely to come from early game self-preservation that shows TMI on NSGs alignment, if it's a fake claim.

So either it's a fake scum claim or the claim is real. A goid way to find out is to pressure the claimant (hence mala is town) or let it play out (hence elsa is scum for intercepting the reactions to votes and assuming it's true, taking a particularly LAMIST approach).

[RadiantCowbells]

i was mostly announcing my intent to sheep NSG if I end up townreading her.

[Toranaga]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

hes not new though

but i give you a 10/10 for effort though

if he is not new, he is not from a time where people opened with fake claims, or he wouldn't react like he did regardless of alignment.

Please tell me this is not why you're actually town reading him.

I said many times now I'm not townreading him for this. I disagreed it was scummy, because it's not scummy. I'm townreading elsa cause he feels genuine in every post of his that I read.

[Reasonably Rational]

Well I tried.

Anyway, voting up a dude who claimed to be in a Masonry?

Now admittedly, because this is (probably) Multiball he COULD theoretically be scum. But voting him?

VOTE: Malakittens

Obviously you COULD be joking, but this seems like a decent start.

Also, umm.

This is a pretty shit vote too.

-Cerb

[RadiantCowbells]

anyway see you later.

ultra mega dayvig: reasonably rational

drixx scares me sry you have to go

[Reasonably Rational]

it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure

hes not new though

but i give you a 10/10 for effort though

if he is not new, he is not from a time where people opened with fake claims, or he wouldn't react like he did regardless of alignment.

He is from that time. He's also from a time of RC fake claiming as either alignment.

Particularly bad is that RC claimed masons with NSG who he can read accurately very well...but he did it before she posted, so rather than the mason claim coming from a towny POV where one town player tries to save another, it's more likely to come from early game self-preservation that shows TMI on NSGs alignment, if it's a fake claim.

So either it's a fake scum claim or the claim is real.

A goid way to find out is to pressure the claimant (hence mala is town) or let it play out (hence elsa is scum for intercepting the reactions to votes and assuming it's true, taking a particularly LAMIST approach).

Or it's town RC doing town RC things that don't actually make sense to anyone but RC!

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

anyway see you later.

ultra mega dayvig: reasonably rational

drixx scares me sry you have to go

!! Must answer my question before you kill us!!!!!



I'm not scary? Boo. I knew there was a reason I kept Drixx around...

-Cerb

[CheekyTeeky]

i was mostly announcing my intent to sheep NSG if I end up townreading her.

I figured but I'm coming from the viewpoint on page 1 that everyone is arguing over.

[Malakittens]

It's an over dramatic serious response to a post that shouldn't even be taken super serious considering it's RC. I love RC, but he's a guy that plays off other people's reactions. Unless he's changed his playstyle in 2 years+.

Again, I don't see where someone who's been playing for over a year would blindly believe RC and think it's a real mason claim like off the bat. Then attack people for voting RC in a RVS stage.

I can't tell if you, Tora, are defending Elsa because you think elsa is a newbie that can't defend himself or it's motivated some other way.

the fact you say he's someone who didn't play with people who opened with fake claims. I wouldn't know how the site played back in 2017. I was on a leave during that time.

@elsa have you played with RC before?

[RadiantCowbells]

Mala is my top townread aorn

[Elsa Jay]

My presence has already divided this crew asunder.

Yet they decide to go for Tora instead of me.

Humans are strange creatures.

P-edit: I played a different meta, with different circumstances, and NOBODY ever claimed d1 besides weird shit like jester (Not_Mafia) or generally trolling. You didnt make it obvious it was a troll.

Ive been playing in Open/Semi-Open setups, as well as Micro games. Very different from this. My few Normal games attest that I need to learn more about stuff like this.

Calling it scummy is just weird as heck though.

PP-Edit: not in any real capacity. He replaced a Mod in one of my games and may have been in a hyrda? Don't remember.

[Reasonably Rational]

i was mostly announcing my intent to sheep NSG if I end up townreading her.

I figured but I'm coming from the viewpoint on page 1 that everyone is arguing over.

Really? Pray tell, what is the value in you analyzing how that post appeared on page 1, while ignoring how you actually took it? Did you take it that way on page 1 yourself, when you first read it? Or was this a position you developed as the conversation about that post developed?

-Cerb

pedit: Mala says things that may be true, thus my question to RC about their experience with Elsa!