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Post Post #1125  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:39 pm

Not sure about unfocused, but it doesn't appear to be sound reasoning. I don't see any disconnect between 204 and 297
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Post Post #1126  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:51 pm

In post 1086, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1021, Taly wrote:oh lol forgot mephisto was in this game again

...ive played with jeanne11... in 2015.

and ive played with nico one game this past year... but it doesnt count since she was mislynched early-game for doing the bare minimum to avoid being replaced


If Nico is town here, that looks good for Taly and vice-versa.

So even if Nico is scum - Taly has been hard against the Nico wagon because the flip doesn’t give us info

I’ve seen scum get lynched and people be against the wagon and sometimes the defender flips scum, sometimes town - so I’m making a mental note that talys issue with the wagon is specifically info gained, rather than “I don’t want to lynch Nico because i find ___ element of her play towny”

Idk what that means it just stood out

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Post Post #1127  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:57 pm

In post 1125, u r a person 2 wrote:Not sure about unfocused, but it doesn't appear to be sound reasoning. I don't see any disconnect between 204 and 297

I agree with this and can't actually see what makes him reach the conclusion that Alch is scum.

VOTE: Mewtaph

we can still powerlynch Nico before EOD.
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Post Post #1128  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:58 pm

In post 1126, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1086, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1021, Taly wrote:oh lol forgot mephisto was in this game again

...ive played with jeanne11... in 2015.

and ive played with nico one game this past year... but it doesnt count since she was mislynched early-game for doing the bare minimum to avoid being replaced


If Nico is town here, that looks good for Taly and vice-versa.

So even if Nico is scum - Taly has been hard against the Nico wagon because the flip doesn’t give us info

I’ve seen scum get lynched and people be against the wagon and sometimes the defender flips scum, sometimes town - so I’m making a mental note that talys issue with the wagon is specifically info gained, rather than “I don’t want to lynch Nico because i find ___ element of her play towny”

Idk what that means it just stood out

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This is a good take. You don't have any thoughts about whether Taly looks s/s with Nico, or like town flailing to defend a lurker wagon?
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Post Post #1129  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:00 pm

I would say at this point if we were going to policy lynch a lurk slot why Nico over Koki?

Those of you that played Overkill 2 may recall FL admitting either in PT or post game (can’t fully remember) he purposely acted as disengaged to move along to the later stages of the game

Arguably - that’s more Koki, as opposed to Nico simply not being here

So I’ll be keeping an eye on those pushing Nico


I’m gonna go read up on some slots that I haven’t really noticed up to now

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Post Post #1130  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:02 pm

if Kokichi just genuinely doesn't follow through on catching up he's obviously a fierce contender. I see nothing to townread from either of them but his catchup promise over just a naked vote is closer to playing in good faith than Nico's lurking/naked vote/complaining thing.
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Post Post #1131  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:06 pm

In post 1128, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 1126, ProFlavor wrote:
In post 1086, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1021, Taly wrote:oh lol forgot mephisto was in this game again

...ive played with jeanne11... in 2015.

and ive played with nico one game this past year... but it doesnt count since she was mislynched early-game for doing the bare minimum to avoid being replaced


If Nico is town here, that looks good for Taly and vice-versa.

So even if Nico is scum - Taly has been hard against the Nico wagon because the flip doesn’t give us info

I’ve seen scum get lynched and people be against the wagon and sometimes the defender flips scum, sometimes town - so I’m making a mental note that talys issue with the wagon is specifically info gained, rather than “I don’t want to lynch Nico because i find ___ element of her play towny”

Idk what that means it just stood out

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This is a good take. You don't have any thoughts about whether Taly looks s/s with Nico, or like town flailing to defend a lurker wagon?

I don’t think I’ve ever played with scum!Taly - would he be that open wolf if it was s/s - pretty outrageous!

If it’s town!taly / either!Nico - it’s meaningless - talys just right that Nico is basically a policy lynch and its NAI

If it’s not town!taly I can only see it being scum!taly / town!Nico - taly ends up in day 2 with subliminal credibility of not lynching Nico without actually saying town!Nico - just PL are bad guys

It’s subliminal credibility because you’d never re-read the thread and be like “taly identified Nico!town” but in VCA - taly wasn’t on a town lynch (which can feasibly go through) so you probably give him credibility in your mind as you reflect on VCA but can’t really recall things (I’m thinking like in day 3 onwards etc)


Haven’t decided which - leaning T/T on gut instinct

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Post Post #1132  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:06 pm

In post 1130, Shoshin the worst wrote:if Kokichi just genuinely doesn't follow through on catching up he's obviously a fierce contender. I see nothing to townread from either of them but his catchup promise over just a naked vote is closer to playing in good faith than Nico's lurking/naked vote/complaining thing.

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Post Post #1133  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:09 pm

Sup
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Post Post #1134  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:12 pm

Stop trying to pocket me, that’s whats up ;)

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Post Post #1135  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:13 pm

Prediction: when FL catches up and sees this post he should read Michael Scott’s Iso

The prediction is at this stage of the game he will call it “political” or at least agree a to why I said that haha

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Post Post #1136  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:28 pm

-_- or i could just not see the nico-scum alongside not seeing a point to PL with the amount of divison in the thread

but continue to place WIFOM on me with every single thing i say outside of my votes and wagons, im sure thatll get both of you places :roll:

and i do want to see Michael/Pint actually post some
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Post Post #1137  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:32 pm

STW, you never answered my question -_-

Why are you so content on lynching Nico if your vote there is pressure? Do you strongly scumread them?
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Post Post #1138  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:33 pm

What

If there is division in the thread it helps a PL

Tomorrow you can go “this person was for Nico but against Varsoon, this person was for Nico but with Varsoon” bla bla

If _everyone_ was like Nico PL go go go - it’s daft because you would get nothing

But why is division bad?!?!?

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Post Post #1139  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:34 pm

In post 1137, Taly wrote:STW, you never answered my question -_-

Why are you so content on lynching Nico if your vote there is pressure? Do you strongly scumread them?

Ermmm


Are you really asking someone to say “my pressure vote isn’t serious don’t worry”

Kinda defeats the point haha

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Post Post #1140  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:37 pm

In post 1127, Shoshin the worst wrote:we can still powerlynch Nico before EOD.

this is definitely something id associate with "pressure' voting :roll:

and division is bad because that gives scum leverage/ammunition to drive lynches?

why has your vote remained on UP2 since , proflavor?

ProFlavor wrote:Tomorrow you can go “this person was for Nico but against Varsoon, this person was for Nico but with Varsoon” bla bla


so... a PL is good off COMPLETE associatives and NOTHING based off the lynched person's play?

why are you defending the nico wagon if you dont scumread them? or, DO you scumread them? since you havent clarified that in your last several posts
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Post Post #1141  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:41 pm

honestly, anyone who keeps "OKing" a Nico wagon or even a Kokichi wagon at this point is just saying "im not going to do anything else but push for a PL until we get content out of this one player"
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Post Post #1142  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:42 pm

we almost have 5 days left, still. the stagnation in the thread is not helpful.
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Post Post #1143  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:44 pm

i feel like im the ONLY person shouting "NO" in this game and thats a huge-ass red flag.
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Post Post #1144  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:47 pm

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Post Post #1147  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:47 pm

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Post Post #1148  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:48 pm

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Post Post #1149  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:48 pm

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