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Post Post #1000  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 pm

In post 997, Varsoon wrote:
In post 993, MariaR wrote:I can't say I would've caught you I might've between you or nos but eh.
Varsoon was just yeah lol.


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Post Post #1001  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:37 pm

I mean.
You wanted to keep roleblocking Gamma coz (he's totes not 1-shot) :P
Other than that I figured the millers were PRs and knew Dunn and Gamma were spent due to their claims so I RB'd Nos and Wisdom, then i thought one of MariaR or Moment was the town Alice so i RB'd there in adition to Nos.
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Post Post #1002  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:37 pm

I basically didnt think the town Alice would be a miller too so yeah.
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Post Post #1003  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:38 pm

Town really did shoot itself in the foot this game, though.
I spent the whole game just trying to PR fish and keep a low profile so I wouldn't catch a bullet.

Pfft, if ya had me pegged, ya should'a loaded your gun and let the bullets do the talking.

And hey, it was my smart idea to be less hubristic and trust you, too, Sakura :D

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Post Post #1004  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:38 pm

Should the massclaim have gone forward i'd have been caught most likely.
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Post Post #1005  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:40 pm

My thoughts on shooting moment over you were if moment was town we were losing the game regardless
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Post Post #1006  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:40 pm

Yeah I was sure there weren't any more desperados
Welp
Just goes to show the ideal way to have played this one would have probably been:
Run someone scummy up to L-1
Get a claim.
Shoot it.

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Post Post #1007  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:42 pm

Granted, I dont think filling the town with a bunch of desperados was a good idea.
I mean, when Dunn was like "I want a desperado to shoot someone" i was like "OH GOD PLS NO, I DONT WANT MORE CONFTOWNS"
On the other hand it seems to have encouraged reckless play.
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Post Post #1008  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:43 pm

Everyone was trying to hero shoot.
Ask yourself, what would Keyser Soze do?

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Post Post #1009  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:44 pm

On one hand, I worry this is a game that is 100% solved by an early mass-claim, but on the other, I wonder if scum could reasonably fake-claim and survive. We were hoping that town would suicide itself sorting in all the claimed millers.

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Post Post #1010  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:45 pm

I still dunno what I did to be townread.
Reacting to Nico's shot actually came naturally to me, maybe that's why.
Tho it's probably one of the reasons town lost.
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Post Post #1011  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:46 pm

What mostly happened is that town decided to be "Me, Myself and I" and so that's how they ended up just yoloshooting, you can see there was literally not a single lynch the entire game.
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Post Post #1012  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:47 pm

Not just selfish shots but selfish shots on 'good scum players' with the intent of being a hero instead of sorting the people who can actually be sorted
Ask yourself, what would Keyser Soze do?

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Post Post #1013  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:48 pm

Was there really never a lynch?

@Fakegod: What was your goal with this setup?
Did it play out how you envisioned?
What did you expect/didn't expect?

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Post Post #1014  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:48 pm

In post 1012, RadiantCowbells wrote:Not just selfish shots but selfish shots on 'good scum players' with the intent of being a hero instead of sorting the people who can actually be sorted


khehehehe this is why I never ate a bullet

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Post Post #1015  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:51 pm

I did make a fatal mistake and Wisdom caught it.
It is true that I wouldnt scumread Wisdom this game ever if I was town.
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Post Post #1016  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:52 pm

17p game 41 pages scum didn't have to do anything besides avoid antagonizing anyone in a way that they would potentially get desperadoed for
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Post Post #1017  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:53 pm

I think mass desperado setups give too much power to individual players and ruins the game unless town players show exceptional restraint.
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Post Post #1018  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:54 pm

Regardless.
Wtf was with Nico's shot, like just why.
Why did both UT and Moment dissapear (or rather Moment never appeared).
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Post Post #1019  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:54 pm

I was like super worried Moment would appear with a random guilty on me.
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Post Post #1020  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:59 pm

oof

i thought it was sakura and maria tbh

varsoon slipped under my radar tbh
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Post Post #1021  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:04 pm

That's the problem--all scum had to do was slip under radars. At least in most games they've gotta have some agency in getting those mislynches.

In post 1017, FakeGod wrote:I think mass desperado setups give too much power to individual players and ruins the game unless town players show exceptional restraint.


Same, though I'd extend this to giving town and scum any killing power beyond the traditional 1 lynch/1 kill. Every time I've tried to make a game that hinged around it (bloodborne, FFT), it did not work out in a way that was satisfying to the core principles of mafia. I'm now loathe even to include gated extra kills for scum or a vigilante for town because it's a ton of extra power and (potentially) swing that needs to be offset and I don't know that it buys the setup anything particularly interesting or worthwhile when it comes to decision making or rhetorical gameplay.

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Post Post #1022  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:06 pm

I think fucking with the fundamental process of lynching people ruins mafia and that extends to massive amounts of desperados / too many kpn / etc
Ask yourself, what would Keyser Soze do?

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Post Post #1023  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:07 pm

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Post Post #1024  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:07 pm

In post 0, FakeGod wrote:Nosferatu, who was Alice of Past, and Town Parity Cop, was endgamed.

Well then
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